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NFT: Knicks: Melo vs. Phil?

DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 10:59 am
-KP hopeful he can play today, Hornacek deemed him "doubtful" last night. If he's borderline then he shouldn't play.


"When asked to respond to that particular line in the article, Anthony said: If thats the case than thats whats coming from that side I guess its a conversation we should have. If they feel like my time in New York is over I guess thats a conversation we should have.

During Anthonys post-game interview session with reporters on Sunday, Anthony was informed twice that the article was not written by Jackson but instead a close friend. Anthony, though, had no trouble connecting the dots, suggesting that it is more than a coincidence that the writer who criticized him in the piece has a relationship with the Knicks team president.

Listen, Anthony said, if thats what they feelif thats whats coming from that side thats whats coming from that side. I havent thought once about that to be honest with you. I hear it. I hear all the rhetoric thats going on out there and I still come to work every day and play and bust my ass and try not to worry about it.
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Nobody  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:01 am : link
messes with Oakley
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Metnut : 1/16/2017 11:14 am : link
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Barkley is probably too busy counting money from his TNT deal to get into it with Oak at 53 years old.
DX  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:18 am : link
just updated their top prospects and perfectly on cue with how things go for the Knicks they have the top 3 players all being PG's and 4 out of the top 6. The debate over Fultz, Ball, Smith should be very intriguing. I suspect Fultz's upside is too immense to not have him go #1.
DMM  
ColHowPepper : 1/16/2017 11:18 am : link
But exactly what is--not what WAS--Rosen's relationship with Phil. Way one NY paper this morning described it is that Rosen was an assistant to Phil with the Albany Patroons. That goes back, what, to the early or late 80s? In other words is Rosen widely believed to be one of Jackson's confidants now, decades later?
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DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:21 am : link
In comment 13328160 ColHowPepper said:
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But exactly what is--not what WAS--Rosen's relationship with Phil. Way one NY paper this morning described it is that Rosen was an assistant to Phil with the Albany Patroons. That goes back, what, to the early or late 80s? In other words is Rosen widely believed to be one of Jackson's confidants now, decades later?


I don't think there is any question that Rosen "speaks for" Phil. Now if his most recent comments are "from Phil" or simply Rosen speaking out of turn, that might be questionable. But I suspect even the strongest of Phil defenders would acknowledge Charley Rosen is Phil's "mouth piece".
knicks definitely at crossroads  
PhilSimms15 : 1/16/2017 11:23 am : link
They either finally, trade Melo, even for pennies on the dollar and get to the real job of rebuilding through young players, draft picks, a style of play that best fits KP, or continue to kow tow to Melo which means 3 more years of mediocre play at best.

Melo is clearly aging and his window is coming to a close. They need Melo to save the Knicks from themselves and realize if he wants a shot at the playoffs, let alone a title, he needs to move now.

Knowing this franchise though, Dolan will fire Jackson and make Melo the President/GM and Point Guard.
From  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:23 am : link
2015 (just confirming how close Phil/Rosen are)
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This  
Jon in NYC : 1/16/2017 11:24 am : link
is big news:

Jonah Ballow
‏@jonahballow
If @kporzee can go today, hell move to the 5 & Melo to the 4 per Jeff Hornacek. #NYKvsATL #Knicks
So  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:26 am : link
72 million Noah is now a bench player lolz
I imagine  
Jon in NYC : 1/16/2017 11:26 am : link
Lance takes Noah's spot when healthy. Could be Justin Holiday in the interim.

I like it. Most dynamic scoring front court in the league. Will they be able to defend anyone though.
Lets  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:28 am : link
all partake in the fantasy GM Lebron pushes the Cavs to give up 2 1sts for Derrick Rose ala Mozgov deal.
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Jon in NYC : 1/16/2017 11:29 am : link
In comment 13328179 DanMetroMan said:
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72 million Noah is now a bench player lolz


There's no sugar coating that, but I do like the idea of Noah captaining a 2nd unit group with Jennings and a bunch of guys that will make hard cut and defend.
RE: DX  
Deej : 1/16/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13328158 DanMetroMan said:
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just updated their top prospects and perfectly on cue with how things go for the Knicks they have the top 3 players all being PG's and 4 out of the top 6. The debate over Fultz, Ball, Smith should be very intriguing. I suspect Fultz's upside is too immense to not have him go #1.


There are a lot of teams between us and one of those elite picks right now, though not as many as it seems. We're currently the #12 pick, but the only teams that are totally "gone" are the botton 3 in the East -- Philly, Miami, and BK (and there is some chance that Philly finishes strong with Simmons and solving the C logjam). ORL is 1.5 games behind us. The whole bottom of the West is within 5 games of us, with several much closer. Lots of teams out West could finish decently -- SAC, NO, MN all have superstars, Dal should get Dirk back, and the Lakers, Suns, and Nuggets have talent.
I  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:30 am : link
don't want KP playing. He came back once and the pain returned. The mere fact they aren't "sure" means he should sit. In fact, I'd have him sit one extra game beyond them being sure.
A  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:32 am : link
lot of people are really falling in love with Ball. I prefer Fultz because he has that kind of "wowzas" upside but it seems like Ball has a lot of fans.
Knicks  
Jon in NYC : 1/16/2017 11:32 am : link
have too many guys to finish any worse than 8-15. We won't be an elite elite guy.

But that's okay. The guy I want is OG Anunoby.
Great  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:33 am : link
news, Lance Thomas to miss at least a week.
Fox  
dep026 : 1/16/2017 11:33 am : link
should be the number 1 pick. He reminds me of a cross between Harden and Westbrook.
Melo at the 4  
Deej : 1/16/2017 11:34 am : link
I know Im a Melo defender, but I think more time at the 4 should do wonders for his game. It doesnt address his injuries and rapidly declining athleticism, but in the current NBA Melo is simply not a 3. He's been out of position since we got KP. The 2 seasons before his injury campaign of 2014-15, Melo played PF 66% of the time. Since KP was drafted, he's played PF just 27% of the time.
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Deej : 1/16/2017 11:35 am : link
In comment 13328194 DanMetroMan said:
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don't want KP playing. He came back once and the pain returned. The mere fact they aren't "sure" means he should sit. In fact, I'd have him sit one extra game beyond them being sure.


I think he should sit even when he is ready. There is literally nothing to play for right now. Why risk it?
RE: Melo at the 4  
Jon in NYC : 1/16/2017 11:35 am : link
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I know Im a Melo defender, but I think more time at the 4 should do wonders for his game. It doesnt address his injuries and rapidly declining athleticism, but in the current NBA Melo is simply not a 3. He's been out of position since we got KP. The 2 seasons before his injury campaign of 2014-15, Melo played PF 66% of the time. Since KP was drafted, he's played PF just 27% of the time.


This x1000

There's a reason Olympic Melo is amazing and NBA Melo can't be traded. He's a dynamic offensive PF. What current starting PF can guard him with any regularity?
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nygiants16 : 1/16/2017 11:38 am : link
In comment 13328200 Deej said:
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I know Im a Melo defender, but I think more time at the 4 should do wonders for his game. It doesnt address his injuries and rapidly declining athleticism, but in the current NBA Melo is simply not a 3. He's been out of position since we got KP. The 2 seasons before his injury campaign of 2014-15, Melo played PF 66% of the time. Since KP was drafted, he's played PF just 27% of the time.


melo should embrace being the 4, milsap plays the 4 full time and they have the same body...

and here is a crazy thought start jenningd and let him be the distributor and rose can just concentrate on scoring, let baker be the point off the bench..

if you cant stop trams might as well try to outscore them...

bench would be baker, holiday kuz oquinn noah
This  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:41 am : link
draft truly looks loaded. Even down to late lottery you see really intriguing names like Hartenstein (BJ Armstrong client), Rabb etc
Reason why Melo isnt a 4  
dep026 : 1/16/2017 11:42 am : link
is because KP is. I dont think KP makes for a good 5.
Spoke too soon?  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 11:43 am : link
Jonah Ballow ‏@jonahballow 49s50 seconds ago
Jonah Ballow Retweeted Jonah Ballow
I should clarify that lineup is only a possibility for today. Still waiting on KPs availability & starters to be announced.
RE: Spoke too soon?  
nygiants16 : 1/16/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13328227 DanMetroMan said:
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Jonah Ballow ‏@jonahballow 49s50 seconds ago
Jonah Ballow Retweeted Jonah Ballow
I should clarify that lineup is only a possibility for today. Still waiting on KPs availability & starters to be announced.


i think he is saying it is a possibility if kp is available..

if he isnt noah would obviously start
Cavs Warriors tonight @ 8.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2017 11:44 am : link
Can't wait.
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nygiants16 : 1/16/2017 11:45 am : link
In comment 13328221 DanMetroMan said:
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draft truly looks loaded. Even down to late lottery you see really intriguing names like Hartenstein (BJ Armstrong client), Rabb etc


it is why i didnt mind the knicks going for it, because they are going to add a good player regardless of where they draft, just have to be smart
RE: Cavs Warriors tonight @ 8.  
dep026 : 1/16/2017 11:45 am : link
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Can't wait.


Cavs arent playing well right now. Warriors will have some pep in their step. Take the Warriors.
no kp today  
nygiants16 : 1/16/2017 11:48 am : link
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giantsfan44ab : 1/16/2017 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13328197 Jon in NYC said:
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have too many guys to finish any worse than 8-15. We won't be an elite elite guy.

But that's okay. The guy I want is OG Anunoby.


OG is still really really raw for my tastes. Upside is obviously high but I still think he needs another year or two in school ala oladipo. If he develops a handle like Oladipo did his junior year he can be a top 10 pick the following year.

Right now the guy I want is dwayne bacon. He's like Jaylen Brown if Brown was a knockdown shooter. Really like his upside. I'm suspecting Malik monk won't make it past the 5th pick at this rate.
Ugh  
ryanmkeane : 1/16/2017 12:16 pm : link
KP out again? Is this a serious issue?
.  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 12:22 pm : link
Yikes  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 12:22 pm : link
very sorry for the picture size guys
That's great if true.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2017 12:24 pm : link
Play the guys who'll leave it all on the court, and that includes Noah.
DMM, thanks, re. Rosen  
ColHowPepper : 1/16/2017 12:24 pm : link
this franchise, lol, what a disaster
Of course Rose's inclusion  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2017 12:25 pm : link
negates that.
surprised lee is coming off the bench  
nygiants16 : 1/16/2017 12:25 pm : link
msybe hornacek thinks micing everybody up will help
RE: Of course Rose's inclusion  
dep026 : 1/16/2017 12:30 pm : link
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negates that.


Melo is starting too, remember.
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bceagle05 : 1/16/2017 12:32 pm : link
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negates that.



Melo is starting too, remember.


At least Melo's always in the building at tip off.
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dep026 : 1/16/2017 12:38 pm : link
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negates that.



Melo is starting too, remember.



At least Melo's always in the building at tip off.


Haha, good point. Sometimes though he purposely checks out... haha
Rose had a heart to heart with coach about defense...  
GiantsUA : 1/16/2017 12:42 pm : link
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Come on MAN!!!
Ron Baker and Kuz....  
Heisenberg : 1/16/2017 1:24 pm : link
wish I could watch it, lol.
RE: Rose had a heart to heart with coach about defense...  
Deej : 1/16/2017 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13328362 GiantsUA said:
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Come on MAN!!!


Rose has a big fucking mouth about coaching for a guy who didnt even bother to show up for a game this week.
Melo  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 2:07 pm : link
17 in the first half including a buzzer beater 3
RE: Melo  
Deej : 1/16/2017 2:10 pm : link
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17 in the first half including a buzzer beater 3


Sucks
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dep026 : 1/16/2017 2:12 pm : link
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17 in the first half including a buzzer beater 3



Sucks


lol, and you call my act old....haha

I bet the Knicks to win today. Hope Melo goes for 50!
Rose a turnover machine so far.  
yatqb : 1/16/2017 2:13 pm : link
And no one has lateral movement on defense.
Haven't watched today  
giantsfan44ab : 1/16/2017 2:25 pm : link
Does Atlanta have a center without Dwight howard? Looks like they are alternating between Milsap and humphries at center...WTH??? How are we up only one??
Wow  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2017 2:25 pm : link
Pathetic effort by Noah
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