-KP hopeful he can play today, Hornacek deemed him "doubtful" last night. If he's borderline then he shouldn't play.
"When asked to respond to that particular line in the article, Anthony said: If thats the case than thats whats coming from that side I guess its a conversation we should have. If they feel like my time in New York is over I guess thats a conversation we should have.
During Anthonys post-game interview session with reporters on Sunday, Anthony was informed twice that the article was not written by Jackson but instead a close friend. Anthony, though, had no trouble connecting the dots, suggesting that it is more than a coincidence that the writer who criticized him in the piece has a relationship with the Knicks team president.
Listen, Anthony said, if thats what they feelif thats whats coming from that side thats whats coming from that side. I havent thought once about that to be honest with you. I hear it. I hear all the rhetoric thats going on out there and I still come to work every day and play and bust my ass and try not to worry about it.
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I still think washington is the spot that works the best fit wise and is one of the better cities to live in this country. Only issue is the fans there don't give a fuck about their sports teams.
One source described the meeting as far more contentious than previous sit downs between Jackson and Anthony.
Trade deadline should be interesting
Lol. Well Melo averaged like 28 ppg the season prior to his FA. I obviously didn't think that's what Melo's value equated to at the time but given the direction we needed to head in that it would be the correct move to make.
Now who knows whether or not we might've gotten KP.
But please Phil if you get him to waive his NTC then this will be the first time this organization will have realized the proper direction to build a team.
Trade deadline should be interesting
We can only hope
Phil Jackson's resume with trades is beyond abysmal. You trust him to get anything for Melo? Nah.
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Carmelo Anthony informed Phil Jackson today that he wants to remain with the Knicks, the Daily News has learned. Story coming.
Source: Carmelo Anthony reaffirmed his desire to stay with Knicks in meeting with Phil Jackson today, league source tells @TheVertical.
Each may be getting their story out there, but I very much doubt that they're co-managing a message. Nobody trusts Phil on messaging.
This is a really important point. Melo not waiving his NTC is his right. He bargained for it. But we dont need to commit to giving him a veteran playoff roster. We need to rebuild. If we cant get top 5 picks because Melo prevents us from sucking super hard, so be it. We hopefully have one franchise piece already, and that is the hard thing to land. Use mid/late lottery picks on wing athletes, develop KP and Willy, and sign some Euro vets. Then free agency 2019-2020 you hope to make a splash. Will be harder with the new CBA, but who knows -- maybe we'll have enough for a sign an trade.
We are one home run draft pick away from having a title contending twosome. I really believe it. It's not so outlandish to think we could get lucky again.
SAS said this morning Melo wasn't interested in leaving because he and his family LOVE NY.
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Just get as much as you can out of everyone else. Get a couple of 2nd rounders for Lee, Jennings, O'Quinn, holiday, whatever. Let rose walk. Don't fucking max Jute Holiday. Let Ron baker run point or sign yogi Ferrell to do so. If Melo won't leave then don't let it prevent us from heading in the same direction.
This is a really important point. Melo not waiving his NTC is his right. He bargained for it. But we dont need to commit to giving him a veteran playoff roster. We need to rebuild. If we cant get top 5 picks because Melo prevents us from sucking super hard, so be it. We hopefully have one franchise piece already, and that is the hard thing to land. Use mid/late lottery picks on wing athletes, develop KP and Willy, and sign some Euro vets. Then free agency 2019-2020 you hope to make a splash. Will be harder with the new CBA, but who knows -- maybe we'll have enough for a sign an trade.
We are one home run draft pick away from having a title contending twosome. I really believe it. It's not so outlandish to think we could get lucky again.
agree with all of this but what are the chances Phil executes this plan? He's an old man who's obviously not long for this job. I'm thinking he continues to try and "contend" which means more of the same moves many of us here have been criticizing.
agree with all of this but what are the chances Phil executes this plan? He's an old man who's obviously not long for this job. I'm thinking he continues to try and "contend" which means more of the same moves many of us here have been criticizing.
Well if he thinks he can put together a contender in the next few years he is delusional. And ipso facto the wrong man for the job.
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SAS said this morning Melo wasn't interested in leaving because he and his family LOVE NY.
Then trade him to BKN. The nets can do the rest of the EC a favor and ensure the Celtics don't build another dynasty after the Cavs are done dominating the east. He won't have to move his family. Just an extra 20 minute subway ride.
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agree with all of this but what are the chances Phil executes this plan? He's an old man who's obviously not long for this job. I'm thinking he continues to try and "contend" which means more of the same moves many of us here have been criticizing.
Well if he thinks he can put together a contender in the next few years he is delusional. And ipso facto the wrong man for the job.
he's been delusional since he got here - I have no reason to think he's all of a sudden going to wake up and realize his approach has lacking.
somehwo they are going to win both..
keeping him here in NY wasn't the problem. It was giving him the NTC and the trade kicker and the ETO along with the big contract. And yes, he took slightly less than the max, but it was a relatively insignificant amount.
Did kg not care aboit winning when he did not want to leave minnesota?
i think it is a little unfair to say he doesnt care, if he didnt care he could juat retire collect his money and work on his off the court stuff..
I think he cares, i just think he loves being in new york and doesnt want to leave, funny how we as fans beg for a player to want to be in new york and now we rip him for staying
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He lives a great life and makes oodles of money. He's never played like he cares about winning and he doesn't act like he cares about winning. That's his prerogative and Phil messed up resigning this guy.
keeping him here in NY wasn't the problem. It was giving him the NTC and the trade kicker and the ETO along with the big contract. And yes, he took slightly less than the max, but it was a relatively insignificant amount.
in reality he took a big discount because of the jump of the salary cap, he could of went the lwbron route and made a lot.more money
The lure of "winning" isn't always a great thing. I seriously doubt Karl Malone would make the decision to deal with the Lakers headache again. (Granted, he was older and the Lakers actually made it to the Finals despite a team of people who hated each other.) I don't think Melo would just go anywhere with a good team.
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he's happy losing and collecting and keeping his life.
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He lives a great life and makes oodles of money. He's never played like he cares about winning and he doesn't act like he cares about winning. That's his prerogative and Phil messed up resigning this guy.
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Keith : 1/15/2017 8:03 pm : link : reply
think that way because melo doesn't really care about winning which this would show. He's only willing to play with his friends or go to la.
Again with the mind reading. You have literally no basis to say Melo doesnt care about winning. what's your evidence? That he wont demand a trade to a contender? Really, how many guys do this? The Durant, LeBron, Bosh movement has been really rare in NBA history.
But go on, just pollute these threads with your emotional Melo hate.
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He lives a great life and makes oodles of money. He's never played like he cares about winning and he doesn't act like he cares about winning. That's his prerogative and Phil messed up resigning this guy.
keeping him here in NY wasn't the problem. It was giving him the NTC and the trade kicker and the ETO along with the big contract. And yes, he took slightly less than the max, but it was a relatively insignificant amount.
Thats the key point. I wanted to resign him but Jackson should have held his feet to the fire and resigned him on Knick's positive terms. Less years less money and not giving the no trade or kicker or ETO. If he walked then fine, but those are the big decisions Jackson was brought in to do. Phil gets massive credit for Porzingis but he's been an enormous disappointment. Knicks drama and futility continue.
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He lives a great life and makes oodles of money. He's never played like he cares about winning and he doesn't act like he cares about winning. That's his prerogative and Phil messed up resigning this guy.
keeping him here in NY wasn't the problem. It was giving him the NTC and the trade kicker and the ETO along with the big contract. And yes, he took slightly less than the max, but it was a relatively insignificant amount.
in reality he took a big discount because of the jump of the salary cap, he could of went the lwbron route and made a lot.more money
sorry, but I don't give him credit for being unwilling to take a risk and bet on himself. He went the safe route and guaranteed himself $125.
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He lives a great life and makes oodles of money. He's never played like he cares about winning and he doesn't act like he cares about winning. That's his prerogative and Phil messed up resigning this guy.
keeping him here in NY wasn't the problem. It was giving him the NTC and the trade kicker and the ETO along with the big contract. And yes, he took slightly less than the max, but it was a relatively insignificant amount.
Thats the key point. I wanted to resign him but Jackson should have held his feet to the fire and resigned him on Knick's positive terms. Less years less money and not giving the no trade or kicker or ETO. If he walked then fine, but those are the big decisions Jackson was brought in to do. Phil gets massive credit for Porzingis but he's been an enormous disappointment. Knicks drama and futility continue.
If Melo had agreed to a significantly below market deal (4/80 or something like that) I could see giving him the trade kicker or other benefits in return. But he basically got every conceivable perk in the contract and the max money. He is/was a great player, but he was never the type of player to which you cede that much leverage.
If they are really attaching Mohammed could also improve the bench
Are we sure about that?
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and is a better defender than rose..
Are we sure about that?
I guess me and you are better defenders so it is hard to tell