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Chip Kelly Interviewing for OC at JAX

BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/16/2017 1:56 pm
I guess Coughlin liked Chip'a offense.
He offered him a job  
Joey in VA : 1/16/2017 2:00 pm : link
A few years ago and Kelly went somewhere else, I think to Oregon to be the OC.
Jville  
old man : 1/16/2017 2:00 pm : link
Has some nice, YOUNG O weapons, and mucho dinero to buy lots of fill in talent to be good quickly.
A non TC move but great for the team, if the personality fits in.
Wasn't  
area junc : 1/16/2017 2:01 pm : link
Coughlin trying to get Chip Kelly on his Giants staff too?
that would be interesting  
giants#1 : 1/16/2017 2:01 pm : link
Wonder how much the offense would be a hybrid of Kelly's and Marrone's.
Chip  
mdthedream : 1/16/2017 2:01 pm : link
is probably better off be a offensive coordinator.
RE: He offered him a job  
Chris in Philly : 1/16/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13328491 Joey in VA said:
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A few years ago and Kelly went somewhere else, I think to Oregon to be the OC.


He was still in New Hampshire when he turned Coughlin down I believe. Respkt?
I truly don't understand why NFL teams continue to be interested.  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/16/2017 2:05 pm : link
He is a gimmick coach. Plain and simple. What he does is not something you can expect to sustain success in the pros.
If You Can Beat 'Em...  
Jim in Tampa : 1/16/2017 2:06 pm : link
Have him join you ;>)
RE: I truly don't understand why NFL teams continue to be interested.  
Chris in Philly : 1/16/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13328501 Mike in Long Beach said:
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He is a gimmick coach. Plain and simple. What he does is not something you can expect to sustain success in the pros.


Bill Belichick disagrees with you. He has picked Kelly's brain on numerous occasions.
RE: I truly don't understand why NFL teams continue to be interested.  
Josh in the City : 1/16/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13328501 Mike in Long Beach said:
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He is a gimmick coach. Plain and simple. What he does is not something you can expect to sustain success in the pros.


This is simply not true. He's a very creative coach who tried some new things in the NFL...some that stuck and some that didn't. By all accounts, he's also very intelligent and will most likely learn from his experience and continue to get better as a coach. I wouldn't write him off at all yet and if he becomes a coordinator in the league, I expect him to eventually become a great one.
He can't run a team  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2017 2:18 pm : link
or be involved in business decisions but he can definitely get more out of players than most coaches can, he's proven that. If his sole responsibility it to run the offense I think he can do a good job. I wonder who in college has reached out to him and whether an NFL OC is his best option right now.
I will say this  
NINEster : 1/16/2017 2:21 pm : link
Kelly from the gate has created some pretty impressive game plans to start games.

14-0 lead on Dallas with Gabbert.

14-0 lead on Tampa.

He got shut down and lost those games, so maybe his adjustment ability is garbage or Kap is only a first half QB.

But he's a sharp guy within the context of getting guys open.

The all shotgun all the time is a big issue, but for an uptempo offense he has the goods.
Kelly's Major Flaw is PACE, Not Scheme  
Rafflee : 1/16/2017 2:34 pm : link
His Offense is creative and geared to mismatching players in space--- and guys who like to play with Speed in Space are greatly enhanced in his offense.

The big flaw is the 8-15 seconds per play....give yourself a turnover and 1-2 3 and outs, and you wear out your own defense.

His secondary flaw is Roster Composition and player selection...that would be out of his control
RE: RE: He offered him a job  
Joey in VA : 1/16/2017 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13328497 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 13328491 Joey in VA said:


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A few years ago and Kelly went somewhere else, I think to Oregon to be the OC.



He was still in New Hampshire when he turned Coughlin down I believe. Respkt?
justa kid fer crissakes?
RE: I will say this  
giants#1 : 1/16/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13328533 NINEster said:
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Kelly from the gate has created some pretty impressive game plans to start games.

14-0 lead on Dallas with Gabbert.

14-0 lead on Tampa.

He got shut down and lost those games, so maybe his adjustment ability is garbage or Kap is only a first half QB.

But he's a sharp guy within the context of getting guys open.

The all shotgun all the time is a big issue, but for an uptempo offense he has the goods.


Hard to learn much from his SF stint due to the crap he had at QB. With the limited offseason practices, it's also hard to install a new scheme in only one year (especially with Kaep as your QB).
I'm curious  
BlackLight : 1/16/2017 3:31 pm : link
who was Jacksonville's 'Rooney Rule' candidate? It seemed like they interviewed Coughlin first, and then next I heard, they had hired Marrone.
that Rooney rule is obsolete, it's actually insulting  
gtt350 : 1/16/2017 4:17 pm : link
to African American coaches imho
TC  
blue42 : 1/16/2017 6:26 pm : link
coached against Kelley so there must be something he liked about Kelly's offense.
In order for Chip Kelley's offense to work  
SJGiant : 1/16/2017 6:32 pm : link
And not kill the defense, the first 3 plays in a series cannot be hurry up in 15 seconds or less. After 3 plays, your defense could be rested a little and then it might work.
The backstory is TC wanted to bring Kelly on as an offensive assistant  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/16/2017 6:49 pm : link
years before he had ever become a big name coach.


And yes, Belichick also consulted him for offensive ideas.
JAX Defensive Coordinator  
Suburbanites : 1/16/2017 6:59 pm : link
I bet their DC is rooting against this. His scheme exhausts his own teams defense. Chip will always be okay in my book though after visiting Victor Cruz in the hospital the night he suffered that devastating injury. That was an all-time classy move.
Tyrone Wheatley will be the new running backs coach.  
Diver_Down : 1/16/2017 9:16 pm : link
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I doubt Kelly  
Ron Johnson 30 : 1/16/2017 9:33 pm : link
would run the exact same offense as an OC.
Honestly expected Jerald Ingram would get the job.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/16/2017 9:36 pm : link
I can't say I understand why he was let go.
RE: that Rooney rule is obsolete, it's actually insulting  
BlackLight : 1/16/2017 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13328759 gtt350 said:
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to African American coaches imho


I agree. I'm just curious who they interviewed.
RE: Kelly's Major Flaw is PACE, Not Scheme  
BillKo : 1/17/2017 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13328556 Rafflee said:
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His Offense is creative and geared to mismatching players in space--- and guys who like to play with Speed in Space are greatly enhanced in his offense.

The big flaw is the 8-15 seconds per play....give yourself a turnover and 1-2 3 and outs, and you wear out your own defense.

His secondary flaw is Roster Composition and player selection...that would be out of his control


It's definitely pace. However, I will say his scheme won't work at the NFL level without pace, IMO.

Additionally, a system that doesn't allow your QB to change plays at the LOS and evaluate what's going on (or utilize cadence).....simply isn't going to work at crunch time, or in the long run.

It will, however, beat up on weaker teams. Which is exactly what Chip did in Philly.
RE: RE: I truly don't understand why NFL teams continue to be interested.  
BillKo : 1/17/2017 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13328514 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 13328501 Mike in Long Beach said:


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He is a gimmick coach. Plain and simple. What he does is not something you can expect to sustain success in the pros.



Bill Belichick disagrees with you. He has picked Kelly's brain on numerous occasions.


Just because he picks his brain doesn't mean he agrees what he does in it's entirety. I am sure Kelly has some interesting concepts.

BB hurrying up at goal line offense is one of the the things he picked up from Kelly.

(However, I am not sure why teams panic in this situation, and simply just bulldoze the center before the snap to stop the play...what's the difference in half the distance to the goal from the one yard line?)
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