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Anakim : 1/21/2017 11:27 am
Begins at 3:00 PM on NFL Network



A couple of guys I will be keeping a close eye on:


QB Gunner Kiel of Cincinnati. You guys want a backup QB/potential successor to Eli? Kiel isn't likely to be the latter, but could very well be the former. He was the top-rated HS PP coming out of high school. He has AMAZING arm talent. He can make any throw. The main problems though are inconsistency and MAJOR injury problems. Still, he's likely to go undrafted so what could it hurt to sign him up?



RB Joe Williams of Utah was discussed in a previous thread (there's no way he's going in the first round. Might not even go on Day 2), but he's a very good in-between the tackles runner. He breaks a lot of arm tackles and actually, in that regard, he reminds me of Paul Perkins.


WR Trey Griffey of Arizona - he's the son of Ken Griffey Jr. I don't know if he gets drafted, but he has very good size and very good speed. The production wasn't there and he had some foot problems, but the potential is of course there.

WR Jalen Robinette of Air Force - never saw him play, but had a great week apparently and he's 6'4. That's enough for me to be curious.


TE Eric Saubert of Drake - he reportedly was the best player during practices. For a team that needs a TE, I think the Giants took notice. I've never seen him play so I'm excited to see him today.


DE Deatrich Wise Jr. of Arkansas - one of "my guys." Had a down senior year, but was fantastic last year, accumulating 8 sacks (I believe 7 or all may have been towards the end of the year and ALL were against SEC opponents). He has amazing length (arms like vines), great athleticism and great size (6'6, 270). I can't wait to see how he does today and right now, he's slated to go in my mock in the fourth round.
Will any of these guys also partake  
The_Boss : 1/21/2017 12:09 pm : link
In the Senior Bowl? Or is that not allowed?
RE: Will any of these guys also partake  
Anakim : 1/21/2017 12:18 pm : link
In comment 13334847 The_Boss said:
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In the Senior Bowl? Or is that not allowed?


It's allowed. Some talent have already been "called up" to participate. I don't know which ones off-hand though.
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The_Boss : 1/21/2017 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13334852 Anakim said:
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In comment 13334847 The_Boss said:


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In the Senior Bowl? Or is that not allowed?



It's allowed. Some talent have already been "called up" to participate. I don't know which ones off-hand though.

Thanks man. I'll be watching later
A few East/West Shrine  
Big Rick in FL : 1/21/2017 12:27 pm : link
Players were called to the Senior Bowl. Here are the 3 who are going to the Senior Bowl.

De'Veon Smith RB Michigan
Jalen Robinette WR Air Force
Kyle Kalis OL Michigan
What is the deal with these players  
robbieballs2003 : 1/21/2017 12:35 pm : link
From the armed forces? Do they have to serve? I know some have been allowed to play in the nfl but I don't know the details. I am asking because that wr is very intriguing.
a friend of mine  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2017 12:50 pm : link
is a quasi-scout and he loves Robinette.

thinks he's one of those players who could go from day 3 fodder to day 2 steal pretty quickly with post-season workouts/games and combine.

How do air force players work with their military commitment? do the get it deferred until after their NFL career?

This guy seems to me like Ramses Barden 2.0, but we'll see.
RE: a friend of mine  
Jay on the Island : 1/21/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13334879 pjcas18 said:
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is a quasi-scout and he loves Robinette.

thinks he's one of those players who could go from day 3 fodder to day 2 steal pretty quickly with post-season workouts/games and combine.

How do air force players work with their military commitment? do the get it deferred until after their NFL career?

This guy seems to me like Ramses Barden 2.0, but we'll see.

I believe the military recently allowed players to play for their NFL teams during the season but they must report immediately after the season ends. They then spend the majority of the offseason honoring their commitment.
If anyone has their heart set  
Jay on the Island : 1/21/2017 2:15 pm : link
on the Giants using a 1st round pick on a TE I think they will be disappointed. If a I think Reese will stick with his usual draft strategy and take a raw TE like a Saubert in the the mid to late rounds. As we all know Reese is very patient with his draft picks and I believe he intends on giving Jerell Adams this year to see if he develops into the complete TE that he is capable of becoming. I think the first and second round picks will end up being an OT, DE, G, WR, or CB.
I  
AcidTest : 1/21/2017 2:30 pm : link
wouldn't draft Kiel. He's at best a backup. Resign Johnson to do that. Either draft a QB you think can start, or don't do it. And this is a bad year for QBs. It's OK to wait until 2018 to look for Eli's successor.
Anak -  
Diver_Down : 1/21/2017 3:13 pm : link
On the 4th down at the goal line was that Snacks Jr.? I don't know my college players, but the guy is a beast.
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Joey in VA : 1/21/2017 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13334977 Diver_Down said:
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On the 4th down at the goal line was that Snacks Jr.? I don't know my college players, but the guy is a beast.
I had the exact same thought, that guy plays low and is a bull to handle.
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Diver_Down : 1/21/2017 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13334982 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 13334977 Diver_Down said:


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On the 4th down at the goal line was that Snacks Jr.? I don't know my college players, but the guy is a beast.

I had the exact same thought, that guy plays low and is a bull to handle.


Apparently, it was DeAngelo Brown from Louisville. Different sites have him pegged in the 5th round.
Diver  
Joey in VA : 1/21/2017 3:48 pm : link
Makes sense, Snacks went undrafted. I'm not seeing much in this game, some pretty bad play so far
Overall, the gameplay is pretty meh.  
Diver_Down : 1/21/2017 3:57 pm : link
I just like to focus in on specific position groups to get a feel for some of the players that will be talked about in the coming months.
I Don't Get The NFL Network Channel  
Jim in Tampa : 1/21/2017 4:09 pm : link
Can anyone tell me if Trey Griffey has his helmet on backwards?
this game is dreadful  
Jints in Carolina : 1/21/2017 5:39 pm : link
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Joey in VA : 1/21/2017 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13335038 Jints in Carolina said:
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Dreadful is insulted by that.
I almost stabbed my eyes out  
Diver_Down : 1/21/2017 5:53 pm : link
to quit watching. Instead of trying to key in on position groups and find some prospects, I wound up realizing that most of these players flat out suck.
RE: I almost stabbed my eyes out  
Jints in Carolina : 1/21/2017 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13335044 Diver_Down said:
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to quit watching. Instead of trying to key in on position groups and find some prospects, I wound up realizing that most of these players flat out suck.


Just an awful display.
Jints -  
Diver_Down : 1/21/2017 6:01 pm : link
I tried to remain positive and endured the entire game instead of just changing the channel. But some of these players should be ashamed at what they put on film today.
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Anakim : 1/21/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13334995 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 13334977 Diver_Down said:


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On the 4th down at the goal line was that Snacks Jr.? I don't know my college players, but the guy is a beast.

I had the exact same thought, that guy plays low and is a bull to handle.



Apparently, it was DeAngelo Brown from Louisville. Different sites have him pegged in the 5th round.


I noticed him too. He was listed at what? 315? Looks a lot heavier than that
Scouts watch the practices  
B in ALB : 1/21/2017 10:00 pm : link
and don't put a ton of stock in the game.

Tannak should know that.

The matchups and drills during the week are much more important. Almost like a mini combine, especially when they're in shells or pads.

The Game is an afterthought.
Really proud of the way Deatrich Wise Jr. played today  
Anakim : 1/21/2017 10:07 pm : link
Still have him slated in my mock in the fourth round
RE: Really proud of the way Deatrich Wise Jr. played today  
Boy Cord : 1/22/2017 12:15 am : link
In comment 13335158 Anakim said:
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Still have him slated in my mock in the fourth round


You have referenced your mock on several occasions. Can you share it with us? I know. I must have zero going on in my life if I want to see your mock, but WTH.
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