1. Assuming multiple reports on the topic Derrick Rose MUST be suspended. I don't care what the family issue was. There is absolutely no excuse for not contacting/not being receptive to contact from the Knicks. You tell your agent/friend to speak to them on your behalf. The Knicks reportedly are "livid".
2. Things were already going downhill with Rose/Hornacek. Even if unrelated I think it's more likely than not this will help the Knicks make their Rose decision going forward.
"Knicks officials didn’t hear from Rose that he was OK until after an embarrassing loss to New Orleans, a confirmation that sources said began the next conversation within the organization: What do they do with Rose now?
In the aftermath of going AWOL at The Garden, Knicks officials need to further determine Rose’s passion to return to the team and continue playing.
Rose has put into peril his short-term role – with the possibility of a suspension, sources said – and the longer-term chances to land a lucrative contract extension with the Knicks in July, league sources told The Vertical.
Rose, the 2011 NBA Most Valuable Player and a three-time All-Star, has suffered through several serious injuries and has diminished as an elite point guard in the league. He’s had an up-and-down season for the Knicks, who have lost eight of nine games and dropped to 17-21."
Link - (
New Window )
go to melo and say look its over, we tried it did not work, we will work with you on a trade and we will find a team that you are willing to play for..
trade oquinn while he still has some value..
lance thomas there is no trade out there most likely..
i would start kuz and willy, noah can come off the bench, he is here for the forseeable future, so he can be the vet in the locker room
go to melo and say look its over, we tried it did not work, we will work with you on a trade and we will find a team that you are willing to play for..
trade oquinn while he still has some value..
lance thomas there is no trade out there most likely..
Wow. I can't believe I'm reading this But I'm glad I am
i would start kuz and willy, noah can come off the bench, he is here for the forseeable future, so he can be the vet in the locker room
Strange situation for strange team.
Uninspired group. Jennings looked like he had a migraine.
you going to say that if something happened to his kid?
Quote:
.
you going to say that if something happened to his kid?
He took the time to call his rep to have them call the Knicks. Couldn't he have contacted the Knicks in less time himself? Or shit, even sent a text message quickly to someone on the team just to let them know what was up?
i just dont know how can anyone attack someone personally they do not even know, attack his game dont attack him personally
Quote:
In comment 13319402 Enzo said:
Quote:
.
you going to say that if something happened to his kid?
He took the time to call his rep to have them call the Knicks. Couldn't he have contacted the Knicks in less time himself? Or shit, even sent a text message quickly to someone on the team just to let them know what was up?
if something happened to your kid and you are in a completely different state you thinking about your employer and figuring out the quickest way to get to your kid?
Now, if Rose was busy landing a pilotless 747 after everyone got food poisoning, maybe you have a point - but that's how ridiculously bad the scenarios have to be before it justifies his silence.
like i said i am waiting to hear what happened then i will freak out..
if it was as simple as his kid was sick and he just simply disappeared then i will kill him like everyone else..
if ot is something really bad then i will understand a little bit more
Rose is a weird guy who ends up in bad situations so he does not get any benefit of the doubt.
like i said i am waiting to hear what happened, then freak out..
fair enough?
if something happened to your kid and you are in a completely different state you thinking about your employer and figuring out the quickest way to get to your kid?
Umm, yes, yes I would. Are you telling me if you were away, and something happened to your child, you wouldn't contact your employer if you were due in work that day? I'm not saying it would be your top priority, but it would be up the list.
Good to know that he was upset about playing time after what was this team's only win since Christmas. Way to be a team guy...
Link - ( New Window )
But Melo is still there!
At some point if the Knicks want Porz to grow, they have to bench Melo for games at a time until he asks for a trade. He is a cancer now. I am sure the ejection last night was to fuel some fire and get the team going, right? More like, he had enough and quit on his teammates.
Quote:
In comment 13319409 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 13319402 Enzo said:
Quote:
.
you going to say that if something happened to his kid?
He took the time to call his rep to have them call the Knicks. Couldn't he have contacted the Knicks in less time himself? Or shit, even sent a text message quickly to someone on the team just to let them know what was up?
if something happened to your kid and you are in a completely different state you thinking about your employer and figuring out the quickest way to get to your kid?
in this particular case, the employer in question has access to helicopters, private planes and nearly unlimited resources - so maybe that should have been his FIRST phone call?
Quote:
hopefully this means there's no chance of this guy coming back.
Melo has been a me first and selfish player since he's gotten into the league.
But Melo is still there!
At some point if the Knicks want Porz to grow, they have to bench Melo for games at a time until he asks for a trade. He is a cancer now. I am sure the ejection last night was to fuel some fire and get the team going, right? More like, he had enough and quit on his teammates.
i just dont know how can anyone attack someone personally they do not even know, attack his game dont attack him personally
WTF are you talking about? He's a lazy player, he's a selfish player, and a he's a dumb player. None of that is a personal attack.
I can see him thriving in that role.
And the problem with that is that Rose has always surrounded himself with the wrong people, aka his brother Reggie, who make the absolute worst decisions for him. But he only goes with the people he trusts and is not an intelligent enough to make the right decision. I saw it in Chicago now you are seeing it now.
People calling him dumb and lazy are really pathetic people.
And the problem with that is that Rose has always surrounded himself with the wrong people, aka his brother Reggie, who make the absolute worst decisions for him. But he only goes with the people he trusts and is not an intelligent enough to make the right decision. I saw it in Chicago now you are seeing it now.
People calling him dumb and lazy are really pathetic people.
Didn't you just call him dumb?
Quote:
the stuff about his SATs and never going to class at Memphis is probably as legit as can be. He would be an itinerant student in my school. It wouldnt shock me if he was in the lower 5% in the NBA when it comes to IQ.
And the problem with that is that Rose has always surrounded himself with the wrong people, aka his brother Reggie, who make the absolute worst decisions for him. But he only goes with the people he trusts and is not an intelligent enough to make the right decision. I saw it in Chicago now you are seeing it now.
People calling him dumb and lazy are really pathetic people.
Didn't you just call him dumb?
Call an itinerant student dumb and see the aftermath you get in school today.
Call an itinerant student dumb and see the aftermath you get in school today.
Fair point, but judging that a guy might be the in the lowest 5% in IQ in the NBA, and then castigating posters for calling him dumb is a little much, no?
Quote:
Call an itinerant student dumb and see the aftermath you get in school today.
Fair point, but judging that a guy might be the in the lowest 5% in IQ in the NBA, and then castigating posters for calling him dumb is a little much, no?
I wasnt trying to insult him by saying it wouldnt shock me about his IQ if it was, he just shows a lot of signs/symptoms of someone with a low IQ. It's still insulting to call someone dumb not knowing all the circumstances.
Regardless, the point still remains that his decisions have a lot to be desired and I dont think he gets good outside advice.
And he has made over 100 million in his career - so what does that make us? haha
1. Rose and Hornacek had been clashing in recent weeks (we had heard this before but he is confirming)
2. (more importantly) he's reporting as of this morning the Knicks still had "limited" contact with Rose regarding his absence so the "sick kid" excuse really goes out the window (even if he uses it). He's AWOL at 7 and "early morning" Tuesday he still can't give them a proper explanation/communication?
they have their first round picks going forward. Phil has traded some second rounders but has also acquired a few.
The Knicks no longer owe any 1sts. They owe 2017 2nd, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 seconds and are owed 2 2017 2nds and 2 in 2019.
The good news for Knicks fans is that Rose couldn't even act well for a full season. The Knicks have seen his true colors and won't make the catastrophic mistake of giving this guy a huge extension. IMO they should try to suspend him without pay for a while if they can under the CBA.
2017
Own first, Bulls 2nd, Rockets 2nd (minus their own 2nd)
2018
Own first, no second
2019
Own first, 2 seconds, minus their own second (so "even")
2020
Own first, no second
2021
Own first, no second
i just dont know how can anyone attack someone personally they do not even know, attack his game dont attack him personally
Sorry man. I side with everyone else on this. His people, agent, whomever could've gotten word to the Knicks while this was happening. He's completely wrong here.