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WR Coach Adam Henry from LSU- did he help?

FranknWeezer : 1/11/2017 7:35 am
Many of us speculated he was brought in bc of his history and relationship with Odell. Maybe help keep his emotions in check, reduce the extracurricular antics and foster his maturity as a player on and off the field. Also, of course to make him a more productive WR, not to mention bringing along the other guys. So how did he do in his first year, and is he worth bringing back next year?

Positives:
The emergence of T. King late in season
Odell deadly on slants
Odell handled himself well with Norman
Shepard solid rookie year

Negatives:
Harris stagnant and underutilized
Roger Lewis fell off; undependable
Cruz didn't make much of a difference
Odell extracurricular antics all over the place

What else?
I think he's been fine......  
Simms11 : 1/11/2017 9:07 am : link
The WRs, for the most part, have been fairly good this year. There were some drops that need to be addressed, but I think route running has been good. They do need to get much better at blocking however. The offense needs the WRs to help blocking, as well. I don't think he's a problem. Gilbride Jr and Cignetti on the other hand haven't been all that impressive in correcting deficiencies. I'll give Solari a pass this year, only because he's a well-respected Oline coach.
RE: I think he's been fine......  
Racer : 1/11/2017 9:15 am : link
In comment 13320991 Simms11 said:
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...I'll give Solari a pass this year, only because he's a well-respected Oline coach.


Reminds me that Retrojint called him an asshole but wouldn't share where that comes from.
This is the first coach I want fired  
LCtheINTMachine : 1/11/2017 11:13 am : link
He was hired to babysit ODB and it flat-out didn't work. And the WRs were just not up to par as a group.

We tried giving these guys a lot of rope and we need a new voice there. I have been reading Sanjay Lal and how WRS develop under him. Give that guy a shot.
Not Henry's fault they run 11 formation 95% of the time  
David B. : 1/11/2017 1:24 pm : link
EVERY opponent schemed to keep OBJ from beating them deep, and the Giants basically LET defenses dictate that to them.

That ain't on Adam Henry. That's on McAdoo and Sullivan. And I can't figure out what Sullivan does to earn his money.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 1/11/2017 1:42 pm : link
1) Harris? He was never here to contribute as a WR. He filled in admirably last year, but had as many warts as positives. He isn't a regular, rotational WR. At best, he seemed about 5th on the depth chart. What kind of contribution were you looking for from him?

2) Henry doesn't get any credit, in my opinion, for the production of OBJ or Shepard. OBJ is considered by everyone, at worst, a top 5 WR in the league. Shepard came in billed as ready to play in the NFL and he was.

3) Outside of those two, what great contributions did we have at WR? There were terrible drops by just about everyone and I think we were either the worst or one of the 3 worst in terms of drops as a team.

4) I agree with the poster saying he was brought in to babysit OBJ. It had its ups and downs. But, I want a position coach who will actually get more out of his unit. for WRs, I would expect better routes, better technique, less drops, fighting to come back to the ball, etc. These are all areas of weakness for us, so he certainly didn't improve on anything.

5) DavidB - I agree. what is Sullivan's real role on this team?
We didn't have much talent outside of OBJ and SS  
David in LA : 1/11/2017 1:48 pm : link
I'm hopeful about King.
Roger Lewis became a key special teamer as a rookie udfa  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2017 2:55 pm : link
But that may be more a credit to Quinn than Henry. And Tavares King had some contributions as well. Not sure how to quantify Adam Henry's year. I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't get credit for preparing sterling Shepard. What reason do we have to claim that? Making the jump from college to pros involves coaching.
Based on what?  
Ron Johnson 30 : 1/11/2017 3:05 pm : link
The NY Post?

"Odell extracurricular antics all over the place"
I'd give Henry a B-.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/11/2017 5:00 pm : link
The rookies Shepard and Lewis are about where you would expect them to be, based on their advance billing. King was a practice squad/street guy, who at 26 suddenly started making big plays at the end of the season. Cruz is done physically, but he made 16 of 17 starts and did as much as his ravaged body would permit. Harris is what he is: a special-teams player and third-string slot receiver. The second-through-fifth receivers on the 2016 Giants were a pretty shabby group. Henry should have more to work with in 2017, and Shepard, King, Lewis, Powe and Norwood will be back with a year in the system under their belts.

That leaves Beckham. In the long run, the disaster in Green Bay might turn out to be the best thing for him. He has six months to ponder the humiliation of looking like crap on the biggest stage. Plus, this is the year he starts playing for his big second contract - which will be a record breaker if things go well. I'll judge Henry's collaboration with OBJ more on 2017 than 2016.
RE: Based on what?  
FranknWeezer : 1/11/2017 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13321713 Ron Johnson 30 said:
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The NY Post?

"Odell extracurricular antics all over the place"


Are you serious, Clark? The NYG beat writers were just detailing the last 2 days how he had an incident/issue off the field in like 5 out of 6 of our losses down the home stretch. Do you study your team much or just divebomb threads for no good reason?
I love how anyone  
Old Dirty Beckham : 1/11/2017 5:50 pm : link
actually thinks they know if the position coach (save maybe QB coach) is doing a good job or not.

We have no clue.
RE: RE: Based on what?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2017 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13321924 FranknWeezer said:
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In comment 13321713 Ron Johnson 30 said:


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The NY Post?

"Odell extracurricular antics all over the place"



Are you serious, Clark? The NYG beat writers were just detailing the last 2 days how he had an incident/issue off the field in like 5 out of 6 of our losses down the home stretch. Do you study your team much or just divebomb threads for no good reason?


Being upset about a loss does not qualify as an "incident". Anybody who cares that he punched a drywall board or was emotional after the eagles loss is a lunatic.
RE: RE: RE: Based on what?  
mdc1 : 1/12/2017 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13321960 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13321924 FranknWeezer said:


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In comment 13321713 Ron Johnson 30 said:


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The NY Post?

"Odell extracurricular antics all over the place"



Are you serious, Clark? The NYG beat writers were just detailing the last 2 days how he had an incident/issue off the field in like 5 out of 6 of our losses down the home stretch. Do you study your team much or just divebomb threads for no good reason?



Being upset about a loss does not qualify as an "incident". Anybody who cares that he punched a drywall board or was emotional after the eagles loss is a lunatic.


Would it be an incident if he visited your house, got upset and punched a hole in your wall? I would say that the Packers organization and league do not like that, nor did McAdoo in his statements. The kid needs to address his anger management issues and seek help improving his emotional intelligence. Giants probably need to test for that. Most employers do now to sort out the "postal and linear" types that affect others directly or indirectly.
Him punching a hole in the wall is unfortunate  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2017 1:14 pm : link
And not acceptable, but the response needs to be in proportion. It's not a license to make him a ward of the state and mandate a psych eval. People need to calm the hell down. Like you've never seen a baseball player beat on a Gatorade cooler or take a bat into the clubhouse.

I think the real question is  
fame56 : 1/12/2017 1:56 pm : link
did he punch the wall because we lost the game or did he do it because HE played a bad game?

doesn't really matter, I guess..thought he did a nice job this year not reacting to opponents bs during the game, big improvement

still needs to take more steps forward, maturity wise in '17 and beyond

interesting comments from Giants management on the issue..you get the feeling that there may be a ceiling on what the team will put up with, superstar or not

the only player I can remember that was totally above reproach was LT, and, any team would have done that...this aint LT were talkin about here
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