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Rodgers lays another egg

weeg in the bronx : 1/22/2017 6:35 pm
Outplayed by Palmer last year, under 200 yards against Hawks in 14 and 49ers the year before that, an average game against 49ers in 12 and of course outplayed by Manning in 11. Yeah he's great but he's gotten a bit of a pass with now 5 years in a row of season ending marginal to bad performances.
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RE: RE: RE: BB  
rocco8112 : 1/22/2017 7:32 pm : link
In comment 13336045 Cruzin said:
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Rodgers didn't drop 6 passes.
Rodgers didn't fumble to be recovered by Atlanta in the end zone
Rodgers didn't not recover a fumble on defense that was right in his hands
Rodgers didn't drop 2 easy INTs

Nelson with broken ribs, Adams with a bad ankle, Allison with the hammy

Rodgers did have the flu this week

If you think this game was lost because of a poor performance by Aaron Rodgers all I can say is "I thought you gave up drinking years ago?"



At the end of the day. The Pack took the L.

Again, it is hard to win teo Super Bowls. Hard to win a road conference title game. Takes a very special QB and team.



I'm not sure of your point rocco. Rodgers is arguably the best QB in the history of the game. Certainly top 2 in the league.


No doubt, great player, good enough this year to lead his squad to a title game defeat.

I was just pointing out how difficult it is to win two titles. To win road playoff games as an underdog.

Rodgers stil has time to achieve that feat, some QB's already have.
Oh, I get it  
Cruzin : 1/22/2017 7:35 pm : link

You're an Eli homer.

I didn't know.
RE: Oh, I get it  
rocco8112 : 1/22/2017 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13336054 Cruzin said:
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You're an Eli homer.

I didn't know.


Just pointing out some facts.

Just having fun, I enjoy rooting against Rodgers so I really enjoyed the game today. Is that such a crime? Worked out perfect since they took out the Cowboys and went home today. Played out the way I wanted it too.
two of the dumbest posts  
bluepepper : 1/22/2017 7:38 pm : link
in BBI's history just minutes apart - this one and the guy who's never been more disappointed in any player in any sport in his life then OBJ vs GB.
Rodgers  
WillVAB : 1/22/2017 7:45 pm : link
Is not the best QB or top 3 all-time. I think he's comparable to Steve Young in a ton of ways. Still very good and potentially HoF, but the love is a little over the top.

Today wasn't his fault but he didn't help much either. Yes the WRs were banged up, but he still had a very good OL, Cobb, Cook, and Montgomery before it got out of hand. Nelson and Adams still made plays. GB defense is bad but ATL isn't much better. GB needed Rodgers to have a good day and he just wasn't at his best.
This thread is so stupid  
speedywheels : 1/22/2017 7:48 pm : link
Like a Stan in LA type of stupid.

His "defense" gave up 44 fucking points.

In addition to points made by other posters, the fact was he got his team in FG position (only to miss), and also drove his team down the field only to see his fullback fumble on the fucking 1 yard line.

And yet, Rodgers somehow laid an egg.

Holy shit....
RE: Rodgers  
David in LA : 1/22/2017 7:49 pm : link
In comment 13336086 WillVAB said:
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Is not the best QB or top 3 all-time. I think he's comparable to Steve Young in a ton of ways. Still very good and potentially HoF, but the love is a little over the top.

Today wasn't his fault but he didn't help much either. Yes the WRs were banged up, but he still had a very good OL, Cobb, Cook, and Montgomery before it got out of hand. Nelson and Adams still made plays. GB defense is bad but ATL isn't much better. GB needed Rodgers to have a good day and he just wasn't at his best.


Potentially HOF? He could walk away today and still get in.
He absolutely is a great QB but absolutely  
JCin332 : 1/22/2017 7:52 pm : link
deserves some heat for this game...as fiddy 6 said most of his stats were in garbage time...

He also was whining to the refs and threw up his hands on the sidelines after the long TD to Jones...can't do that kind of stuff when you are behind...

He did take some hellacious hits but nothing like Eli in 2011 NFC Championship game...

And he had a pretty good running game down the stretch converted WR or not...

In fact his own season turned around earlier in the year when they started to run the ball...
RE: Rodgers did nothing int he NFc title game when they  
djm : 1/22/2017 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13335990 rocco8112 said:
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won it all too. If I am not mistaken that was the game when they beat the bears with a third string Qb after Cutler tapped out three minutes in or something.

I also think the biggest score of that game was a pick six by a nose tackle or something. Rodgers got carried in that title game and failed in his other two attempts.

Some guys rise up for the big game, others do not.

Thanks for beating the Cowboys though.


Dude... are you actually implying that Rodgers is not one of the best qbs going and one of the best qbs to ever play the game. If you are, you're lost. And this coming from someone who thought Rodgers lost a little on his fastball the last two years. He got it back and then some these last three months. Amazing player.
Ok, so the most vocal critics  
David in LA : 1/22/2017 7:54 pm : link
seems to stem from needing to defend Eli. This place is the most fucking insecure place at times.
RE: Ok, so the most vocal critics  
JCin332 : 1/22/2017 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13336106 David in LA said:
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seems to stem from needing to defend Eli. This place is the most fucking insecure place at times.


Just go away please...
My comment must have hit a little too close to home  
David in LA : 1/22/2017 8:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: Rodgers did nothing int he NFc title game when they  
rocco8112 : 1/22/2017 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13336105 djm said:
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won it all too. If I am not mistaken that was the game when they beat the bears with a third string Qb after Cutler tapped out three minutes in or something.

I also think the biggest score of that game was a pick six by a nose tackle or something. Rodgers got carried in that title game and failed in his other two attempts.

Some guys rise up for the big game, others do not.

Thanks for beating the Cowboys though.



Dude... are you actually implying that Rodgers is not one of the best qbs going and one of the best qbs to ever play the game. If you are, you're lost. And this coming from someone who thought Rodgers lost a little on his fastball the last two years. He got it back and then some these last three months. Amazing player.


Rodgers is a great QB, and he was good enough this year to bring his squad to the NFC title game and made some great plays doing it.

I like watching him lose because it is annoying to hear that he is "from a higher league" or " he is going things on a field never seen before" and so on. Fun watching them get their ass kicked and him complaining and bitching the whole game. Also entertaining to see the excuse parade. So, when they win it is all superman Rodgers, but when they get run out of the stadium it is the shitty supporting cast.

Guy is a great QB no doubt about it.

Well I am an Eli lover and think he is great  
montanagiant : 1/22/2017 8:16 pm : link
But I have no idea how anyone can dog Rodgers today for that loss
I thought he actually played  
dep026 : 1/22/2017 8:40 pm : link
very well?

Seems like an odd thread to me.
Did You Want Rodgers to Play DB?  
Samiam : 1/22/2017 8:40 pm : link
Atlanta scored 44 points.
RE: RE: Rodgers  
WillVAB : 1/22/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13336094 David in LA said:
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Is not the best QB or top 3 all-time. I think he's comparable to Steve Young in a ton of ways. Still very good and potentially HoF, but the love is a little over the top.

Today wasn't his fault but he didn't help much either. Yes the WRs were banged up, but he still had a very good OL, Cobb, Cook, and Montgomery before it got out of hand. Nelson and Adams still made plays. GB defense is bad but ATL isn't much better. GB needed Rodgers to have a good day and he just wasn't at his best.



Potentially HOF? He could walk away today and still get in.


Ok I guess, but he's not a lock best QB all time or top 3 all time.

His offense didn't do shit today until mid way through the 3rd quarter vs a suspect defense. He deserves some criticism.
Well..  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/22/2017 8:59 pm : link
There is a grey area between "played very well", and "lays an egg", there lies the truth.

Also, one can say Rodgers did not play particularly well today, but still feel that he is a very good player, and that he was not the root cause of their failure today.

Why must everything be black and white?

As for the "best player ever" stuff, it's not an argument worth having. What's next? Are we going to discuss who would win a fight between Captain America and Batman?
RE: Two best receivers were playing hurt  
santacruzom : 1/22/2017 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13335922 jlukes said:
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No running game
and possibly the worst defense in the NFL giving him no chance

Do not see how you blame Rodgers here


I see how he does it. Where there's a will, there's a way!
Rodgers looked like no Hall of Fame lock against the Giants.  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 1/22/2017 9:00 pm : link
The Packers, remember, ended each of their first five drives in the first half with a punt. They could not convert on third down. The peak of the game for Giants' fans may have been when a shaky Rodger was penalized for intentional grounding.

That's what a relentless pass rush, supported by good coverage can do against any quarterback.

Unfortunately the Packers got a short field on their sixth possession and took three plays to score. Then right at the half came the "Hail Mary." Not surprising that a young team with little playoff experience would give way.

If the defense had not been missing two of the "golden seven," JPP and DRC out, Snacks, Vernon, Jackrabbit, Collins and Apple in, the defensive collapse in the 2nd half might not have occurred.

The offensive bungling, even more than usual, could be partly blamed on the playoff inexperience of that group. In fact on the general inexperience of those players playing together as a unit against anyone.

If management does not bungle this offseason, the Giants will beat the Packers next year.
RE: Well..  
WillVAB : 1/22/2017 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13336209 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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There is a grey area between "played very well", and "lays an egg", there lies the truth.

Also, one can say Rodgers did not play particularly well today, but still feel that he is a very good player, and that he was not the root cause of their failure today.

Why must everything be black and white?

As for the "best player ever" stuff, it's not an argument worth having. What's next? Are we going to discuss who would win a fight between Captain America and Batman?


This is pretty much how I see it.
Actually, Batman vs Cap would be a good fight  
Cruzin : 1/22/2017 9:25 pm : link

but that wouldn't really encapsule Rodgers since neither Batman or Cap are "elite".

If you're talking Aaron Rodgers you'd be better off mentioning Thor vs The Hulk.

You could save the Batman vs Captain America comparison for Eli and whomever...
It's not one game  
weeg in the bronx : 1/22/2017 9:26 pm : link
It's five years where he is outplayed in big games. Yet he always gets a pass. That's what drives me crazy.
How can anyone  
ryanmkeane : 1/22/2017 9:34 pm : link
watch that game and lay ANY blame on Rodgers? He was near perfect with every throw that he made. You guys are fucking pathetic.
Haha  
ryanmkeane : 1/22/2017 9:35 pm : link
"potentially HOF Rodgers"...are people actually this stupid?
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JesseS : 1/22/2017 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13335941 jamesmichaelworm said:
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one of the most dynamic stretches of QB play the league has ever seen.

A 'pass' isn't required.


That's if you completely ignore what Matt Ryan has done over the same stretch


Come on.........

Freeman and Coleman

and some guy named Julio Jones..........

RE: How can anyone  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/22/2017 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13336282 ryanmkeane said:
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watch that game and lay ANY blame on Rodgers? He was near perfect with every throw that he made. You guys are fucking pathetic.


Near perfect with every throw? Really? That's about as ridiculous a statement as saying he "layed an egg". He most certainly was not "near perfect with every throw". The hyperbole here is getting absurd.

But keep acting like a manchild though, it really inspires people to value your opinions.
If I recall  
GiantsGorilla1980s : 1/22/2017 10:03 pm : link
The packers had no running game when they won it all in 2010 Brandon Jackson was their starting running back most of that year. No excuses. The packers still have a lot of talent on that offense even with their depleted running back situation
RE: If I recall  
arcarsenal : 1/22/2017 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13336350 GiantsGorilla1980s said:
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The packers had no running game when they won it all in 2010 Brandon Jackson was their starting running back most of that year. No excuses. The packers still have a lot of talent on that offense even with their depleted running back situation


That's not true. James Starks was a rookie that year and emerged down the stretch and ran pretty well through their playoff run.
RE: How can anyone  
WillVAB : 1/22/2017 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13336282 ryanmkeane said:
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watch that game and lay ANY blame on Rodgers? He was near perfect with every throw that he made. You guys are fucking pathetic.


Lol! How the hell were they scoreless until mid way through the 3rd quarter then?
RE: Ok, so the most vocal critics  
dep026 : 1/22/2017 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13336106 David in LA said:
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seems to stem from needing to defend Eli. This place is the most fucking insecure place at times.


Not me!!!! See I am growing as a poster!
To address the OP  
NINEster : 1/23/2017 1:04 am : link
Cardinals, Seahawks, 49ers, Giants all had real defenses, with pretty good offenses.

This year, there was no real defense except the Giants & Seahawks....but those teams didn't have the level of offense to be better.

Looking at the big picture, this was the best opportunity for the Packers to go to the Super Bowl in a long time.

The year he won the Super Bowl, the NFC opponents were Philly, Atlanta, Chicago who weren't special in any way.

To Rodgers credit he probably carries the Packers more than any other QB carries their team in the NFL. When the Packers get a real ground game and/or defense, I'll be the first to call them an SB favorite.

RE: Well..  
giantgiantfan : 1/23/2017 2:28 am : link
In comment 13336209 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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There is a grey area between "played very well", and "lays an egg", there lies the truth.

Also, one can say Rodgers did not play particularly well today, but still feel that he is a very good player, and that he was not the root cause of their failure today.

Why must everything be black and white?

As for the "best player ever" stuff, it's not an argument worth having. What's next? Are we going to discuss who would win a fight between Captain America and Batman?


Well Superman would beat both of them, so that's a really dumb question to begin with. People sometimes...
Jordy Nelson made my all-Googs team yesterday  
Jimmy Googs : 1/23/2017 7:48 am : link
quite the effort...
Tough crowd (OP)  
Jesse B : 1/23/2017 8:30 am : link
287 yards a passing, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 46 yards ushing. Stats are generally misleading but "lays an egg" certainly is a gross overstatement.
RE: Jordy Nelson made my all-Googs team yesterday  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2017 8:35 am : link
In comment 13336504 Jimmy Googs said:
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quite the effort...


2 weeks off broken ribs?

Very weird way to view his performance.
RE: RE: Jordy Nelson made my all-Googs team yesterday  
Jimmy Googs : 1/23/2017 8:37 am : link
In comment 13336542 UConn4523 said:
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quite the effort...



2 weeks off broken ribs?

Very weird way to view his performance.


How so?
He didn't play well, BUT  
Section331 : 1/23/2017 8:55 am : link
his receivers dropped 5 passes in the first half. I think those might have changed the course of the game. He was missing 2 OL for much of the game, and his defense just totally sucked ass. I think it may be time to put Dom Capers out to pasture.
If the Giants  
HBart : 1/23/2017 8:57 am : link
Took advantage of what the D and Eli did early our game might have looked similar to yesterdays. Could have easily been Giants up 20-0 at the half and who knows what happens from there.
Too many injuries for GB.  
Johnny5 : 1/23/2017 9:36 am : link
He can only win so many games by himself. What is really sad? Their defense is awful... REALLY JUST AWFUL... and they completely and utterly shut down the Giants offense.

Well at least my gag reflex is working. *SIGH*
RE: If the Giants  
Big Blue '56 : 1/23/2017 9:42 am : link
In comment 13336576 HBart said:
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Took advantage of what the D and Eli did early our game might have looked similar to yesterdays. Could have easily been Giants up 20-0 at the half and who knows what happens from there.


Best post on here, imo..

Rodgers was beaten to a pulp until the Hail Mary changed everything, an incredible emotional swing for both teams, even if we were only down 14-13 in the 3rd..We had that swing in 2012 division playoff..It just caught up to us a little later than it did the Pack in 2012..

Rodgers is a first ballot HOFer imo..If he had Eli's OL this year, he may not have made it through the season. Of course, being able to run as he does is a big advantage over Eli (to have)..
rocco  
djm : 1/23/2017 10:06 am : link
it's annoying at times sure...but you can hang your hat on the fact that the Giants have gotten the better of Rodgers as much as any other team going. He won the last round...hopefully he has to come to JErsey in the NFC 2017 playoffs.

The one team I am really getting tired of is the fucking Pats. Can some team from the AFC East RISE UP JUST FUCKING ONCE and win that division? The Jets, Bills and Dolphins should be ashamed of themselves. I would be embarrassed if I rooted for any of them. Win a fucking division just once in a decade for fucks sake.
Last year's offense  
Bubba : 1/23/2017 10:06 am : link
with this years's defense the Giants would have beaten them easily. Against us the Packs were able to gamble more on offense because they knew our O could not match up in a shoot out which also made their defense look better.
RE: rocco  
Big Blue '56 : 1/23/2017 10:12 am : link
In comment 13336684 djm said:
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it's annoying at times sure...but you can hang your hat on the fact that the Giants have gotten the better of Rodgers as much as any other team going. He won the last round...hopefully he has to come to JErsey in the NFC 2017 playoffs.

The one team I am really getting tired of is the fucking Pats. Can some team from the AFC East RISE UP JUST FUCKING ONCE and win that division? The Jets, Bills and Dolphins should be ashamed of themselves. I would be embarrassed if I rooted for any of them. Win a fucking division just once in a decade for fucks sake.


I no longer make the weak division argument as the Pats have been shown to do well outside the division..But, it's sure nice as hell to have a perpetual bye 3-4 games into the regular season virtually year in and year out
I stated this  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/23/2017 10:19 am : link
elsewhere, but this is now the third time Rodgers has been eliminated in playoffs where his opponent scored at least 44 points. Over his 7 career playoff losses, his opponents average 36.3 points per game.

For context, in Brady's entire regular season and playoff career, his opponents have NEVER scored 44 points and have only scored 36 or more points 7 times.

QB's only have so much control over a game's outcome. Blaming Rodgers after seeing the state of his offense and defense doesn't seem to make any sense to me.
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Sonic Youth : 1/23/2017 10:42 am : link
In comment 13335960 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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The packers are winning we don't mention anything about the talent around him. Because he seems to have a ton. And one of the best lines in football.



He has a converted WR running the football. Don't make up a narrative for the sake of arguing.
I agree with your side of the argument and general sentiment, but I think Ty Montgomery is actually better suited to be an RB than a WR, and he played RB in college at times. I wouldn't be surprised if they moved him to WR full time.
2 straight drives  
old man : 1/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
over 50 yards end in:
1 Missed FG by a guy that hasnt missed in a while, and
1 fumble at about the opponent's 3,making 10-10 instead of a demoralized 0-10,could have changed the tone of the game into a shootout.
The D gave up so many 3rd and >5, especially on Out routes plus 3rd and 1s where they had guy stopped but someone Falcon would run up behind the RB and give the final push to get the 1st(something I often see our OL NOT do).
As much as I am not all caught up with AR, he did what he could.
FWIW He took 2 late hits that our D would be draped in yellow for, with a shoulder shrug from officials.
Britt in VA said  
JerseyCityJoe : 1/23/2017 2:42 pm : link
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but the guy did put the team on his back, win 7 in a row to even make the postseason, KO'd us, then went to #1 seed Dallas and whipped them, too


Right on point.
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Gatorade Dunk : 1/23/2017 2:48 pm : link
In comment 13335971 jamesmichaelworm said:
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The packers are winning we don't mention anything about the talent around him. Because he seems to have a ton. And one of the best lines in football.



He has a converted WR running the football. Don't make up a narrative for the sake of arguing.

montgomery has more 100 yds games prolly more catches and more tds than our rbs I'm sure of it

What's "prolly"?
RE: RE: Ok, so the most vocal critics  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/23/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13336119 JCin332 said:
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seems to stem from needing to defend Eli. This place is the most fucking insecure place at times.



Just go away please...

He's not wrong. Read the thread.
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