With Nassib as a UFA and Josh Johnson as the only other QB, its time for the Giants to draft another QB. The only question is who will they take and what rd?
Who do you like for them?
If Trubiski, Kizer, Watson are there at 23, do you bite? Eli has a limited shelf life, could be 1 year, could be 3 years, do you want someone to groom so we don't lose the prime years of OBJ and this youngish defense?
Or are you looking for a high upside, low floor player in rds 3-4? Brad Kaaya or Jerod Evans?
Or you just want a body/character risk that is there to have a backup at a low salary, ala Josh Dobbs/Chad Kelly?
Sumthin else?
It will be interesting to see how workouts go.
Mahomes has a rocket arm with nice touch on short and intermediate passes. He's big, can take hits, and is mobile, with some Houdini like escapes.
But his deep ball needs work. His arm strength also encourages him to make throws he shouldn't. He's a gunslinger. We've seen that with Eli. His footwork at times is also awful. And he plays in an "air raid" offense, which means he has little experience working under center.
Davis Webb is Jared Goff's replacement. But Cal is also an "air raid" offense, and Webb actually transferred from Texas Tech, another "air raid" offense. Webb's arm isn't as good as Mahomes, but he's generally safer with the ball.
Right now, I'd rate them both in the third round. My guess is both are gone by then. For various reasons, Evans, Kaaya, and Kelly are day three picks. We haven't had any luck with QBs taken on day three. Kelly also has a lot of character concerns.
I wouldn't force the pick. If we have to wait until 2018 to draft Eli's replacement, so be it.
Watson gets criticized as being a run first, or at least "dual threat" QB, but I think it's unfair. He'll tell you straight up he's a pass first, in the pocket guy; at least that's what he wants to be. If he seemed to be running a lot last week, remember he might not have had much choice with the #1 D in the country on his ass. Great ability, great character, shows up in the biggest games; I mean really, what more do you want?
Mahommes and Webb suck. Get the shit out of here with those 2. Spread offense QBs who didnt succeed against good teams in their league is a big no no. Look at Geno Smith.
Same really applies for Seth Russell of Baylor.
I wouldn't draft any QB this year
Same really applies for Seth Russell of Baylor.
I wouldn't draft any QB this year
Pretty much my thinking.
I know his stock has fallen and he's been injured, had attitude questions, and experienced growing pains, but I think he's got the physical tools to be a good NFL QB.
How far he's fallen says whether he'll be there for the Giants or not.
They'd need to re-sign Josh Johnson, he's also a UFA like Nassib.
Draft to fill the real needs including OL, TE, RB, a big WR, and replacements for anybody important who leaves.
Eli's time is short and they need to improve the team around him if he is going to have any chance to win another Super Bowl.
Watson is an intriguing prospect but not one I'd pull the trigger on at 23. Could I see Reese doing it though? Yes I could.
I liked Kaaya going into Miami but he never really elevated himself. Webb is kind of just a guy and Mahomes is toolsy but a project in terms of playing pro style.
I would go earlier.
He's only 6'2 but I would go for him too.
We need to solidify the line and get players who will be here for the next 5+ years. Then, now only does that help us to take advantage of Eli's remaining couple of years but also will help with any new QB we draft to take his place.
He tore his knee so he's going to drop. Question is how far. I'm tempted Round 3 yet would definatley try in Round 4 (I think a lot might try in Round 4).
Gunner Kiel, Seth Russell or CJ Beathard
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It will be interesting to see how workouts go.
I'm a really big fan of Mahomes, but he's not a first rounder, IMO. I'd look for him in the 3rd. Spread QBs tend to slide a bit in the draft. But I would absolutely take him in the 3rd without question.
They aren't going to leave a franchise QB on the board when they have a 35 year old QB and have no backup because they are in "win now" mode...whatever the hell that means. (Are they ever not in "win now" mode?)
The draft is for the future. With Eli's age they must be at least starting to think about the future after Eli. The only question is their opinion of the QB crop and who is no the board.
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Mahomes or Watson at the end of the first right now it would be too much to pass up.
It will be interesting to see how workouts go.
I'm a really big fan of Mahomes, but he's not a first rounder, IMO. I'd look for him in the 3rd. Spread QBs tend to slide a bit in the draft. But I would absolutely take him in the 3rd without question.
The Giants are perfect for Mahomes. He has the tools to be a really good NFL QB but needs time to work on footwork and reading defenses.
Love his arm strength, release, accuracy, and mobility. Definitely a gunslinger too.
Read a couple reports that he could go as high as the middle of the first round.
Also like Cincinnati's Gunner Kiel. A lot of talent to work with but injuries (concussions) have held him back. Be a good 7th round pick or priority free agent. He'll have time to get healthy.
Either of these guys could be ready when Manning goes.
Also like Pat Mahomes from Texas Tech but he'll need work and will cost a 2rd Round pick. Not worth it right now. Too many other needs on offense.