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NFT: Jack Capuano fired as head coach of the Islanders

Metnut : 1/17/2017 3:02 pm
Doug Weight to serve as interim head coach.

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Probably  
Metnut : 1/17/2017 3:03 pm : link
too late to save this season but with Philly's collapse, the Islanders are basically the 'Canes now for the last playoff spot. Something like 91-95 points might actually be enough.

Wow...it begins.  
pganut : 1/17/2017 3:03 pm : link
A little late, but the right move.

I guess the "swaggah" from yesterday's win wasn't enough to save Simple Jack.
Fucking  
KWhite2250 : 1/17/2017 3:12 pm : link
Finally!!!!!!
It had to be done. Long overdue as well.  
Dave M : 1/17/2017 3:13 pm : link
Now the architect of the leagues worst pp is our coach but hey you never know. Maybe without Cappy's influence he'll be competent.
Thank you sweet Jesus  
The 12th Man : 1/17/2017 3:13 pm : link
And here I thought I was having a horrible day, my heat went out, found out the car my daughter got into an accident with on Sat. (she walked away from it) got totaled, was told my son does not meet the state requirement for busing by .1 of a mile so they will not reimburse us. Then this happened maybe my luck is turning!
Terrible move  
YAJ2112 : 1/17/2017 3:13 pm : link
He was a great coach, no reason to let him go.
He beat John Hynes to the unemployment line  
Stu11 : 1/17/2017 3:14 pm : link
won't be by much if the Devils don't get going soon...
See what happens when you lose to the Canes?  
Jints in Carolina : 1/17/2017 3:14 pm : link
You get shit canned.
Gonna be awkward at breakfast at  
Deej : 1/17/2017 3:15 pm : link
Chateaux Snow
RE: See what happens when you lose to the Canes?  
Anakim : 1/17/2017 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13330051 Jints in Carolina said:
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You get shit canned.


Rangers lost to the Hurricanes! Grrr.
Wow  
MetsAreBack : 1/17/2017 3:17 pm : link
interesting timing considering they looked very good against Boston and Florida over the past week.
Coincidence maybe.  
Dave M : 1/17/2017 3:18 pm : link
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I feel like he never got ample time to build a good team.  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/17/2017 3:27 pm : link
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Well  
feelflows : 1/17/2017 3:33 pm : link
Maybe he will get 3 months rent free at Garth's.
Is Snow going to make him move out of the basement?  
arcarsenal : 1/17/2017 3:42 pm : link
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RE: Wow  
pganut : 1/17/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13330061 MetsAreBack said:
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interesting timing considering they looked very good against Boston and Florida over the past week.
2 wins amid a sea of rancid diarrrhea (see: losses to COL, AZ among many others) does not a job save. Poor job constructing lines over the years, an unfailing loyalty/reliance on vets over giving kids a chance, and the death knell of believing that said lackluster vets represented a better chance for the team to succeed if everyone stuck to "the system". Turning a speed/skill team into a bunch of grindahs and chasuhs robbed the team of its identity and success and was a losing "system".

I'm fine with Dougie Fresh as interim coach as long as it's tied to a sweeping change of the staff in the offseason. I'm just happy Cappy isn't around to ruin anyone that may come in a trade later on. I've also read some tweets that the entire staff, minors as well, is being looked at. Still scares me that Snow is at the controls as I really don't want him damaging the team further at the deadline. It would really be something if he steps down in tandem with Cappy's ouster.
About time  
JayBinQueens : 1/17/2017 4:10 pm : link
Think we'll return to the pesky team that didn't stop skating and had an awesome fore-check?
Finally  
DinDC : 1/17/2017 4:15 pm : link
7 weeks too late, but at least Flintstone is out.

No more shuffling lines 3 times a game. No more scapegoating young players and jerking them all around the lineup/press box. No more overplaying veterans based on nothing but veteranness.

I am less hopeful the systems will change under Weight. It would be amazing if they stop conceding the blue line.

The season has been over since Thanksgiving, and this is all meaningless unless Snow goes as well. I pray the ownership has a leash on him come trading deadline.
Sweet  
Patrick : 1/17/2017 4:24 pm : link
But can he please take Ladd with him?

Is Halak being groomed to replace Garth?
We are sucking due to the Power Play  
Mike in NY : 1/17/2017 4:35 pm : link
But by all means promote the guy responsible for the Power Play.
RE: We are sucking due to the Power Play  
Metnut : 1/17/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13330178 Mike in NY said:
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But by all means promote the guy responsible for the Power Play.


This makes perfect sense though. Now someone different will be in charge of the power play so it's bound to improve.
According to the ESPN article  
JayBinQueens : 1/17/2017 4:39 pm : link
Doug Weight is the Assistant GM too!?!?!?
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Weight has had that role since he retired  
DinDC : 1/17/2017 4:44 pm : link
it's not new
RE: Weight has had that role since he retired  
JayBinQueens : 1/17/2017 5:04 pm : link
In comment 13330196 DinDC said:
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it's not new

I always thought he was the assitant coach... whoops
I firmly believe Weight is just a placeholder  
pganut : 1/17/2017 5:06 pm : link
This was the first signal from Ledecky that the status quo is not acceptable.

Here are some tweets from the hockey universe I found interesting today:

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Rob Taub @RTaub_

Elliotte Friedman on NHLNetwork on Capuano:

-Want to get coaching search started early
-Owners knew fans getting restless
-Possible trades #Isles
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David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
Isles have been evaluating changes for weeks. Obviously first shoe to drop is Capuano, but told evaluation is at both NHL/AHL levels
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Staple on @NHLNetwork: I think the game on Saturday when the team were helpless in their own end, Ledecky and Snow sat together #Isles

I do believe a trade is coming, and today was the first, critical domino to fall.
RE: I firmly believe Weight is just a placeholder  
JayBinQueens : 1/17/2017 5:14 pm : link
In comment 13330230 pganut said:
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Rob Taub @RTaub_

Elliotte Friedman on NHLNetwork on Capuano:

-Want to get coaching search started early
-Owners knew fans getting restless
-Possible trades #Isles




Who do you guys think will be the most likely moved (or attractive options that Snow (if he's still GM)would listen to) and what do you think they're targeting?
RE: I firmly believe Weight is just a placeholder  
DinDC : 1/17/2017 5:22 pm : link
In comment 13330230 pganut said:
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I do believe a trade is coming, and today was the first, critical domino to fall.


The prospect of desperate Snow making maneuvers is terrifying.
His last 18 months have been awful.
I've said it before: good cap floor gm, atrocious cap ceiling gm.

Play out the string, let the new regime re make this shit show of a roster
I really don't like to speculate  
pganut : 1/17/2017 5:27 pm : link
Because it's spitballing that people take as gospel, but the current rumor (and I mentioned to some of our crew that I don't put much stock in it) is Pulock & Ho-Sang for Duchene or Landeskog. If that's legit (and I don't advocate trading Pulock, FWIW), I strongly prefer Landeskog. The Isles are supposedly "in talks" with 2 West teams, and I surmise COL is one of them.

As I said, I wouldn't want to trade Pulock at all, but I suppose if they did it's because they're encouraged with what they see from Pelech, to some degree Mayfield (although I don't think he's a long-term solution) and the fact that Toews has gotten rave reviews. Plus there's Quenneville and Wotherspoon that look promising, so I suppose we feel there's adequate depth to move someone.

To that end, if I had to take a stab at who might garner interest or be viewed as attractive in any moves (note: not all are centerpieces but could be used as part of a trade): F - Bailey (there are contenders that would love to have him as depth), Strome (although he'll be given a new lease on life without Cappy around), Nelson (although they'll see if he is energized by a Cappy ouster), Prince and BVR (although to me, he's off limits). D - Anyone not named Leddy. Unlikely Boychuk gets moved due to his contract and NTC, but Hammer (although unlikely given he's a heart-and-soul guy, but I'd move him in the right deal; in fact I'd rather move Hamonic than Pulock), CDH and Hickey would all be welcomed as 3rd pair depth for a team ascending/contending.
RE: RE: I firmly believe Weight is just a placeholder  
pganut : 1/17/2017 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13330253 DinDC said:
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The prospect of desperate Snow making maneuvers is terrifying.
This, x1000. I really hope there are some shackles placed on him by Ledecky/Malkin in these next couple of months. I prefer he not look to trade at this juncture to improve the team. OTOH, if others call to inquire about player availability, if it's a trade that benefits us short and long term, you have to listen. But he's scared me enough that I prefer to just ride this out and clean house in the offseason.
Is the assumption here that Snow isn't at risk after the season?  
BrettNYG10 : 1/17/2017 5:36 pm : link
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Garth Snow is God  
Rover : 1/17/2017 5:38 pm : link
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As it stands now,  
DinDC : 1/17/2017 5:41 pm : link
they are going to lose either CdH or Pulock to Vegas. That sucks. Much as I want Snow's keys taken away, trading a D would help. Boychuk's contract is prohibitive. Nobody is touching that. Leddy should be untouchable. That leaves Hamonic. He is righthanded and on a reasonable deal.
RE: Garth Snow is God  
DinDC : 1/17/2017 5:42 pm : link
In comment 13330273 Rover said:
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What's the crowd split among the voices in your head?
RE: Is the assumption here that Snow isn't at risk after the season?  
pganut : 1/17/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13330269 BrettNYG10 said:
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Can't imagine that's the case. With the closer hands-on observation in the past 2 months from Ledecky, also speaking to ownership/management of other teams around putting a first class front office structure together, Garth's feet just got a little closer to the fire today. I don't think the typical smugness we see from Garth will be of help to him nor viewed favorably by ownership. He's said the right things today, but he'll now be held accountable for making improvements. If not, he'll die by the sword based on his own comments today:
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“100 percent [the record is on me]. I don’t think there’s a player on our roster who’s had a hand in the drafting, picking up players off waivers, free agent signings, trades…not the trainers or staff. I’m not hiding from the fact that it starts with me.”
Thanks.  
BrettNYG10 : 1/17/2017 5:47 pm : link
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Here's the video & audio of Staple's interview on NHLN  
pganut : 1/17/2017 6:08 pm : link
From earlier this afternoon: Staple Discusses Capuano Firing
RE: About time  
KWhite2250 : 1/17/2017 6:10 pm : link
In comment 13330156 JayBinQueens said:
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Think we'll return to the pesky team that didn't stop skating and had an awesome fore-check?


This is why he should've been fired much sooner. We went from one of the most exciting teams to watch to a team that got dominated alot! Even though we won a playoff series finally, the panthers controlled the play the entire time. Unable to body them off the puck or clearing it out of the zone. Wtf were we doing the last 2 years?
I'm back in!!!!!!!!  
BlueHurricane : 1/17/2017 6:25 pm : link
FUCHYEAH!!!!!!!!!!
RE: I'm back in!!!!!!!!  
pganut : 1/17/2017 6:31 pm : link
In comment 13330320 BlueHurricane said:
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FUCHYEAH!!!!!!!!!!
Finally...now you can stop wrestling those midgets and get back to business!
I called for the firing of this shumuck since  
Renton : 1/17/2017 7:47 pm : link
they put up that half-ass, 11 shot performance in game 7 against the Caps. Typical BBI, I've been ostracized since then. It only happened this year when opinions changed.

That being said, it's about time. Except , in true Islanders fashion, this was handled poorly. If Fred was going, the jerkoff GM would have been included. Like many have conveyed, the current GM should not have any hand in the upcoming crucial decisions regarding a future coach or roster. This current roster of 3rd liners is up against the cap, and improvements are going to be extremely difficult. The owners should have constructed a real plan and dumped all the garbage in one swoop. So, now we are again left to watch some fool try to correct his own failure.
You think Wang would have done this?  
marbles : 1/17/2017 7:58 pm : link
Thankfully the Islanders finally have owners who plan on running a professional franchise.

Now, we can just wait for the magical day when that egomaniacal gasbag, otherwise known as Garth Snow, walks the plank.
I'll miss the J.C. Penney suits  
bxgiants4 : 1/17/2017 8:08 pm : link
And the ridiculous haircut
FINALLY !!!  
steviej : 1/17/2017 8:09 pm : link
SHOULDVE BEEN DONE 3 WEEKS AGO !!
Word filtering out  
Renton : 1/17/2017 8:22 pm : link
that Snow will be selecting the new coach, work hand & hand with Ledecky. Sorry people, Snow, the architect of this pile of puke, will most likely remain. It makes me think the new owners are just as stupid as the previous owner.
I've see. Via twitter  
Fish : 1/17/2017 9:48 pm : link
Isles permission to talk with Gallant. Isles need permission because gallant still under contract with Florida even though he was fired.

Also see trade rumors with Florida and Colorado. No names flying
I'll take a pass on Gallant  
pganut : 1/17/2017 10:00 pm : link
Don't see him as all that different than Capuano. Keep Weight for now and get a guy you really want after the season. They need to determine which route they want to go from a philosophy perspective. Commit to a college coach or young AHL mind, or go for the established coach. Take the time to make the right call, IMO.
the fact that it appears Snow will be allowed  
DinDC : 1/17/2017 10:39 pm : link
to begin the interview process is disconcerting to say the least.

Agree about Gallant. More old school retreads are not exciting. Still holding out hope for Krueger.

RE: RE: I'm back in!!!!!!!!  
BlueHurricane : 1/17/2017 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13330327 pganut said:
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In comment 13330320 BlueHurricane said:


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FUCHYEAH!!!!!!!!!!

Finally...now you can stop wrestling those midgets and get back to business!


Wrestling midgets always 1st but I will definitely free up some time for the Isles now.

I did listen to the Panther game on the drive back from a match at Lycoming College on Friday night. Got to hear the Tavares hat trick while passing the time.

Really blows that we all know this needed to be done a year+ ago.
Wait out the season.  
Patrick : 1/18/2017 7:53 am : link
Barring a miraculous run here, which is a very safe bet, patience is the best course.

First step hire a new President and let him hire a GM.
Let the GM hire a coach.

I'd like to see them bring in Scott Stevens behind the bench.
RE: Wait out the season.  
Patrick : 1/18/2017 7:55 am : link
Only meant wait out season for a permanent coach. I'd like to see a new front office asap.


In comment 13330735 Patrick said:
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Barring a miraculous run here, which is a very safe bet, patience is the best course.

First step hire a new President and let him hire a GM.
Let the GM hire a coach.

I'd like to see them bring in Scott Stevens behind the bench.
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