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JPP to Dallas?

jintsmcgee : 1/16/2017 11:40 am
I thought about this yesterday after watching Dallas pass rush.
They need a good one and JPP may be it. Carl Banks also mentioned something about it this a.m. on WFAN. What do you guys think?
Cowboys can't afford him  
rdt288 : 1/16/2017 11:41 am : link
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And it would make me physically sick
We'd franchise him again before letting that happen.  
yatqb : 1/16/2017 11:41 am : link
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Dallas is 5.5M  
Jon in NYC : 1/16/2017 11:41 am : link
OVER the cap right now.

They have some issues to resolve before offering anyone anything.
They are 5 million  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/16/2017 11:41 am : link
above the CAP. How are they going to get under and afford JPP?
JPP  
stretch234 : 1/16/2017 11:41 am : link
They will have a hard enough time paying who they have and restructuring that they are not bringing in JPP
JPP  
jintsmcgee : 1/16/2017 11:45 am : link
Thanx for clarification....I didn't realize the Dallas cap situation
correction  
giants#1 : 1/16/2017 11:52 am : link
They are $5M over the projected cap. The final numbers can certainly come in above the level projected by the various cap sites (it did last year by several million). But the Cowboys would have quite a bit of maneuvering to do to fit JPP under (restructures for Frederick/Smith, extend/cut Witten, cut Free, etc). They also have several of their own D starters to re-sign including 3/4s of their starting secondary (Church, Claiborne, Carr).

I'd be more worried about several other teams "stealing" JPP:
Browns - simply due to the astronomical cap space they have. They could easily blow away any FA they want and offer several million more than anyone else.
Bucs - lots of space, team is on the rise
Jags - tons of space, obviously the TC connection
Raiders - D lacks talent outside of Mack, would form an awesome DE pair. SB contender this year if Carr doesn't break his leg so JPP could get paid and have a legit chance at another title.

Obviously many other teams will be interested, but all the above are projected to have >$50M in cap space and the latter 3 are also on the rise.
No way  
Sammo85 : 1/16/2017 11:53 am : link
They can't even afford to keep Leary the OG. Even if they move Romo they still have a huge dead money hit on the cap. They need to address their secondary which I think is a big issue for them more than DL.

I think a team that needs a two way DE and has lots of cap space will go too rich for our blood.
If he doesn't stay in NY,  
MOOPS : 1/16/2017 12:19 pm : link
he's going to Florida.
RE: If he doesn't stay in NY,  
Howyadoin : 1/16/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13328315 MOOPS said:
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he's going to Florida.


Absolutely
You're obviously not very intelligent  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/16/2017 12:23 pm : link
if you think this was an appropriate thread title.
We SLAP the tag on JPP  
Stan in LA : 1/16/2017 12:28 pm : link
And collect two 1's from any team trying to steal him.
RE: If he doesn't stay in NY,  
RobCarpenter : 1/16/2017 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13328315 MOOPS said:
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he's going to Florida.


+1.
that would be  
BIGbluegermany : 1/16/2017 12:54 pm : link
an absolute nightmare!!!!
Put the tag on him while negotiating a long term deal.  
Tom in NY : 1/16/2017 12:55 pm : link
JPP was badly missed during his absence, and forms a great combo with OV.

If they want to win a championship before Eli is done, retaining JPP is vital.
Florida has NO state income tax  
MarvelousMike : 1/16/2017 12:59 pm : link
Going here would earn JPP even more $$$
JPP  
old man : 1/16/2017 1:00 pm : link
is willing to give a discount,on top of a h-t discount, feeling guilty about 7/4.
The dollar value is the X. Giants would have to hardline at a low number for him to walk.
And Dallas is the wrong part of the south; think reunion.
I can see Atlanta trying to get him to pair with Beasley  
superspynyg : 1/16/2017 1:13 pm : link
They have the best offense. All major players are signed and they have 26 mil in cap space.
Haha, JPP to Dallas  
jcn56 : 1/16/2017 1:17 pm : link
They'd just have to trade away all this year's draft picks and cut down another $10M in salary, not to mention let all their pending FA's walk.

That would work out just great for them I guess.
projected 32 Million in cap  
est1986 : 1/16/2017 1:30 pm : link
Tag Pierre-Paul for 16 Mil

16 Million in cap

Cut Cruz save 7.5 Mil
Cut J.T save 3 Mil
Cut Jennings save 2.5 Mil
Cut Vereen save 3.75 Mil

32.75 Million in cap

Hankins?
OL?
#2 WR?
Rookies/Depth

More cuts, re-works, extensions etc. change everything

I think just writing that  
RobCrossRiver56 : 1/16/2017 1:37 pm : link
should get you banned.

RE: projected 32 Million in cap  
giants#1 : 1/16/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13328438 est1986 said:
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Tag Pierre-Paul for 16 Mil

16 Million in cap

Cut Cruz save 7.5 Mil
Cut J.T save 3 Mil
Cut Jennings save 2.5 Mil
Cut Vereen save 3.75 Mil

32.75 Million in cap

Hankins?
OL?
#2 WR?
Rookies/Depth

More cuts, re-works, extensions etc. change everything


I'd be surprised if both Jennings and Vereen are cut. That would leave Perkins, Darkwa and Winn as the only RBs on the roster and while I like Perkins, the other 2 are really 3rd/4th RBs at best. So you'd need to either spend a relatively high (3rd/4th round) pick on another RB or sign another vet which will likely eat up most, if not all, of the savings from cutting the player (or sign a vet and use a pick).

Hankins will be interesting. One thing to keep in mind is the Dallas OL/running game. They signed Snacks because this D was getting gashed by average running games in 2015 and Dallas has arguably the best ground game in the league. So they might not want Bromley/Thomas/draft pick facing off against Zach Martin/Travis Frederick twice a year even with Vernon/Snacks and (hopefully) JPP flanking them.
We'd be crazy not to tag JPP  
NoGainDayne : 1/16/2017 1:56 pm : link
any deal he gets on the open market we will deem as too rich.

Hankins we actually have a shot at meeting in the middle considering his injury problems and talent surrounding him allowing him to succeed IMO.

Tag him and use it as leverage to get a reasonable long term deal or deal him.
RE: You're obviously not very intelligent  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/16/2017 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13328326 Mike in Long Beach said:
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if you think this was an appropriate thread title.

Was the question mark confusing?
RE: You're obviously not very intelligent  
David in LA : 1/16/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13328326 Mike in Long Beach said:
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if you think this was an appropriate thread title.


If you think Chip Kelly isn't a sound mind, when BB picks his brain, then you're obviously not very intelligent.
How much cap room would the Cowboys save when they trade Tony Romo?  
allstarjim : 1/16/2017 2:51 pm : link
Probably a lot.
RE: How much cap room would the Cowboys save when they trade Tony Romo?  
giants#1 : 1/16/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13328592 allstarjim said:
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Probably a lot.


$5M
RE: Florida has NO state income tax  
WillVAB : 1/16/2017 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13328391 MarvelousMike said:
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Going here would earn JPP even more $$$


Not that much more relatively speaking. Probably like 600k.

As a player you pay taxes in each state you play games in.
RE: RE: How much cap room would the Cowboys save when they trade Tony Romo?  
allstarjim : 1/16/2017 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13328595 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13328592 allstarjim said:


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Probably a lot.



$5M


Wrong answer
RE: RE: RE: How much cap room would the Cowboys save when they trade Tony Romo?  
giants#1 : 1/16/2017 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13328681 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13328595 giants#1 said:


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In comment 13328592 allstarjim said:


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Probably a lot.



$5M



Wrong answer


Sorry, $5.1M.
http://overthecap.com/2017-potential-cuts-quarterback/
Jacksonville would most likely be his landing spot  
Simms11 : 1/16/2017 3:46 pm : link
IMO. Would TC look to outbid NY for his services? Interesting thought.
JPP will be going to the highest bidder, which won't be the Giants....  
Doomster : 1/16/2017 11:42 pm : link
If they tag him, it will be a bad investment in cap dollars....JPP's sack totals are not that great, and they come in bunches against poor OL's...and there is the question, can he stay on the field?

JPP knows this is his last big contract,,,,,we can't afford him....
'JPP to Dallas?'...  
Torrag : 1/16/2017 11:50 pm : link
...never going to happen. The Giants will do what they need to retain their contractual rights to JPP. Which means applying a tag if a deal doesn't get done. Even if it's a temporary negotiating tactic or a harbinger of a trade to come.

Either way he isn't going to the Cowboys. No way, no how. He'll be re-signed or shipped out of the division.
RE: Jacksonville would most likely be his landing spot  
Optimus-NY : 1/17/2017 10:24 am : link
In comment 13328719 Simms11 said:
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IMO. Would TC look to outbid NY for his services? Interesting thought.


Absolutely. TC is now the enemy. He's trying to win. I don't blame him.
RE: RE: Jacksonville would most likely be his landing spot  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2017 10:36 am : link
In comment 13329368 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 13328719 Simms11 said:


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IMO. Would TC look to outbid NY for his services? Interesting thought.



Absolutely. TC is now the enemy. He's trying to win. I don't blame him.


Bye-bye..
RE: RE: Florida has NO state income tax  
MetsAreBack : 1/17/2017 10:45 am : link
In comment 13328652 WillVAB said:
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In comment 13328391 MarvelousMike said:


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Going here would earn JPP even more $$$



Not that much more relatively speaking. Probably like 600k.

As a player you pay taxes in each state you play games in.



Is 600K not a lot of money anymore, especially to guys with careers of ~10 years max? It's a bullshit hole in the system i wish every league would correct (by adjusting salary caps to reflect cost of living)
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