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Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:23 pm
Tough way to go out - right in the ball game until 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
He did cite the "fumble that was blown dead"  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:24 pm : link
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Francesa talking about 194-7 advanatge  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:25 pm : link
were you leery about only being up 6-0.

MC: confident but we let some opps slip but I was confident we could move. Eli was really spinning it.
At Half regarding Hail Mary  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:27 pm : link
We talked about handling business - lose lingering affect of Hail Mary. Getting the big stop and hitting the post.

What happened after? Why did they break badly for the D?

It was only one series - still moving the ball, we didn't play good team football - the Rainey play, sack fumble. Don't give Rogers oppty to cash in.
This time of year, handful of plays make the difference  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:28 pm : link
10 plays had a huge factor. The Montgomery nonfumble brought up again.
Will the core build off this experience  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:29 pm : link
As coaches, we can't expect to have the same performance carry over - this needs to be a driving force and go through the details and get better.
Odell time - Beckham behavior before and after  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:31 pm : link
The Miami trip didn't have anything to do with it - great week of prep. Pressed a little bit, routes were good, speed was good.

Odell feels like he let a lot of people down. Post-game, he has to act appropriately and not damage other people's property
Why did the offense never come together?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:31 pm : link
We're looking at every from coaching and teaching to personnel.
Thanks Bobby  
njm : 1/11/2017 1:32 pm : link
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"Never say never"  
Pete in MD : 1/11/2017 1:33 pm : link
about moving OLineman around (Mike asked about Flowers specifically.)
Flowers talk - position change?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:34 pm : link
We got to work and get the fundamentals better, getting arms in and tight. But generic answer overall.

Defense -- we played championship level defense at times, and Landon was a big part. We hit the jackpot in terms of character guys who all got along together. Most encouraging is that we all hold each other accountable and root for each other in a close locker room.
he's handling himself very well.  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2017 1:35 pm : link
I think he's established that he can handle the job, that it's not too big for him.
as first year HC what did you learn.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:36 pm : link
Stay in the moment - you get spread thin, but you have to be all in on the task at hand. Don't look too far ahead or behind.

There are some things that you don't expect that do come across your desk, but the integrity of the organization was a great help. Accountability of players, good people in the organization. Still not where we want to be.
RE: Flowers talk - position change?  
NYGmen58 : 1/11/2017 1:37 pm : link
In comment 13321555 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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We got to work and get the fundamentals better, getting arms in and tight. But generic answer overall.

Defense -- we played championship level defense at times, and Landon was a big part. We hit the jackpot in terms of character guys who all got along together. Most encouraging is that we all hold each other accountable and root for each other in a close locker room.


Translation: Keep this defense together and get him some new guys to work with on offense.
Coaching staff intact?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:37 pm : link
A lot of great coaches here - obviously both players and coaches will have oppty to move.

Eli's year - Looking at the overall scheme gives us most of the insight. He was playing better football toward the end of the season.
Eli's successor - when do you prioritize?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:39 pm : link
You evaluate every position, but you can't chase that position. But never say never.
RE: as first year HC what did you learn.  
Pete in MD : 1/11/2017 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13321559 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Stay in the moment - you get spread thin, but you have to be all in on the task at hand. Don't look too far ahead or behind.

There are some things that you don't expect that do come across your desk, but the integrity of the organization was a great help. Accountability of players, good people in the organization. Still not where we want to be.

I think he' referring to the Josh Brown situation in the second paragraph. I'm surprised Mike didn't press him on it. I guess it's old news now.
Special teams  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:40 pm : link
coverage teams were good, punt in particular. Our return game leaves much to be desired.
Young players  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:42 pm : link
Feel good about rookie class - guys who like football. But it doesn't mean their spots are secure, be ready to handle your business.
Clean slate for the next year  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:44 pm : link
Need competition and want to be able to make tough choices on the final roster.

Already ready for the offseason calendar and doing the evaluations to get ready for July 2017.
No truth to the plane rumor  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:44 pm : link
ends the interview.
I think McAdoo called it bullshit  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:45 pm : link
and they used the delay.
RE: RE: Flowers talk - position change?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13321562 NYGmen58 said:
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In comment 13321555 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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We got to work and get the fundamentals better, getting arms in and tight. But generic answer overall.

Defense -- we played championship level defense at times, and Landon was a big part. We hit the jackpot in terms of character guys who all got along together. Most encouraging is that we all hold each other accountable and root for each other in a close locker room.



Translation: Keep this defense together and get him some new guys to work with on offense.


the question was about Flowers and I'm pretty certain he was saying that Flowers has to get his technique together specifically.
RE: Young players  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13321573 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Feel good about rookie class - guys who like football. But it doesn't mean their spots are secure, be ready to handle your business.


I found this to be a very interesting comment. He specifically said guys who are "not just about the money or the off field stuff".

Year 1 a rookie HC needs to establish himself. Mission accomplished. Year 2 he puts more of his personal stamp because he can. My guess: Everyone better be on notice that 2017 is all business, no fucking around. Everybody had better behave themselves.
Two years, two training camps, 33 starts and  
Thatís Gold, Jerry : 1/11/2017 1:48 pm : link
Flowers' technique is still bad. That says you either have bad coaching, which I do not believe, or you have a mental midget for a player.

I choose the latter.
RE: he's handling himself very well.  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/11/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13321557 Victor in CT said:
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I think he's established that he can handle the job, that it's not too big for him.

His suit, on the other hand...
BHE,  
CT Charlie : 1/11/2017 1:52 pm : link
Thank you immensely -- you should get a BBI public service award for this. Thankfully, McAdoo seems to be keeping things in perspective.

Still, it must be killing him. How many times can you go to Lambeau for a playoff game, with an excellent chance to be up 14-0?
good stuff, thanks BHE  
ColHowPepper : 1/11/2017 2:00 pm : link
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RE: RE: he's handling himself very well.  
Post Time : 1/11/2017 2:03 pm : link
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His suit, on the other hand...


And if he would just shave that mustache, lose 30 pounds, and not let his wife cut his hair anymore, he will look like a real head coach...
RE: Two years, two training camps, 33 starts and  
Giants2012 : 1/11/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13321587 Thatís Gold, Jerry said:
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Flowers' technique is still bad. That says you either have bad coaching, which I do not believe, or you have a mental midget for a player.

I choose the latter.


or he doesn't have the feet or feel for the LT position. Brandon Scherff was put at LT in Skins camp and taken off.
The couple of things that stood out  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 2:14 pm : link
The Montgomery fumble was mentioned multiple times - obviously McAdoo pissed Hochuli called it so it couldn't be reviewed.

We will see some changes in the return games next year - don't know if that means Quinn as coach goes as well.

The plane is officially a dead story - McAdoo on record saying no truth. Obviously Francesa also teed this up to contrast the morning show, where Carton has insisted there was validity to it even after Carl Banks told him there wasn't.
RE: Two years, two training camps, 33 starts and  
Old Dirty Beckham : 1/11/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13321587 Thatís Gold, Jerry said:
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Flowers' technique is still bad. That says you either have bad coaching, which I do not believe, or you have a mental midget for a player.

I choose the latter.


Funny because people sided with Flowers over Solari.
Nothing like  
Mike Graves : 1/11/2017 2:32 pm : link
Following McAdoo with Robb Darling and Met talk. Station is awful!!!!
The plane story needs to die  
regulator : 1/11/2017 2:34 pm : link
Cleaners, flight attendants, gate agents, even passengers would have undoubtedly taken pictures if the airplane was "trashed", and they'd be making the rounds both in the industry and elsewhere due to the crossover appeal of the story. But there are none. In this day and age, pics or it didn't happen.

United decided to fly a dirty airplane on a flight to London (instead of further delay, risking crew timeout) and employees gave social media trigger-happy customers too much information. End of story.
RE: Nothing like  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2017 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13321655 Mike Graves said:
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Following McAdoo with Robb Darling and Met talk. Station is awful!!!!


yeah how dare he have 2 credible guests on back to back.
Glad to hear him say the coaches will be evaluated  
Rflairr : 1/11/2017 3:00 pm : link
Can't expect to have a good offense. With two proven shitty OCs on the offensive staff, Sullivan and Cignetti
I'd make Sullivan QB coach.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/11/2017 3:01 pm : link
But hopefully coach has ALOT better talent to work with on:

1) O-Line
2) WR
3) TE

ALOT of work to do..
RE: Nothing like  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/11/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13321655 Mike Graves said:
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Following McAdoo with Robb Darling and Met talk. Station is awful!!!!

Why do you continue to listen? It clearly upsets you all the time.
Of all our trolls, WFAN Troll might be the most bizarre  
jcn56 : 1/11/2017 3:20 pm : link
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RE: Two years, two training camps, 33 starts and  
Mark from Jersey : 1/11/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13321587 Thatís Gold, Jerry said:
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Flowers' technique is still bad. That says you either have bad coaching, which I do not believe, or you have a mental midget for a player.

I choose the latter.
I'm not sure...I mean to mental midgets start with reporters in the locker room?
He said you can't expect the defense will perform..  
Sean : 1/11/2017 3:23 pm : link
the same next year. He referenced the offense from 2015 to 2016. I like that attitude.
Its time.......... So far past time  
BlueHurricane : 1/11/2017 3:33 pm : link
To move on from Tom Quinn.

And if you listen to the archived audio on WFAN you can hear McAdoo say "Ah that's BULLSHIT Mike"
RE: Its time.......... So far past time  
Giants2012 : 1/11/2017 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13321751 BlueHurricane said:
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To move on from Tom Quinn.

And if you listen to the archived audio on WFAN you can hear McAdoo say "Ah that's BULLSHIT Mike"


You're joking right? He responded to the plane flight I believe

Lol
RE: RE: Its time.......... So far past time  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13321779 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 13321751 BlueHurricane said:


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To move on from Tom Quinn.

And if you listen to the archived audio on WFAN you can hear McAdoo say "Ah that's BULLSHIT Mike"



You're joking right? He responded to the plane flight I believe

Lol


yes, that was his response to the plane thing. It was great!
Yes, Mike laughed and insinuated they hit the delay  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/11/2017 4:01 pm : link
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"That's bullshit Mike".  
phil in arizona : 1/11/2017 4:12 pm : link
Funny, but C'mon Mac!
RE: Two years, two training camps, 33 starts and  
UConn4523 : 1/11/2017 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13321587 Thatís Gold, Jerry said:
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Flowers' technique is still bad. That says you either have bad coaching, which I do not believe, or you have a mental midget for a player.

I choose the latter.


Earth shattering proposal here, but can't it be on both? Why does 100% blame have to be passed on to 1 person?

Mental Midget is also a bullshit term you are throwing out there for a guy you know nothing about. A guy not performing up to standard doesn't mean they are stupid. Get a fucking life man.
RE:  
Giants2012 : 1/11/2017 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13321811 phil in arizona said:
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Funny, but C'mon Mac!



Noooo filter

RE: I'd make Sullivan QB coach.  
NikkiMac : 1/11/2017 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13321707 Dave in Hoboken said:
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But hopefully coach has ALOT better talent to work with on:

1) O-Line
2) WR
3) TE

ALOT of work to do..


Make Sullivan QB coach ? Well hopefully after all these years with Eli maybe Sullivan can teach him how to properly play fake and throw screen passes !
I thought it was clear  
Rflairr : 1/11/2017 5:29 pm : link
he said bullshit
RE: Its time.......... So far past time  
Boy Cord : 1/11/2017 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13321751 BlueHurricane said:
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To move on from Tom Quinn.

And if you listen to the archived audio on WFAN you can hear McAdoo say "Ah that's BULLSHIT Mike"


What was that in reference to?
RE: RE: Its time.......... So far past time  
Boy Cord : 1/11/2017 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13321923 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 13321751 BlueHurricane said:


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To move on from Tom Quinn.

And if you listen to the archived audio on WFAN you can hear McAdoo say "Ah that's BULLSHIT Mike"



What was that in reference to?


Oh, wait. It looks like the plane non-story.
talk about being spread too thin  
SHO'NUFF : 1/11/2017 7:32 pm : link
maybe he should delegate call playing duties...
Carton is still claiming that the Giants did trash the plane  
micky : 1/12/2017 7:05 am : link
because the airline confirmed it
RE: Carton is still claiming that the Giants did trash the plane  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2017 7:24 am : link
In comment 13322323 micky said:
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because the airline confirmed it



not sure why anyone listens to him.
Cartons just butt hurt bc the Giants players  
mfsd : 1/12/2017 7:31 am : link
have better things to do than pretend to be "bros" with a twerp like him. Take away his chance to be a jock-sniffing suck up, and he realizes he's just another zero
RE: talk about being spread too thin  
TheMick7 : 1/12/2017 8:00 am : link
In comment 13322022 SHO'NUFF said:
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maybe he should delegate call playing duties...


I've thought the same thing this year. Last year as OC, Mac's O was one of the best in the league.Understanding, of course, that they were playing from behind most of the year. But the play calling utilized the Giants strengths & kept the team in many games.

Fast forward to this year & with, arguably, some better pieces on O (Shepherd,Perkins), the O many times looked liked it had gone back to an old pre-Mac playbook. Personnel on field basically stayed same & play calling was vanilla as opposed to the previous year. Now I know the argument is much of it was because of the O Line but this years'5 were last years'5. I guess we'll see this season w/Mac's rookie year as HC behind him. But in comparing the 2, this years' O play calling was missing something( And no, that something was not Rueben Randle!).
Heard it this morning  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/12/2017 8:01 am : link
Carton doing what he does best - he doubles down on the trolling when he's called out.

You now have Banks, Cruz and McAdoo in a 24-hour period calling the story false on the same radio station - Banks specifically calling Carton out. No way he was going to back down - he learned at the foot of Philly troll Howard Eskin.
Dottino said is was BS on Bro and Evan as well.  
Victor in CT : 1/12/2017 8:32 am : link
the plane story did not happen. Cartoon is a dosshbag and so is Norman
RE: Two years, two training camps, 33 starts and  
djm : 1/12/2017 10:34 am : link
In comment 13321587 Thatís Gold, Jerry said:
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Flowers' technique is still bad. That says you either have bad coaching, which I do not believe, or you have a mental midget for a player.

I choose the latter.


So you're saying that two years is plenty of time for a player to reach his potential? Two years?

Jumbo Elliot wasn't a very good LT until his 3rd season. William Roberts took even longer to develop at guard. Tiki Barber was a JAG until his 4th season. Eli couldn't win on the road until his 4th season. Should I go on?
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