Just looking at the FAs of 2017...
Besides Zak DeOssie needing a new contract and the obvious need of a cover LBer, the thing that stuck out to me was that beyond Apple, Jenkins, and DRC, we don't have any CBs on the roster (unless you count Donte Deayon and Michael Hunter from the PS).
Are there any draft picks or FAs you guys think we may, should, or could target?
That isn't the case. When drc signed cap experts looked at his contract and figured he would be cut going into 2017 especially after the drafting of Apple. Now, that seemed to change based on drcs play. I highly doubt he'll be cut to save money. He's worth the extra money spent
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... people want us to cut DRC.
That isn't the case. When drc signed cap experts looked at his contract and figured he would be cut going into 2017 especially after the drafting of Apple. Now, that seemed to change based on drcs play. I highly doubt he'll be cut to save money. He's worth the extra money spent
His play was never in doubt. He has been a stud since the day he arrived here. There was speculation about him not playing through some injuries.
I agree completely. Wade and Sensabaugh are both close to 30 already too (I was surprised by that; I thought Sensabaugh was younger than that, but he turns 29 in November; Wade turns 28 in August). And I don't think Hall showed enough to warrant a second shot.
I think it makes sense to go younger in FA, UDFA, and late round picks for depth. Thankfully, we have the best CB trio in the division by far (maybe the whole NFC).
I don't know names of guys who might be good targets though.
I hope they do move on from Wade. Enough already. He did make a few plays but he made more bad ones and is constantly beaten in coverage.
They may have DRC, Apple and Jenkins, but they need a true slot guy.
I hope they do move on from Wade. Enough already. He did make a few plays but he made more bad ones and is constantly beaten in coverage.
They may have DRC, Apple and Jenkins, but they need a true slot guy.
What you said about Wade could be said about Hall. Hall missed 4 weeks because they gave up on him in the slot and decided to put him at FS. He was serviceable there, but he's toasted. I'd look elsewhere.
DRC plays the slot now. They need any CB bodies. Jenkins and DRC both went out and showed how good depth would be a huge value. These guys who are FAs struggled as a whole.
Sensabaugh make the cut though, barely...
We also need a free safety.....there is no guarantee that Darian can stay on the field.....there better be a better backup plan in place than Adams, who was just a body out there.....Berhe and the other Thompson, are not the answer....You replace Hall if someone beats him out for the position(backup).....
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I disagree about Hall. I think he should be used mostly in the exotic dime packages and as a safety otherwise. He made big plays this season despite being inactive a bit because of reasons we haven't heard from.
I hope they do move on from Wade. Enough already. He did make a few plays but he made more bad ones and is constantly beaten in coverage.
They may have DRC, Apple and Jenkins, but they need a true slot guy.
What you said about Wade could be said about Hall. Hall missed 4 weeks because they gave up on him in the slot and decided to put him at FS. He was serviceable there, but he's toasted. I'd look elsewhere.
DRC plays the slot now. They need any CB bodies. Jenkins and DRC both went out and showed how good depth would be a huge value. These guys who are FAs struggled as a whole.
The only bad play I recall Hall did in the 2nd half when he was playing FS was the angle on the TD pass to Brown that he got just barely over Jenkins. It could've been an easy pick.
But his negatives were nowhere even close to Wade's.
When I look back on '16, none of these guys disturbed me. They all contributed toward wins . Wade made a big special teams miscue in the loss to the Redskins. However, that loss was basically entirely on Eli. Wade was also awful against the Vikings but he had plenty of company in that game.
I like Wade as a player. He has a ton of heart. With that said, it is just a bad fit for us right now. We need to improve on the athletic ability. Playing man coverage is very easy mentally as opposed to knowing zones and route concepts. So, it should be easier to find a player with some skill than can provide us more skill at the position.
Sensabaugh may have a good skill set but appeared slow to react. Is the allure here that he got a hefty contract from another team? Played better late in the year. Was he slow to learn assignments? Probably okay to sign for one or two year contract at fair price but look for a replacement quickly.
Wade was shaky and inconsistent. Did he mprove a lot in second year with team? If not, move on.
To say one player cost a team the game seems short sighted, weren't you a coach?
I don't think they want him cut so much as they believe he might be cut.
Imo DRC really took ownership of the slot role, and at this point I think the Giants will keep him in that role.
As others have said, what they need is depth beyond the big 3. Perhaps a vet. Drafting another CB somewhere in the range of round 3 to 5 wouldn't surprise me either.
Nobody wanted to cut him. Speculation about him as a cap hit due to his age, him always being banged, and cap hit up made that a topic. Sadly even w limited snaps he got dinged in he most important game of the year. For all the questions about Apple if the Giants don't pick him that D wouldn't have. Deb nearly as good. DRC isnt going anywhere this year.
As much as we need help on O, I could see us drafting a CB as early as the 2nd round as a way to acquire DRC's eventual replacement.
Same kind of dog, just with different fleas...
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I disagree about Hall. I think he should be used mostly in the exotic dime packages and as a safety otherwise. He made big plays this season despite being inactive a bit because of reasons we haven't heard from.
I hope they do move on from Wade. Enough already. He did make a few plays but he made more bad ones and is constantly beaten in coverage.
They may have DRC, Apple and Jenkins, but they need a true slot guy.
What you said about Wade could be said about Hall. Hall missed 4 weeks because they gave up on him in the slot and decided to put him at FS. He was serviceable there, but he's toasted. I'd look elsewhere.
DRC plays the slot now. They need any CB bodies. Jenkins and DRC both went out and showed how good depth would be a huge value. These guys who are FAs struggled as a whole.
The only bad play I recall Hall did in the 2nd half when he was playing FS was the angle on the TD pass to Brown that he got just barely over Jenkins. It could've been an easy pick.
But his negatives were nowhere even close to Wade's.
Hall had some blown coverages at FS. But comparing him at FS rather slot CB versus Wade isn't valid imo. Hall was worse than Wade in the slot by far. And I also thought Adams was better at FS than Hall.
Hall had two big plays (the FF and pick - which would have been had by Jenkins if he wasn't in the area because the throw was so bad), but other than that, he was noticeable for his mistakes. Adams wasn't. And Wade for the most part was a more solid contributor than Hall overall.
I was hoping this wouldn't be a shit on Wade thread, but any time his name comes up, people jump on that. I was hoping people would discuss FAs and draft picks. Guess that's too much to ask for.
It's not so much want as there's very clearly been smoke from the team, dating back to last offseason, that it's a real possibility for whatever reason.
It's something that should be taken into consideration when discussing what the team will or should do this year.