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Meet Forrest Lamp

ryanmkeane : 1/20/2017 2:36 pm
Thought this was a great read, and especially this part:

Film preparation is a substantial key to preparing for such challenges.
"First thing I look for is scheme and tendencies of the defense," Lamp said. "The second thing is I look at the individual player. In pass protection, Tim Williams and Jonathan Allen are two completely different players. And my pass-set depends on who I'm going against.
"With Williams, I know I'm going straight back versus his speed. With Allen, I can go with more of a vertical set because he's more of a power guy and I need to protect versus the bull rush. Watching film and knowing your opponent are the most important traits to being successful in pass protection."

Depending on what we do with FA, would love this kid in the 1st!
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I have been persuaded  
bigblue12 : 1/20/2017 2:40 pm : link
and would love to slide him in at guard for the next 10 years. With that said, the Giants have not shown the propensity to draft smaller school guys in round 1.
RE: I have been persuaded  
ryanmkeane : 1/20/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13334211 bigblue12 said:
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and would love to slide him in at guard for the next 10 years. With that said, the Giants have not shown the propensity to draft smaller school guys in round 1.

They also tend to go for cleaner prospects in rounds 1 and 2 these days. This would be similar to the Pugh pick - draft him and put him anywhere on the OL day 1.
Absolutely true  
bigblue12 : 1/20/2017 2:56 pm : link
It seems as if there is a very low floor on this guy. With what they hope to be a playoff team, to get a potential day 1 starter and really good player right off the bat makes a ton of sense. With that said, they usually go for the really high upside, big school, big measureable type of player.
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Greg from LI : 1/20/2017 2:57 pm : link
I confess  
Diver_Down : 1/20/2017 2:57 pm : link
Arguably the best OL in the draft  
sjnyfan : 1/20/2017 3:02 pm : link
Look at his games against LSU in 2015 and Alabama this past season. I'd prefer to move Flowers to RG but if we don't and we don't sign one through FA I'd have no problem drafting him at 23. He's a Day 1 starter.
He's good  
Sy'56 : 1/20/2017 3:33 pm : link
He's not Zach Martin.
The only way I approve of this  
pjcas18 : 1/20/2017 3:35 pm : link
is if he can get at least one carry in the open field so the announcers can say "Run Forrest Run"
RE: I have been persuaded  
Blackbeard : 1/20/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13334211 bigblue12 said:
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and would love to slide him in at guard for the next 10 years. With that said, the Giants have not shown the propensity to draft smaller school guys in round 1.


Does the name Phil Simms ring a bell? :-)
That was 38 years ago  
bigblue12 : 1/20/2017 4:18 pm : link
and a different regime.
Umm...  
lugnut : 1/20/2017 4:55 pm : link
drafting an OG at #23 is insane. I don't care who it is.

How about at #245 (7th Rd), Greg Pyke, OG, Georgia? Ascending, named most improved player by his team twice. Plays the right side on a team that historically has been able to run very well.
23  
pjcas18 : 1/20/2017 5:03 pm : link
isn't bad for a guard.

I'm sure the Cowboys have zero regrets about Zack Martin and he went well before 23.

Giants drafted Pugh at 19.

and Redkins drafted Scherff at 5. Pugh and Scherff weren't slated to be guards but I doubt either team really regrets the pick and you know the Cowboys don't regret Martin.

Sure it would be better to get a guard later, but I don't think any team would sweat it taking a guard at 23 if that's their highest rated player at a position of need.


Here's a thread on Lamp  
EddieNYG : 1/20/2017 6:44 pm : link
I started a couple days ago.

Just thought it would be good to link both threads.

I think Lamp and Dan Feeny are in play at 23, depending on what we do in free agency of course.
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RE: Umm...  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/20/2017 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13334451 lugnut said:
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drafting an OG at #23 is insane. I don't care who it is.

How about at #245 (7th Rd), Greg Pyke, OG, Georgia? Ascending, named most improved player by his team twice. Plays the right side on a team that historically has been able to run very well.

Guards are criminally undervalued on BBI (except when ours suck, of course). With the more pass-friendly NFL, and our short-drop passing game (which depends heavily on timing), the most disruptive place for pressure to happen is right up the middle. And if you want a successful running attack, you need good guards.

I know the conventional wisdom is that guards can be found later in the draft, but I'd counter with three points:

1) the 23rd pick is only 11 picks higher than where Chris Snee was selected (not a throwaway variance, but not wildly incomparable)

2) if you could identify a single player, regardless of position, who could help Eli set his feet more comfortably AND help the running game, would you willingly dismiss them for any reason?

3) assuming that you agree that the Giants need an upgrade at RG, do you think that the first round pick is more or less efficient, in terms of allocation of resources, than a lucrative free agent contract?
"Mama always said life is like a box of chocolates.  
David B. : 1/20/2017 9:26 pm : link
You never know what you're gonna get."
Nice little clip  
bigblue12 : 1/20/2017 9:30 pm : link
Showing his great feet and balance
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