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NFT: Pelicans vs. Knicks at MSG - 7:30 EST

GiantsUA : 1/9/2017 7:10 pm
Even the longest journey starts with a first step - let it start tonight! Go Knicks.
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If  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2017 10:21 pm : link
Rose blew off the game because he was upset about being benched...Jesus.
Wait. I don't understand.  
B in ALB : 1/9/2017 10:24 pm : link
The Melo/Rose Thanksgiving spectacle with LaLa at Anthony's crib in Manhattan was bullshit. I thought everything was all good? Kumbayfuckingya!
Hornacek apparently said he believes  
Aspano! : 1/9/2017 10:24 pm : link
Rose will be back with the team and he hopes Rose is alright with whatever he's going through, and it will become clear soon.

I'd guess it's something with his children, given that he was at the team shootaround. Good to see BBI is reasonable with these things though.
Lee said he was at shootaround and everything seemed fine  
nygiants16 : 1/9/2017 10:27 pm : link
none of the players have heard from him
Wouldn't the Knicks just say he's out for personal reasons?  
bceagle05 : 1/9/2017 10:28 pm : link
Even the MSG postgame guys are baffled. There are ways they could handle this to spare him the scrutiny here - they're choosing to keep it a total mystery.
He's been kidnapped by the Hot Tub Posse  
ghost718 : 1/9/2017 10:29 pm : link
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I apologize... wasn't aware his children are involve  
Mason : 1/9/2017 10:30 pm : link
but still strange that he didn't contact anyone to notify them he would be out. Hope for their safety and well being.
noah said he spoke to rose after game  
nygiants16 : 1/9/2017 10:30 pm : link
said hes ok, wont say anythijg else
RE: Wouldn't the Knicks just say he's out for personal reasons?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2017 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13318941 bceagle05 said:
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Even the MSG postgame guys are baffled. There are ways they could handle this to spare him the scrutiny here - they're choosing to keep it a total mystery.


If there was some kind of emergency, the team may not have known. It sounds like legitimately nobody knows.
RE: He's been kidnapped by the Hot Tub Posse  
Deej : 1/9/2017 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13318943 ghost718 said:
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racist
RE: noah said he spoke to rose after game  
Mason : 1/9/2017 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13318947 nygiants16 said:
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said hes ok, wont say anythijg else



???
Wow ...
RE: Hornacek apparently said he believes  
B in ALB : 1/9/2017 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13318934 Aspano! said:
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Rose will be back with the team and he hopes Rose is alright with whatever he's going through, and it will become clear soon.

I'd guess it's something with his children, given that he was at the team shootaround. Good to see BBI is reasonable with these things though.


Oh is that right? Then why didn't he say so? It's easy.

My kids, coach. We're having some issues. I need some time.

Instead. It's like, no one knows what's going on.

And you question people being reasonable.
if he was at shootaround  
nygiants16 : 1/9/2017 10:34 pm : link
that tells me dee is full of shit it had nothing to do with him talking to hornacek...

this sounds like an emergency that happened last minute
Just weird.  
Keith : 1/9/2017 10:34 pm : link
Hornacek doesn't seem concerned at all. I think this is rose being disgruntled and if so, it's pathetic.
This is weird.  
bceagle05 : 1/9/2017 10:35 pm : link
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It's Tommy Dee. Always assume he's full of shit.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2017 10:38 pm : link
That's his natural state of being.
Chasson Randle time  
DCOrange : 1/9/2017 10:39 pm : link
Oh wait..............
sounds like no one at game time.knew where he was  
nygiants16 : 1/9/2017 10:40 pm : link
le said at shootaround there was nothing wrong and everything seemed good..

also sounds like the players were legitimately worried about where he was
I'm not a huge  
Giantfootball025 : 1/9/2017 10:42 pm : link
NBA fan, just more the Knicks, has this ever happened before where a player just didn't show up to a game because he was upset?
Rose no shows and Melo quits  
DCOrange : 1/9/2017 10:42 pm : link
And there is no bottom in sight.
RE: I'm not a huge  
Mason : 1/9/2017 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13318983 Giantfootball025 said:
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NBA fan, just more the Knicks, has this ever happened before where a player just didn't show up to a game because he was upset?


Dennis Rodman did it with the Spurs and I think the Pistons.
I don't see  
Giantfootball025 : 1/9/2017 10:46 pm : link
how Rose ever puts on a NYK jersey ever again if he just decided to not show up.
Isola  
Deej : 1/9/2017 10:50 pm : link
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Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 7m7 minutes ago

There are strong indications that Derrick Rose returned to his hometown of Chicago.


Flying would explain the communications blackout
Isola saying  
bceagle05 : 1/9/2017 10:50 pm : link
"strong indications" that Rose went to Chicago.
If he went back to chicago  
nygiants16 : 1/9/2017 10:54 pm : link
maybe it is something with his kid?

meanwhile isola ripping phil for not meeting the media
Bizarre.  
arcarsenal : 1/9/2017 10:55 pm : link
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ohhh boy...as the famous philosopher Michael Ray Richardson once said:  
Stu11 : 1/9/2017 10:56 pm : link
"The Ship be Sinkin!"
WPIX is reporting that he is still missing and they are praying for  
Mason : 1/9/2017 11:00 pm : link
his safety. Claims the team still doesn't know where he is as their reporting at 10:50pm.
RE: WPIX is reporting that he is still missing and they are praying for  
Aspano! : 1/9/2017 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13319027 Mason said:
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his safety. Claims the team still doesn't know where he is as their reporting at 10:50pm.


Well then their reporting is shit.

https://twitter.com/NotoriousOHM/status/818662428451962882

Did they just neglect to mention this part?
Noah said he spoke to him after the game  
Keith : 1/9/2017 11:03 pm : link
and derrick was ok
How much is Hornacek regretting  
bceagle05 : 1/9/2017 11:04 pm : link
not taking Luke Walton's spot on the Golden State bench? Hang around that Dream Team, get a ring or two, and see if a good head coaching opportunity materializes in the near future.
Man only the dysfunctional Knicks can knock off the Giants bad loss  
Mason : 1/9/2017 11:04 pm : link
Sports shows are set for the remaining week. NYC sports radio is ready to go. Add in Melo getting tossed again. I already hear boat party jokes with Rose.
RE: RE: WPIX is reporting that he is still missing and they are praying for  
Mason : 1/9/2017 11:05 pm : link
In comment 13319032 Aspano! said:
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In comment 13319027 Mason said:


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his safety. Claims the team still doesn't know where he is as their reporting at 10:50pm.



Well then their reporting is shit.

https://twitter.com/NotoriousOHM/status/818662428451962882

Did they just neglect to mention this part?


Yeah, I thought it was strange because they began their newscast reporting he was missing and gave an update at 10:50pm. I guess their sources aren't in touch with Noah though.
This  
PhilSimms15 : 1/9/2017 11:21 pm : link
Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne2m2 minutes ago
According to sources Rose told the team he had a family situation.
He told the team? Huh. Who did he tell?  
B in ALB : 1/9/2017 11:33 pm : link
The keyboard player on JD and the Straight Shot?
RE: He told the team? Huh. Who did he tell?  
Jon in NYC : 1/9/2017 11:33 pm : link
In comment 13319098 B in ALB said:
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The keyboard player on JD and the Straight Shot?


Robert Randolph.
"Monday night Knicks,  
B in ALB : 1/9/2017 11:35 pm : link
Rose ain't gonna beeeeee thereeee!"
Mannix  
DanMetroMan : 1/9/2017 11:45 pm : link
says multiple teammates have received word he's fine
What a disaster  
Sgrcts : 1/10/2017 12:33 am : link
I don't even see a single trade scenario where Melo waives his NTC and a contending team wants him/has anything to give up. Rose has zero trade value. Noah has zero trade value. Phil is a disgrace.
Phil got us Porzingis  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/10/2017 12:45 am : link
and regardless of this dumpster fire, we actually have all of our picks for the first time in 700 years. (I don't really give a shit where Derrick Rose is. Anything that whittles down the possibility of him getting a long term contract to 0% is a-ok in my book.)


Lauri Markkanen... come on down.
RE: What a disaster  
giantsfan44ab : 1/10/2017 12:49 am : link
In comment 13319230 Sgrcts said:
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I don't even see a single trade scenario where Melo waives his NTC and a contending team wants him/has anything to give up. Rose has zero trade value. Noah has zero trade value. Phil is a disgrace.


Wouldn't say 0 trade value. If we could get Dejountae Murray or kyle Anderson from the Spurs I'd do it. Spurs don't make deals like that though.
RE: RE: What a disaster  
Sgrcts : 1/10/2017 12:52 am : link
In comment 13319268 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13319230 Sgrcts said:


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I don't even see a single trade scenario where Melo waives his NTC and a contending team wants him/has anything to give up. Rose has zero trade value. Noah has zero trade value. Phil is a disgrace.



Wouldn't say 0 trade value. If we could get Dejountae Murray or kyle Anderson from the Spurs I'd do it. Spurs don't make deals like that though.



Spurs would have to give up Pau or LMA for a Melo deal, who wouldn't have a position to play because the Spurs have Kawhi Leonard. LMA is a superior player to Melo, and Pau is their starting 5. No shot at a Melo to the Spurs deal, unless Melo somehow decided he was ok playing the 4 and LMA the 5.
oh sorry  
Sgrcts : 1/10/2017 12:53 am : link
you meant for Rose? Or Noah? Again, similar where to make salaries work they'd either have to gut their team or include a starter like Pau or LMA. I can't think of a less Spurs player then Derrick Rose either.
This team is gross.  
bceagle05 : 1/10/2017 1:01 am : link
Didn't take long for upbeat guys like Hornacek, Noah, Lee and Jennings to become miserable. We should try to tank our way into the top 10 this season. It's not too late.
RE: oh sorry  
giantsfan44ab : 1/10/2017 1:11 am : link
In comment 13319281 Sgrcts said:
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you meant for Rose? Or Noah? Again, similar where to make salaries work they'd either have to gut their team or include a starter like Pau or LMA. I can't think of a less Spurs player then Derrick Rose either.


Yeah Rose doesn't really fit their model but on a pure talent level he's an upgrade over Parker at this point.

In any case it'd work better if Parker and ginobili both retire before next season as they'd have like $20M more in salary.
Jennings would fit in  
giantsfan44ab : 1/10/2017 1:14 am : link
SA. They might be able to get more for him because his salary is easier to take and it'd be much cheaper to sign him long term.

KOQ is at his peak trade value too. Would 100% shop him. You get rid of him and Rose or Jennings and you're looking at a top 10 selection.
LOL Knicks.  
Heisenberg : 1/10/2017 7:35 am : link
This is the most Knicks thing to happen in a long time.
My eyes hurt from watching most of that game:  
GiantsUA : 1/10/2017 7:48 am : link
Question - why does the entire defense collapse to the middle of the court every time someone drives, I understand "help" defense, but not the entire team going into the paint and leaving 2-3 players wide open behind the 3 point line - please explain?
RE: oh sorry  
dep026 : 1/10/2017 8:48 am : link
In comment 13319281 Sgrcts said:
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you meant for Rose? Or Noah? Again, similar where to make salaries work they'd either have to gut their team or include a starter like Pau or LMA. I can't think of a less Spurs player then Derrick Rose either.


Rose to Cleveland makes a ton of sense. Throw him on the 2nd unit. Put him on the court with Love, Frye, and Korver. Shooters all over the place and he will have the lane to drive.
Well on the bright side  
Carl in CT : 1/10/2017 9:28 am : link
Those calling for a complete rebuild will get their wish. Phil kept all picks. Those wanting us to acquire Rose and el might turn into some assets. I didn't believe and still don't that Grant and Robin were going to be part of the solution. I won't even mention the throw in OLD PG. Break it down to build it up!
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