is a ST guy and not a bad one as long as he isn't on the defense unless it a short yardage run, I have no problem with the guy.
Now Shepard the Linebacker is horrible.
Wade because he just flat-out stinks. Cruz and Jennings because they are done. Keeping them around would only be because of what they did in the past and not what they can do in the future.
But to diffently have a much smaller role.
I would keep them cheaper and lower on the depth chart.
Cruz
Tye
Jennings
Donnell
Wade
Jerry
Newhouse
I can go on for about 6 more
Vereen has been the most inconsistent back we've had (however briefly he's stayed on the field). He was a huge value in the redzone and on third down (in 2015), but I don't think his skills set him apart from other backs we can pick up for a significant cost savings. If he's gone, I assume that means we got a decent back in the draft and we're moving forward from both Vereen and Jennings. Looking forward, not back.
Cruz... too much money, too much media, too much stagnation on offense. If Cruz is gone, we've probably got a better Z WR than he was for us this past season, and the offense is moving forward in the same way the defense did last year: more explosive and younger.
JPP... too much money, too much money. I think JPP wants more than the Giants can justify spending on him. If he's gone, I assume the FO decided they could target bigger needs in FA and saved the money to do that. I assume JPP leaving means we retained Hankins and signed a top 5 FA OL with the same amount of money we could have used on JPP. I wish he would stay, but I'm not sure he will anymore and I'm not sure it's good for all involved.
If Perkins gets hurt, who do you feel comfortable with back there? Anyone? who will protect Eli?
I like Jennings, but towards the end of the season, it seemed clear to me, he was running out of gas. His speed is shot. He would be better off gaining some weight and playing FB at this point (because he is consistent in his blocking etc.). I'm more put off on Vereen, but both guys are due more money than they're worth going into next year. I'd be surprised to see both of them on the 53 going into next season.
our best olineman this year! Why would we get rid of him? He's a Free Agent, but I'd bring him back as depth, most definitely. His pass blocking has not been the issue. He's had problems run blocking straight up, but does a nice job when pulling. Anyway, I don't see him gone. For me it's Jennings, Donnell and JT Thomas.
and represents all that is wrong with this O-line. I wouldn't mind keeping him and Newhouse for depth, but I have a feeling the coaching staff will be too tempted to play those two as the incumbent starters while turning a blind eye to newcomers. Just love TC did with Diehl towards the end of his career.
If Cruz wants to come to camp for the vet min great.
The hate for Jerry is almost hilarious. Our OL was awful and he was very likely our best OL this year (O'hara said as much). But yeah let's just move Flowers and we are set... lol
I can't believe it took this long for someone to say JT Thomas. Maybe I missed a post before this one... I feel bad for the guy but he's as easy a cut as any.
'Give me Three Players from last years team you want gone?'...
I'll give you five and this wasn't a hard decision to come too...
Larry Donnell- he's scared of contact...that's a non starter in a football player that isn't a kicker.
Victor Cruz- worst waste of cap space on the team this season...he's toast. Thanks for the memories Vic.
Rashad Jennings- this unit needs more explosion and dynamic plays. That's not his game.
JT Thomas- he's expendable at his cap number. I would consider retaining him with a significant paycut.
Mark Herzlich- I haven't understood for years how this guy makes the roster. Special teams youth should have starting upside or developmental traits. He has none. The exception are specialists like long snappers...which he ain't.
Trevin Wade- has this guy made a pass defense?...ever? He's beyond awful.
John Jerry and Marshall Newhouse should be backups but were forced into the starting lineup by bad drafting and cap allocation by our GM. So I'd like to demote them but keep them around in their proper role...as bench depth. Unfortunately I'm so sick of them sucking balls every Sunday I'd jettison them as well.
OK that was more like 8. How did we win 11 games after all?
-Donnell
-J.T. Thomas
Rainey
Jerry
Cruz
Leaping Larry
Bonus pick: J.T. Thomas (feel like he never played a snap, zero impact)
#2......Jennings
#3......Donnel
2) Cruz
3) Jennings
How about XBronx and silverfox?
Now Shepard the Linebacker is horrible.
Yeah I love you too. First thread contribution you make in here will knock me over.
Jennings
Cruz
Cruz
Jennings
Wade because he just flat-out stinks. Cruz and Jennings because they are done. Keeping them around would only be because of what they did in the past and not what they can do in the future.
-Donnell
-J.T. Thomas
This would be my top three as well.
I would keep them cheaper and lower on the depth chart.
Cruz
Tye
Jennings
Donnell
Wade
Jerry
Newhouse
I can go on for about 6 more
Go root for the jets and learn how to read and decipher what you read!
Talk about stooped people!!!
Wholly shit, after these guys ....do I really want to brag about being a giant fan?
We have to much money allocated to RBs. We need to get younger and cheaper there. I think Perkins and a drafted RB will be our 1 2 punch.
Hoping Goodson can step up and take the MLB position.
Go root for the jets and learn how to read and decipher what you read!
Talk about stooped people!!!
Wholly shit, after these guys ....do I really want to brag about being a giant fan?
89 years old and your eyes deceive you!
Vereen has been the most inconsistent back we've had (however briefly he's stayed on the field). He was a huge value in the redzone and on third down (in 2015), but I don't think his skills set him apart from other backs we can pick up for a significant cost savings. If he's gone, I assume that means we got a decent back in the draft and we're moving forward from both Vereen and Jennings. Looking forward, not back.
Cruz... too much money, too much media, too much stagnation on offense. If Cruz is gone, we've probably got a better Z WR than he was for us this past season, and the offense is moving forward in the same way the defense did last year: more explosive and younger.
JPP... too much money, too much money. I think JPP wants more than the Giants can justify spending on him. If he's gone, I assume the FO decided they could target bigger needs in FA and saved the money to do that. I assume JPP leaving means we retained Hankins and signed a top 5 FA OL with the same amount of money we could have used on JPP. I wish he would stay, but I'm not sure he will anymore and I'm not sure it's good for all involved.
I like Jennings, but towards the end of the season, it seemed clear to me, he was running out of gas. His speed is shot. He would be better off gaining some weight and playing FB at this point (because he is consistent in his blocking etc.). I'm more put off on Vereen, but both guys are due more money than they're worth going into next year. I'd be surprised to see both of them on the 53 going into next season.
Cruz
Herzlich
Just kidding! Definitely, Newhouse, Jerry and Donnell.
I wouldn't mind Newhouse and Jerry as backups, but want neither as starters.
Jerry
Flowers
#2- Randy Bullock
#3- Robbie Gould
Wade
The hate for Jerry is almost hilarious. Our OL was awful and he was very likely our best OL this year (O'hara said as much). But yeah let's just move Flowers and we are set... lol
JT Thomas, only because he's useless
Surprised it took this long before somebody brought up Wade's name..
I'm done with that guy..
2. Donnelly
3. Rainey
Lol jk
Bobby Rainey
Larry Donnell
Cant have guys who make stupid mental mistakes over and over.
Newhouse
Donnell
...Ereck Flowers.
And Ereck Flowers.
2. George Selvie
3. Jon Beason
1. Jerry
2. Donnell
3. Jennings
Honorable mention: Harris, Berhe, J Johnson
And two I'd like added who were not on the roster this year:
1. Will Johnson. FB
2. Matt Lacosse. TE
JT Thomas, only because he's useless
I can't believe it took this long for someone to say JT Thomas. Maybe I missed a post before this one... I feel bad for the guy but he's as easy a cut as any.
Larry Donnell- he's scared of contact...that's a non starter in a football player that isn't a kicker.
Victor Cruz- worst waste of cap space on the team this season...he's toast. Thanks for the memories Vic.
Rashad Jennings- this unit needs more explosion and dynamic plays. That's not his game.
JT Thomas- he's expendable at his cap number. I would consider retaining him with a significant paycut.
Mark Herzlich- I haven't understood for years how this guy makes the roster. Special teams youth should have starting upside or developmental traits. He has none. The exception are specialists like long snappers...which he ain't.
Trevin Wade- has this guy made a pass defense?...ever? He's beyond awful.
John Jerry and Marshall Newhouse should be backups but were forced into the starting lineup by bad drafting and cap allocation by our GM. So I'd like to demote them but keep them around in their proper role...as bench depth. Unfortunately I'm so sick of them sucking balls every Sunday I'd jettison them as well.
OK that was more like 8. How did we win 11 games after all?