Yeah, I know, they need a lot of things. But a seriously intimidating RB would go a long way to helping solve what ails this offense. What makes LSU's Fournette a bad ass? Watch the video.
How about a 6'1" 236lb RB who can flat out FLY! Who has excellent balance, vision and loves to run over tacklers?
There are plenty of good RB's who are quick but lack long speed. Not Fournette, he just keeps going faster!
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All 3 teams in the NFC East will be better next year.
In order for the Giants to duplicate or improve upon this years' results, they are going to need to get this Oline to function much better.
They need 2 new starters, and move Flowers to either RG or RT before they worry about additional RBs.
Having said that, me being OK with it doesn't change reality, which is that this place will literally explode in anger.
I doubt it'll happen though, because I doubt we'll see BPA at RB at 23, the better ones will be long gone by that point.
Good point! Teams never draft RB's in the first round.
Having said that, me being OK with it doesn't change reality, which is that this place will literally explode in anger.
I doubt it'll happen though, because I doubt we'll see BPA at RB at 23, the better ones will be long gone by that point.
Some people think this year will be a good year for RB's and RB's tend not to go as high relative to their talent as some other positions. I'm not suggesting Fournette will still be available when the Giants pick in the 2nd, but some pretty good RB's can usually be had in the 2nd and 3rd, particularly when there's a decent number. Two that come to mind are Tiki and Le'Veon Bell.
Bottom line is, you never know when a RB is going to get taken.
Actually 2-3 but gotta start at 1 first.
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and got two good OG's. (Pugh and Flowers.)
I keep reading this. Serious question: What evidence is there that Flowers is, or will be, a good guard? He hasn't played there in the pros. Why is the move inside a given?
Of course it isn't a given, no one can predict the future. But he's got a very good skill set for an OG, and it's common for OL's who can't hack it at OT to move inside. So neither is it far fetched to suspect that is what will happen as he's clearly struggled all season at LT.
We'll see, but he looks like a good guard to me.
Are you kidding? The dude runs away from DBs.
We need to replace Jerry Reese with George Young to assure us that we only draft LARGE bodies first.
I think the proper determination for Mr. Young is "still dead."
Not me.
He's not a Ron Dayne? Maybe I'm wrong but he seems to run through huge holes which won't be there in the NFL, especially our line.
He's not a Ron Dayne? Maybe I'm wrong but he seems to run through huge holes which won't be there in the NFL, especially our line.
I'd need to see them in the same room to be absolutely sure, but that's about it. Not worth our first pick - again.
We have drafted three guys.....
Pugh? Started as RT....good first season, poor second season, solid, nothing more at LG.....
Richburg? Played out of position first season, had a good second season, but this year didn't look like the same player as the previous season...he looks terrible as a run blocker, and is average at best as a pass blocker.....
Flowers? how in the world have two different OL coaches, not corrected this guys's technique? I have NEVER seen this guy stick a pass rusher dead in his tracks...from the snap of the ball this guy is back pedaling....and then there are mental issues...how many times has he put this team in a hole with penalties? He obviously, is not a LT....
So how has Reese done with the OL over the last 5 seasons? How about an F?
Obviously, drafting has not worked....and his free agent record with OLmen is nothing to hang your hat on....
We went into this season with this Ol, no blocking TE, and no FB.....is it any wonder Eli had no time? Is it any wonder this OL could not convert third and one's?
A RB is the answer, only if he is the second coming of Earl Campbell...
Draft or sign another OL or two, but don't pass on a great RB with the flawed thinking that they won't be able to run behind this line.
Draft or sign another OL or two, but don't pass on a great RB with the flawed thinking that they won't be able to run behind this line.
Agree with this. I think getting an RB and TE with toughness would bring this offense a long way even with the same O-line. My view would be to try to get O-line help in FA and draft TE and RB. This is a good draft for TEs; we have to get one in first three rounds.
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Agree with this. I think getting an RB and TE with toughness would bring this offense a long way even with the same O-line.
But as odd as it is to say about a rock-em, sock-em RB, I think he needs to toughen up a bit to play in the NFL. A little too tentative at times.
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But as odd as it is to say about a rock-em, sock-em RB, I think he needs to toughen up a bit to play in the NFL. A little too tentative at times. Video - ( New Window )
Don't get too attached he's going top 5.
He appears to be an RB in watching him the last 2 years that needs a head of steam to fire through the line and then get his yardage. He's a single back or out of the power-I
Are you going to be an offense running shotgun draws and trap plays for him instead? He wasn't doing that as LSU. Now you are going to change his running style in the pros?
Are the Giants going to cut back on their shotgun usage? Seems unlikely. So how does this work?
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It's always more informative to watch plays over an entire game. Two quick things about Fournette; first is that he becomes much more effective as the game goes on. Secondly, he looks to have really nice hands! And that's very encouraging!
But as odd as it is to say about a rock-em, sock-em RB, I think he needs to toughen up a bit to play in the NFL. A little too tentative at times. Video - ( New Window )
Don't get too attached he's going top 5.
I repeat, nobody knows where these guys will go. There are years when a team falls in love with a RB with his abilities and production and grab one high. There are other years when the same RB slides far further than those who know the future with certainty ;-) predict, and they even fall out of the first, and sometimes second round. If, as it now looks, there will be a fair number of good RB's, that argues for RB's going later than they otherwise might.
I like Fournette, but I also see holes in his game. I don't see him likely selected among the top 5, though he might be, I do see a very real possibility he could slide down to the end of the first, or even, top of the second.
He appears to be an RB in watching him the last 2 years that needs a head of steam to fire through the line and then get his yardage. He's a single back or out of the power-I
Are you going to be an offense running shotgun draws and trap plays for him instead? He wasn't doing that as LSU. Now you are going to change his running style in the pros?
Are the Giants going to cut back on their shotgun usage? Seems unlikely. So how does this work?
It's hard to know what he'll be asked to do as a pro. Rarely are players drafted into a system that's identical to what they did in school. He's big, fast (As in fast enough to stretch the edge.) has good vision and fair athleticism. As I said, he needs to toughen up at the P.O.A. and be more decisive. And better at picking up blitzes.
But since he's going top 5 ;-), I guess some clubs think he can play anywhere!
I agree that there will also be effective RB's later in the draft. If Conner is all the way back from his injury, and well, he could be a monster! Like Perine too.
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It's always more informative to watch plays over an entire game. Two quick things about Fournette; first is that he becomes much more effective as the game goes on. Secondly, he looks to have really nice hands! And that's very encouraging!
But as odd as it is to say about a rock-em, sock-em RB, I think he needs to toughen up a bit to play in the NFL. A little too tentative at times. Video - ( New Window )
Don't get too attached he's going top 5.
I repeat, nobody knows where these guys will go. There are years when a team falls in love with a RB with his abilities and production and grab one high. There are other years when the same RB slides far further than those who know the future with certainty ;-) predict, and they even fall out of the first, and sometimes second round. If, as it now looks, there will be a fair number of good RB's, that argues for RB's going later than they otherwise might.
I like Fournette, but I also see holes in his game. I don't see him likely selected among the top 5, though he might be, I do see a very real possibility he could slide down to the end of the first, or even, top of the second.
Then you are out of your mind. This is the best RB prospect to come out of college since Adrian Peterson. He is either the first or second best prospect in the draft (Garrett being the other). So yeah, a RB may not go second but this guy and Cook are levels ahead of what Zeke was coming out of college, sohe will be gone in the top 5-6 picks. You can bank on that.