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NFT: Mets Familia might still get suspended by MLB

spike : 1/11/2017 6:00 pm
In December, Familia's legal representative, Jay Reisinger, told ESPN.com that having the charges dropped and the lack of evidence could help MLB rule that a suspension is not necessary.

However, people involved with similar situations told me in December that MLB could find grounds for suspension based entirely on comments made by his wife during the initial 911 call to police.

According to the original police report, Familia's wife acknowledges that she was in a dispute with her husband, he was drunk and "going crazy," she said, according to the Associated Press. The commissioner has the right to rule on the situation as he sees fit regardless of the initial charge.

As a result, Familia is expected to be suspended at least 30 games to start the season, sources told Daily News reporter Kristie Ackert in December.



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also  
spike : 1/11/2017 6:01 pm : link
Zack Wheeler and the Mets avoided arbitration by agreeing to a one-year, $800,000 deal on Wednesday, according to Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports.

The Braves are interested in signing infielder Kelly Johnson  
spike : 1/11/2017 6:06 pm : link
and the mets are interested in trading for him midseason
Now that football is over and the Knicks are sucking ass again...  
ZGiants98 : 1/11/2017 11:18 pm : link
Im ready to start talking some baseball again lol.

I dont think people realize how many key components were out of our lineup for most of last season. We had a semblance of the lineup together for only about 62 games in which we went 42-20. The Mets also went 70-12 when scoring 4+ runs which I think this offense is capable of day in and day out. The 2017 lineup should be much closer to the one we saw down the stretch late in 2016.

Duda is back and teamed with Flores (who has really emerged as a lefty murderer) should form an excellent upgrade over Loney. TDA, who was battling shoulder issues and missed significant time last year, hopefully, can rebound to late 14/15 levels (he cant be worse, right?). Reyes will be with the team all year and if Wright is giving it a go provides excellent insurance. Cheech, Nimmo, and Rivera all got their feet wet last year and are ready to step in. Our two top prospects (Smith and Rosario) are heading to AAA. Plawecki seems to have finally responded in AAA after a formal stint there. The lineup is going to be good.
Excuse me...  
ZGiants98 : 1/11/2017 11:19 pm : link
That was "late 2015".
Im surprised a little that we didn't go after a better veteran  
ZGiants98 : 1/11/2017 11:22 pm : link
catcher to team with TDA. I'm not surprised Sandy is waiting out the market on guys like Blevins and Salas. I'm also not surprised Sandy is content to go into the season with Bruce if he cant get suitable talent in return and I'm fine with that too. Eventually, somebody will want Bruce and if he has to start the year in RF, so be it.
Blevins on a two year deal and Holland  
ZGiants98 : 1/11/2017 11:27 pm : link
on a one year deal with maybe an option would be a pretty sweet bow on our offseason if Sandy can pull it off.
Potential Vegas opening day lineup...  
ZGiants98 : 1/11/2017 11:41 pm : link
1.) Nimmo
2.) Cecchini
3.) Conforto
4.) Teijeron
5.) Smith
6.) TJ Rivera
7.) Rosario
8.) Plawecki
if only Jay Bruce can catch  
spike : 1/12/2017 1:21 am : link
then all our problems would be solved, aside from relievers.
At first I got excited  
Shecky : 1/12/2017 7:18 am : link
That I saw a non negative post about Plawecki, but then realize it was you Z, who is always optimistic. Soooooo

Scouting had been hoping the FO from day one Would hold onto Bruce for a draft pick next year. Scouting is really expecting next years (2018) draft to be a damnnnn good one. Change in comp was so devastating for them, but still not horrible.
The problem with keeping  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2017 8:37 am : link
Bruce all year in the hopes of getting comp picks is that it creates a major log jam on this roster. I cant even imagine keeping Conforto in AAA for another full year but I guess as a last resort it could work. I still think something comes a long in a trade more interesting than a comp pick (that might not even be a 1st round comp pick anymore) before the year is out.

As for Plawecki, I bashed him as bad as anyone. He was simply awful at the major league level. That said, he was rushed through Vegas the first time around and it was nice to see him settle down a bit when he was finally demoted and given a chance there the second time.
I hope you guys are right about Plawlecki  
feelflows : 1/12/2017 9:11 am : link
but, to my naked eye he did not look like an MLB caliber player (yet??)

Holland  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 9:51 am : link
isn't going to be a Met. He's either going to get a guaranteed closers job or settle for the highest $$. The Mets aren't outbidding both groups.
Susan Slusser  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 9:54 am : link
suggested Bruce for Ryan Madson but I doubt the Mets are committing 2 years to a guy like Madson.
Still not feeling too great about the pen.  
arcarsenal : 1/12/2017 9:56 am : link
Especially if Familia winds up suspended for 30-60 games.

Also wish we had a better vet insurance policy at catcher in case TDA is terrible again. I just don't see it with Plawecki (sorry, Shecky!)

Really, though.. what this year is going to come down to is the health of our starters. Harvey, deGrom, Matz, and Wheeler.. we need those guys to get healthy and pitch to their capabilities.

Gsellman and Lugo should be nice insurance/depth.

If it didn't create such a logjam, I'd be a little less opposed to just hanging onto Bruce rather than selling him off for pennies on the dollar. I just don't know how everything pieces together if we keep him.
Still  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 9:58 am : link
pissed they didn't make a move for Chooch. Considering the cost he was the perfect add for this team.
Jerry  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 10:03 am : link
DiPoto has made 36 trades since taking over the Mariners just under a year and a half ago lol
The market for  
sshin05 : 1/12/2017 10:04 am : link
guys like Bruce is saturated. A lot guys like him around and their value is currently being diminished. There was a fangraphs article where one trick ponies (all power, no hit, no defense, 1B/OF types) has a low market.
Oakland always made sense to me as a Bruce destination  
Eric on Li : 1/12/2017 10:05 am : link
and when they started getting involved in the power market it seemed like a good fit, but I think they're on Bruce's NT list - though for regular playing time maybe he'd waive it since he probably isn't all that enthused about coming back here and being in a time share situation during a contract year?

My guess is that Sandy is sticking to his MO and not dropping his price, which I commend so long as there's a backup plan for the BP. I'd have no issue with Bruce being on the team next year except for the fact that there's not a great place to play him but there could be an injury in ST so I don't see any major rush.

For the BP, at absolute minimum they need to get Blevins back and maybe add someone with closing experience on a 1 year deal. I'd have preferred to spend the 17M they spent on Walker this year on Holland/Ziegler/Blevins, but there's still time in the offseason so I guess we'll see how things play out. If there's a Bruce deal to be made it will probably happen after Trumbo signs.
happy to be talking about the Mets again  
spike : 1/12/2017 10:05 am : link
just to keep my mind off the GIants for 6 months
NYFS final list  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 10:08 am : link
Rookie maximums for at-bats (130), games pitched (30) or innings (50) in the major leagues"

If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 35% there will be a run-off between the top 2.

Lugo- ineligible
Montero-ineligible

*Executive Decision: Tebow is ineligible until post top 20 unless someone can make a valid (non-comedy) argument otherwise.
- For the remainder of the list (43-50) a run-off will only occur if the top 2 vote getters are tied or within 1 vote of each other.

1) German "Amed" Rosario (SS) 27/29 (93%)
2) Dominic Smith (1B) 10/27 (37%) Run-off vs. Justin Dunn (14/24-58%)
3) Justin Dunn (RHP) 14/28 (50%)
4) Robert Gsellman (RHP) 14/26 (54%)
5) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) 16/29 (55%)
6) Desmond "Dez" Lindsay (OF) 16/26 (62%)
7) Brandon Nimmo (OF) 15/28-54%
8) Gavin Cecchini (SS) 14/29-48%
9) Andres Gimenez (SS) 15/21-71%
10) TJ Rivera (Util) 10/25-40%
11) Tomas Nido (C) 7/27-26%
12) Marcos Molina (SP) 6/27-22%, Run-off with Becerra and Alonso 10/25- 40%
13) Peter Alonso (1B) 10/21-48%
14) Wuilmer Becerra (OF) 16/24-67%
15) Gabriel Ynoa (RHP) 9/26-35%, Runoff with Evans 11/14- 79%
16) Merandy Gonzalez (RHP) 6/23-26%, Runoff with Carpio 12/20-60%
17) Anthony Kay (LHP) 8/23-35%, runoff with Carpio 10/19-53%
18) Luis Carpio (SS) 10/23- 43%
19) Josh Smoker (LHP) 13/21-62%
20) Ali Sanchez (C) 5/16-31%, runoff with 11/18-58%
21) Phil Evans (Util) 13/22-59%
22) PJ Conlon (LHP) 12/20-60%
23) Ricky Knapp 5/24-21%, Runoff with Harol Gonzalez 11/20-55%
24) Chris Flexen 3/17-18%, runoff with Harol Gonzalez 7/11-64%
25) Harol Gonzalez 8/16-50%
26) Ricardo Cespedes 3/15-20%, run-off with Simon 8/15-53%
27) Jake Simon (LHP) 5/14-36%
28) Nabil Crismatt (RHP) 3/15-20%, runoff with Church 13/18-72%
29) Kevin McGowan (RHP) 7/19-37%
30) Andrew Church (RHP) 5/22-23%, runoff with Oswalt/Planck 43%
31) Corey Oswalt (RHP) 4/18-22%, runoff with Tiberi 7/50-50%, advances due to previous poll vote count
32) Paul Sewald (RHP) 4/17-24%, runoff with Tiberi 8/15-53%
33) Blake Tiberi (3B) 2/13-15%, Runoff with Thompson 7/12- 58%
34) Cameron Planck (RHP) 6/14-43%
35) Gregory Guerrero (SS) 6/14-43%
36) Corey Taylor (RP) 4/13-31%
37) David Thompson (3B) 5/14-36%, Runoff with Mazeika 6/6-50%, winner by virtue of previous poll
38) Patrick Mazeika (C) 5/15-33%
39) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/16 44%
40) Colin Holderman (RHP) 3/15-20%, runoff with Urena/Taylor 44%
41) Jhoan Urena (3B) 4/14-29%, runoff with Taylor 15/18-83%
42) Champ Stuart (OF) 5/29-26% runoff with Taylor 8/10-80%
43) Blake Taylor (LHP) 6/16-38%
44) Tyler Bashlor (RHP) 5/11-45%
45) David Roseboom (LHP) 4/15-27%, runoff with McNeil 9/14-64%
46) Luis Guillorme (SS) 5/14-36%
47) Jeff McNeil (UTIL) 5/16-31%, runoff with Silva 4/7-57%
48) Chase Ingram (RHP) 3/14-21%
49) Eudor Garcia (3B) 5/14-36%
50) Joe Zanghi (RHP) 6/17-35%, Runoff with Woodmansee 7/12-58%

Honorable mention-
Austin McGeorge (RHP)
Kevin Kaczmarski (OF)
Colby Woodmansee (SS)
Luis Silva (RHP)
Gary Cornish (RHP)
John Mora (OF)
Kevin Taylor (Util)
Ranfy Adon (OF)
Kenny Hernandez (3B)
RE: Susan Slusser  
sshin05 : 1/12/2017 10:08 am : link
In comment 13322435 DanMetroMan said:
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suggested Bruce for Ryan Madson but I doubt the Mets are committing 2 years to a guy like Madson.


Madson is 36 and his numbers are trending down. However might be the best they can do at the moment.
spike:  
old man : 1/12/2017 10:10 am : link
No interest in the Combine, FA, or Draft?
I know 1 month to the Combine, 7 weeks to FA, SEEMS like 6 months, but........:-)
RE: RE: Susan Slusser  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 10:13 am : link
In comment 13322462 sshin05 said:
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In comment 13322435 DanMetroMan said:


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suggested Bruce for Ryan Madson but I doubt the Mets are committing 2 years to a guy like Madson.



Madson is 36 and his numbers are trending down. However might be the best they can do at the moment.


He's certainly in decline so the risk is real but the Mets would basically be able to "split up" Bruce's money over 2 years (their salaries are basically a push, with Madson's spread over 2). I don't love Madson but I'd have to pull the trigger if offered. Barring a sudden fall off the cliff (certainly possible) he'd be a pretty solid #3 reliever once Familia returned.
RE: RE: RE: Susan Slusser  
Section331 : 1/12/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13322467 DanMetroMan said:
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He's certainly in decline so the risk is real but the Mets would basically be able to "split up" Bruce's money over 2 years (their salaries are basically a push, with Madson's spread over 2). I don't love Madson but I'd have to pull the trigger if offered. Barring a sudden fall off the cliff (certainly possible) he'd be a pretty solid #3 reliever once Familia returned.


Completely agree. I'd do Bruce for Madson in a millisecond.
I doubt the Mets make a play on Holland as well  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2017 12:05 pm : link
But he's reportedly asking for a two year deal with an opt out and nobody's biting. If the ask comes down any further and he settles for a one year "show me" type of situation, it might be worth exploring and seems like something that Sandy might be interested in. I seriously doubt he's getting huge annual money on a one year deal without even pitching yet either. Still... very unlikely but might be worth following.

I still think Salas and Blevins end up Mets again.
RE: I doubt the Mets make a play on Holland as well  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13322685 ZGiants98 said:
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But he's reportedly asking for a two year deal with an opt out and nobody's biting. If the ask comes down any further and he settles for a one year "show me" type of situation, it might be worth exploring and seems like something that Sandy might be interested in. I seriously doubt he's getting huge annual money on a one year deal without even pitching yet either. Still... very unlikely but might be worth following.

I still think Salas and Blevins end up Mets again.


Yeah but what do the Mets have to offer that a team with a closing opening OR more money doesn't? The Mets will outbid a team like the Dodgers? We know they can't match "you can close for us" situations like the Nationals or Royals etc. He's either going to be a closer for someone or take the most money he can get. I find it very hard to believe the Mets are that team.
Maybe the Mets did rush Plawecki  
pjcas18 : 1/12/2017 12:24 pm : link
but I don't blame them if they did. What exactly was he going to learn by more time in Vegas? How do put up inflated #'s in high altitude hitters parks? How to hit mediocre pitching? Defense?

He was a college player who made his Major debut at 24 years old.

Conforto, who might have been rushed too, has a better case for being rushed (and I'm not saying he was, just comparing the two), Conforto had 0 AAA at-bats and a comparable # of AA at-bats to what Plawecki had at AAA.

top 20 from sickels  
sshin05 : 1/12/2017 12:25 pm : link
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Another  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 12:37 pm : link
guy the Mets won't be signing
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RE: top 20 from sickels  
Shecky : 1/12/2017 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13322722 sshin05 said:
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I HATE lists like this, but he is one of the more respected names out there. Prospect lists are usually top heavy on athleticism guys as opposed to baseball players. Sickles is one of the few leading the way of generally factoring in their ability to play the game.

Alonso is one who I'd expect to create some more fan buzz than anyone else is expecting this year.
RE: RE: I doubt the Mets make a play on Holland as well  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13322688 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13322685 ZGiants98 said:


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But he's reportedly asking for a two year deal with an opt out and nobody's biting. If the ask comes down any further and he settles for a one year "show me" type of situation, it might be worth exploring and seems like something that Sandy might be interested in. I seriously doubt he's getting huge annual money on a one year deal without even pitching yet either. Still... very unlikely but might be worth following.

I still think Salas and Blevins end up Mets again.



Yeah but what do the Mets have to offer that a team with a closing opening OR more money doesn't? The Mets will outbid a team like the Dodgers? We know they can't match "you can close for us" situations like the Nationals or Royals etc. He's either going to be a closer for someone or take the most money he can get. I find it very hard to believe the Mets are that team.


You're right but what if he tries out for a team and the optics are bad? What if he's not all the way back yet? What if nobody wants him to be their closer? The Mets were indeed looking for a reliever with late inning ability at least earlier in the offseason. You're right though... It's not likely...
Well  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 2:15 pm : link
sure, if he does private workouts and doesn't impress then maybe teams drop out etc but it seems like a very unlikely scenario. I'm assuming he will be the Nationals closer but a team like the Dodgers could easily just throw money at him.
I still think there's a big enough jump  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2017 3:19 pm : link
To AAA that its important. Especially for guys who aren't sure fire studs. I think pitchers have more polished secondary pitches as well as a better understanding on how to get hitters out. Heck, they might even have to pitch "better" than they might in the majors to compensate for balls getting hit further, ect. Guys like Syndergaard, Matz, and Harvey all went through Vegas. A guy like Gsellman was struggling there but immoderately settled down when he got promoted. I don't think that means that he was less talented or was throwing worse pitches than what you might find in AA. I'm not a fan of Vegas but still think it's an important step in a young players development.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2017 3:53 pm : link
sign garbage Adam Wilk

Terrible career numbers for a potential LOOGY. Looks like AAA depth to me


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I noticed Conlon and Rosebloom  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2017 5:02 pm : link
Are invited to camp. Rosebloom was actually excellent against lefties in AA last year. I could see Conlon converted too if the need was there. Still think we'll bring a guy like Blevins or Logan in but I'm really not sweating it. Middle relievers and LOOGYs have such little effect on wins and losses in terms of a season. Let's say Edgin is awful and pitches to a 4.50 ERA (pretty bad for a specialist) and compare that to what Blevins did last year. You are talking about a 5-6 runs difference in terms of the whole season. That said, sign Blevins please but it won't be a game changer either way.
duda settles  
sshin05 : 1/12/2017 5:09 pm : link
Jon Heyman
lucas Duda settles with mets. $7.25M.
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