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NFL free agency always winds up looking drastically different in March than it does in January. Most of the top players on my first crack at the "best of" list of pending free agents below will be re-signed or retained with the franchise tag before the new league year officially starts on March 9. The list of available players will also swell with veterans released for performance or salary reasons. In short: Expect a much different set of rankings by the time Chris Wesseling and I post our annual Top 99 Free Agents list in late February. In the meantime, here's a quick first look at the upcoming market. The players are ranked by their ability to impact a team for the next two to three years -- this does not necessarily reflect who will make the most money. |
He's ranked # 10
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JPP without an index finger..He lost more than that..
He's ranked # 10
True, but not my point..How could anyone not know he lost more than an index finger?
Retain JPP and Hankins.
Then go with another OL + TE + RB early in the draft.
No he isn't. Don't know why he'd be behind Jackson or britt
We wouldn't give him the money he'd command, but I'd love to have him behind Eli
He' on the others list just below
If teams pay attention to that, it's good for us
He's going to command way too much. What do the browns have to lose by making him one of the highest paid WRs in the league? He has the most upside of any FA WR IMO, even more than Alshon.
What sucks is that any potential WR FA this offseason has this problem.
Pryor: headchase
Jackson: headcase
Jeffrey: injury-prone headcase
Garçon: headcase
Britt: dumbass headcase
Marshall (if cut): headcase
Probably says a lot more about the WR position than it does about individual players.
Never mind, I miss read how it was presented on the website. They had him under Tampa.
I pretty much agree with this. Get jack Doyle or draft OJ howard or the Miami kid.
There's just a lot of money to spend this offseason. Not like last year but I think we can solidify OL, TE, WR and RB all with the money we have and our draft picks. I certainly don't want to splurge on a big name WR but if say Marshall would sign a cheapish 1 year deal if cut I wouldn't be opposed. Brian quick on near minimum wouldn't be that bad either.
The Giants absolutely need a big #2 WR. The group the Giants trotted out last year isn't going to get it done.
Go Get him...or draft DE in the 1st.
Go Get him...or draft DE in the 1st.
Dinger - do you really think Arizona is going to let Campbell onto the open market?
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and there have been a ton of reports about Pryors character coming from multiple players. I wouldn't touch this kid considering what we already have.
What sucks is that any potential WR FA this offseason has this problem.
Pryor: headchase
Jackson: headcase
Jeffrey: injury-prone headcase
Garçon: headcase
Britt: dumbass headcase
Marshall (if cut): headcase
Probably says a lot more about the WR position than it does about individual players.
Kenny stills. Giants just need someone to open up the field for Beckham to work those crossing routes, slants and everything.
I'd even consider marquise Goodwin Giants WR are sow.
Melvin
Melvin
I loved him coming out of South Carolina a few years ago
If Giants could afford him he would be a major disruptive force at LB the Giants haven't had in years. Put him on the same side as OV and that makes OV a much better player
My second pick at FA would be Kevin Zeitler at RG
Personally I think the Giants should sign JPP and let Hankins walk
Zeitler
Zeitler
I'd love the Giants to get interested in his services though I wouldn't break the bank for him.
I'd love the Giants to get interested in his services though I wouldn't break the bank for him.
Gun to my head he gets $10M+ a year from the Browns among many other teams.
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and there have been a ton of reports about Pryors character coming from multiple players. I wouldn't touch this kid considering what we already have.
What sucks is that any potential WR FA this offseason has this problem.
Pryor: headchase
Jackson: headcase
Jeffrey: injury-prone headcase
Garçon: headcase
Britt: dumbass headcase
Marshall (if cut): headcase
Probably says a lot more about the WR position than it does about individual players.
Kenny stills. Giants just need someone to open up the field for Beckham to work those crossing routes, slants and everything.
I'd even consider marquise Goodwin Giants WR are sow.
Stills is solid but again what type of money is he going to get? If he is getting what Rishhard Matthews got last season (3 year $15M) that would be pretty fair in my view. They have devante Parker back so there's a chance they let him go but he did have a good season.
Jeffrey is probably the #1 receiver on the market but I don't think he has the upside Pryor brings. Pryor is an elite athlete and has 1200+ yard potential every season. This was first legit season as a WR. It'd be risky to give him that type of money but if you're the Browns it would be risky to let him walk for nothing, whatever the cost.
Not against Lacy at all but what type of money is he seeking? If he's getting vereen money I'm for it, but giving $5M+ a year for an overall pretty solid bit nothing special RB? I'd rather stick with Perkins and draft a complement RB.
I see this as a 2-pronged fix: Get a TE that can get up the seam + a WR opposite Odell who can feast on 1 on 1 coverage.
I'm OK paying a good salary to that WR - think we find our TE in the draft.
Loosen up some of those BS triple teams on OBJ we let teams get away with. We do that be gashing teams up the seam, and on the opposite side of the field.
The way teams played us this year - cover 2, S's shaded to the WRs (which allowed the CBs to overplay the short stuff), inside/outside bracket coverage on Shepard because he only ran short patterns.
Do those things and we force the ball to the TE.
And that was it.
We'll have an answer for that, this year. Book it.
Do people understand that Snacks is rated really high on PFF so PFF rating on DT is right.. On the other hand PFF ranks Hankins low.. Hence PFF ratings on DT must be flawed.. I conclude that PFF is not perfect but Hankins himself isn't as good.. I would never pay him Snacks money.. at best I would pay him what Linval got from the Vikings.. otherwise we have more important needs at OT, RB, LB.
He'll cost a lot though. Marvin Jones got 8 mill per with worse numbers and similar size but probably a higher ceiling (and better FA conditions for a vet WR). Still, I'd bet he gets around 6-7 mill per. That'd be fine I think, if we're willing to go that route.
Lastly, he's probably somewhat friendly with Odell. He plays with Landry in MIA, so they must at least know each other through him. I'm not sure overall his character though. He has been with two teams in four years. I don't know what that says.
He'll cost a lot though. Marvin Jones got 8 mill per with worse numbers and similar size but probably a higher ceiling (and better FA conditions for a vet WR). Still, I'd bet he gets around 6-7 mill per. That'd be fine I think, if we're willing to go that route.
Lastly, he's probably somewhat friendly with Odell. He plays with Landry in MIA, so they must at least know each other through him. I'm not sure overall his character though. He has been with two teams in four years. I don't know what that says.
I think NO didn't keep him just because they've had a slew of good WRs and didn't need to pay to keep him.
I don't think stills is better than Rishard Matthews so if he's getting more money than him then I'd be hesitant.
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He's a bigger guy than we have at 6'1'' and he's got that DeSean Jackson deep catch/big play prone-ness about him (16.7 ypc/20 TD career). He's also only 24. So we can sign him long term without fear of him slowing down or losing something. I think he'd be a perfect complement to our guys in terms of skills.
He'll cost a lot though. Marvin Jones got 8 mill per with worse numbers and similar size but probably a higher ceiling (and better FA conditions for a vet WR). Still, I'd bet he gets around 6-7 mill per. That'd be fine I think, if we're willing to go that route.
Lastly, he's probably somewhat friendly with Odell. He plays with Landry in MIA, so they must at least know each other through him. I'm not sure overall his character though. He has been with two teams in four years. I don't know what that says.
I think NO didn't keep him just because they've had a slew of good WRs and didn't need to pay to keep him.
I don't think stills is better than Rishard Matthews so if he's getting more money than him then I'd be hesitant.
1-2 mill difference isn't that great. Stills is a better deep threat than Matthews though. IDK. We'll see how the FO wants to handle the O. Hopefully, they strike early and often on the OL and OJ falls to us in the first. Luckily, there are a lot of other good playmakers on offense in the draft this year that a few should fall to us. Either a big RB or a WR... one is likely to fall.
Offensive line, it makes everything better. And having a running game and giving Eli even another second or two more to pass will make the passing game better.
Sucks for Hankins(but not for us) that this is probably the deepest, most talented DT free agent pool in history.
Melvin
Melvin
I loved him coming out of South Carolina a few years ago
If Giants could afford him he would be a major disruptive force at LB the Giants haven't had in years. Put him on the same side as OV and that makes OV a much better player
My second pick at FA would be Kevin Zeitler at RG
Personally I think the Giants should sign JPP and let Hankins walk
I get that DEs are fundamentally more valuable than DTs, but I would counter that what makes the Giants' defense effective is staying in advantageous down and distance scenarios. Having a strong DT tandem is a key to that. Meanwhile, when JPP went down with his injury, the defense continued their effective level of play.
Ultimately, I'd hope for the Giants to re-sign both of them, but I believe that Hankins is the more important cog in the wheel, specifically for Spags' scheme.
I do echo your interest in Ingram though. I don't know if he's necessarily worth the incremental cost above Kennard, but I do think he would add another layer to the pass rush (although having a dedicated pass rushing LB in a 4-3 can be a bit predictable).