that Luke dies somehow, after training Rey, and the Rebellion (or whatever it's called now, the name is slipping my mind)/main characters each a similar nadir as the end of EOSB.
the red lettering. As far as I can tell, no Star Wars movie title has had that red outline in the logo.
Here is the official announcement:
They've hinted at it being darker and more serious which it shares with Empire but that the story arc is definitely different. The red letters are definitely on purpose.
or it's a very Luke-centric story explaining the Jedi's fall (again) along with the rise of Kylo. Either way I think Rey ultimately is the "Last Jedi" and we will find out who her parents are a la Vader-Skywalker in Empire.
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
I think the movie is going to focus a lot on the backstory of how Kylo went to the dark side and why Luke went into exile. I think its literally going to be about "The Last Jedi" and why there isn't a new jedi order.
everyone stops complaining about how similar The Force Awakens was to A New Hope. Yeah. It was similar. I get it. Not a complete and total remake but it was similar.
That being said... it had some really marked differences that were very cool to the story.
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
that Luke dies somehow, after training Rey, and the Rebellion (or whatever it's called now, the name is slipping my mind)/main characters each a similar nadir as the end of EOSB.
Either way, super stoked.
Not necessarily. Jedi is both singular and plural. It could be referring to Luke. It could be referring to Rey. It could be referring to both. It could be referring to more Jedi we are not yet aware of.
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
What do you mean nobody can really see it? An actress was surprised that her dopey actor friends couldn't noodle through it? Every old nerd like me who grew up with Star Wars can see what they intended.
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
What do you mean nobody can really see it? An actress was surprised that her dopey actor friends couldn't noodle through it? Every old nerd like me who grew up with Star Wars can see what they intended.
Well, a lot of people out there don't think it's Luke, so....
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
She is not old enough to be Oni Wan's daughter. This is 30 years after Return of the Jedi, which was what, 5 years or so after Obi Wan died. she's not 35+ years old. If she is a Kenobi, it would have to be his granddaughter.
Good questions. Wonder if that was actually a grave stone where Luke was standing at the end of FA?
Hammill recently responded to this query with something along the lines of, "It just looked like a rock to me." But, he could also have been acting coy.
There are rumors of a Ewan McGregor Obi Wan franchise, which could fill in the blanks of those twenty years between 3 and 4, his love interests, etc.
This would be weak. Luke and Kenobi's daughter would be too easy. It would also be disappointing. I know they are ignoring the EU. But, if you are going to haqve Luke fall in love, Mara Jade would still make a much more interesting storyline than anything else.
And a lot of people do think it's Luke, I suppose it depends on perspective and what is meant by "a lot". Here's a far out idea, maybe she's a clone from Vader's DNA. After he was all toasted up, maybe Palpatine sent some genetic junk to Camino to make a copy just in case.
As an aside, Luke is supposed to be a real badass Jedi Â
in this film. Luke is said to be the most powerful Jedi ever and the rumors are that Luke and Rey battle the Knights of Ren at the outset of the next movie. Rey duels Kylo, while Luke takes on essentially the rest of them and he has some rather cool and powerful means of doing so.
that would be a big mistake IMO. As for Rey I really think that she is Luke's daughter. Luke, Anakin, and Rey all grew up on a dangerous desert planet. The lightsaber that once belonged to Anakin and Luke called out to her. She is also a great pilot like Luke and Vader.
And a lot of people do think it's Luke, I suppose it depends on perspective and what is meant by "a lot". Here's a far out idea, maybe she's a clone from Vader's DNA. After he was all toasted up, maybe Palpatine sent some genetic junk to Camino to make a copy just in case.
That has been speculated as a possibility. Also, a clone of Palpatine...or was that a theory for Snoke?
that Rey might just Kylo's sister, separated / protected / memory wiped by Luke when Kylo went after the academy? Although I guess her identity should / would have become obvious to Kylo and Snoke once she resurfaced with extraordinary latent Jedi talents.
that Rey might just Kylo's sister, separated / protected / memory wiped by Luke when Kylo went after the academy? Although I guess her identity should / would have become obvious to Kylo and Snoke once she resurfaced with extraordinary latent Jedi talents.
And you'd think Leia and/or Han would have acknowledged it.
there was a lot to like about TFA starting with the production and acting. Sure the story was familiar but that's the hand that's dealt when you are tasked with revamping a story 40 years later having to capture your existing fanbase as well as new. Its a continuation of the same story, its going to be pretty similar.
Over the weekend and loved it. Looking forward to this next movie. Count me as one who believes Rey is Luke's daughter though can't imagine who her mother is.
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there was a lot to like about TFA starting with the production and acting. Sure the story was familiar but that's the hand that's dealt when you are tasked with revamping a story 40 years later having to capture your existing fanbase as well as new. Its a continuation of the same story, its going to be pretty similar.
I gave them a pass on the plot of TFA for this reason. It was a safe play but probably the right one after Episodes I-III. But VIII and IX need to get back to the kick-ass story telling in addition to the high production value.
and Luke hid her on Jakku instead of trying to train her after he failed at training Kylo. Rey's fighting style even mirrors Palpatine's in the films. She's got some dark side anger and rage in her. Creates an interesting parallel with the OT and would be a cool reveal, if true.
and he left her and went into isolation to protect her location from her mother who is snokes daughter obsessed with progressing Vader's bloodline and the one who turned ben solo to the darkside.
RE: As an aside, Luke is supposed to be a real badass Jedi Â
in this film. Luke is said to be the most powerful Jedi ever and the rumors are that Luke and Rey battle the Knights of Ren at the outset of the next movie. Rey duels Kylo, while Luke takes on essentially the rest of them and he has some rather cool and powerful means of doing so.
Why would you want to know this?
I saw the last two movies knowing nothing going in and it was a real treat.
and he left her and went into isolation to protect her location from her mother who is snokes daughter obsessed with progressing Vader's bloodline and the one who turned ben solo to the darkside.
That's interesting.
Rey fights like Palpatine and Kylo Ren fights like Mace Windu Â
in this film. Luke is said to be the most powerful Jedi ever and the rumors are that Luke and Rey battle the Knights of Ren at the outset of the next movie. Rey duels Kylo, while Luke takes on essentially the rest of them and he has some rather cool and powerful means of doing so.
Why would you want to know this?
I saw the last two movies knowing nothing going in and it was a real treat.
I agree. Would be nice to speculate plot points (based on insider info or whatever) on a separate thread.
A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
and Luke hid her on Jakku instead of trying to train her after he failed at training Kylo. Rey's fighting style even mirrors Palpatine's in the films. She's got some dark side anger and rage in her. Creates an interesting parallel with the OT and would be a cool reveal, if true.
A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
Look at how they fight with the light sabers. Snoke also talks about utilizing both light and dark side, and Mace Windu's style is based off of using both the light and dark side.
Is a nod to Yoda's line from Return of the Jedi.."When gone am I..the last of the Jedi will you be".
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Snope tell Kylo Ren that Ren had to capture her, or "the new jedi would meet the last jedi?" Or something like that?
Look at how they fight with the light sabers. Snoke also talks about utilizing both light and dark side, and Mace Windu's style is based off of using both the light and dark side.
Yes, and there is nothing visually similar in those pairs.
A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
A) Who says Luke isn't allowed to marry? The Jedi order is long gone.
B) Possible
C) Also possible
D) Maybe she's a spawn of the force but has no true mother, you sexist.
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
I really, really hope she's not related to anyone. Enough of that played out plot device, already. I mean, are people really going to be wowed by yet another familial "revelation"?
But if she does have to be related to anyone...
...she's Ben's sister, Leia and Han's daughter. The only reason I can imagine for Leia blowing off Chewie and going straight to comfort Rey after Han's death. (WTF, J.J.?) Rey started learning to be a Jedi very young, and everything went haywire with Ben, so they separated Ben and Rey to protect Rey.
The original trilogy was a father/son saga, this trilogy is a brother/sister saga.
Just my theory, not a spoiled leak. (Again, hope I'm wrong.)
Rey being Luke's daughter would seem a bit clumsy. Who's the mom? Was Jedi Master Luke supposed to have kids? Why did he abandon her when the Jedi academy went wrong?
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
I really, really hope she's not related to anyone. Enough of that played out plot device, already. I mean, are people really going to be wowed by yet another familial "revelation"?
But if she does have to be related to anyone...
...she's Ben's sister, Leia and Han's daughter. The only reason I can imagine for Leia blowing off Chewie and going straight to comfort Rey after Han's death. (WTF, J.J.?) Rey started learning to be a Jedi very young, and everything went haywire with Ben, so they separated Ben and Rey to protect Rey.
The original trilogy was a father/son saga, this trilogy is a brother/sister saga.
Just my theory, not a spoiled leak. (Again, hope I'm wrong.)
Rey being Luke's daughter would seem a bit clumsy. Who's the mom? Was Jedi Master Luke supposed to have kids? Why did he abandon her when the Jedi academy went wrong?
Vader tried to make the Jedi extinct. Luke was all that was left. Perhaps he procreated to bring the Jedi back.
A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
Wouldn't C make Rey Leia and Solo's daughter?
Yes I think would.
Kylo Ren's spin move isn't at all like Mace Windu's? Â
A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
A) Who says Luke isn't allowed to marry? The Jedi order is long gone.
B) Possible
C) Also possible
D) Maybe she's a spawn of the force but has no true mother, you sexist.
Well lets not forget that Luke learned from Yoda, who probably told him the ways to the darkside, and how to "Return the Jedi". Also, Luke is the lamest hero in the trilogy up until "Return of the Jedi" and that being said he's a huge square. I mean he is a completely different self aware Jedi master in the 3rd movie, and he knows how to not become part of the dark side. I think he would obey the rules because he is just lame enough to do so.
I think that at some point during Star Wars VII, Kylo Ren was speaking to Snoke's hologram- didn't Snoke say something like Ren must stop Rey, or she will find the last jedi and the new jedi will arise? Or an I remembering that quote wrong?
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
Several have posited this.
Yeah I missed that thanks. Abrams has also said that her parents weren't in TFA so that would rule out Luke, Han, and Leia but he could have been deflecting.
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
Pretty sure I saw a documentary about two twins separated at birth, one grew up in the U.S. and one in the U.K. and they had different accents.
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
That does hold some merit because they did ask a number of British actors to change to an American accent and they did not for her. So who does that leave? Obi one and Palpatine?
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
Several have posited this.
Yeah I missed that thanks. Abrams has also said that her parents weren't in TFA so that would rule out Luke, Han, and Leia but he could have been deflecting.
NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
That does hold some merit because they did ask a number of British actors to change to an American accent and they did not for her. So who does that leave? Obi one and Palpatine?
Those are my guesses at this point. Though, sure, maybe it is Luke as the father and it's Rey's mother who had the accent.
That Snoke is Plaguis and even more far fetched that he hid as Jar Jar through the first few movies. It instantly makes those movies a million times more interesting although I know it's never going to happen.
I always found it interesting that in A New Hope, Leia affected a British lilt when speaking to Vader and Tarkin in their scenes. Nothing more than an observation, but I wondered why that was done. We know Bail Organa spoke American English, so other than being a Princess/Senator using a more proper or regal affect in the presence of the Empire, seems curious why Leia would do that.
with ANY British Joe Blow for all we know. Ill admit its pretty cool that it can go so many different ways. I think I LIKE the Palpatine theory the best.
More on Han and Leia possibility from a fan page.... Â
Rey is Han and Leia's daughter, a.k.a. Kylo Ren's sister. Kinda seems like the next obvious choice, that if she's not Luke's daughter, she's Leia's. Rey and Kylo—birth name Ben Solo—being brother and sister would certainly have more heft than a cousin v. cousin situation, but it's extremely suspicious that Han and Leia wouldn't betray this secret at all, either in private or around Rey. Han is visibly paternal toward her, though, and she rules at flying the Millennium Falcon. Kylo Ren also sneers that Han must seem like the father she never had. Here's Redditor JayMoots really bringing this theory home:
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
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Rey is Han and Leia's daughter, a.k.a. Kylo Ren's sister. Kinda seems like the next obvious choice, that if she's not Luke's daughter, she's Leia's. Rey and Kylo—birth name Ben Solo—being brother and sister would certainly have more heft than a cousin v. cousin situation, but it's extremely suspicious that Han and Leia wouldn't betray this secret at all, either in private or around Rey. Han is visibly paternal toward her, though, and she rules at flying the Millennium Falcon. Kylo Ren also sneers that Han must seem like the father she never had. Here's Redditor JayMoots really bringing this theory home:
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
Interesting, that might be plausible, as Kylo Ren is believed to me about 10-11 years older than Rey. Also when one of the Imperial officers informs Kylo that FN2187 escaped with the help of a girl, he reacts quite strongly.
subtleties if you go back and watch TFA specifically looking for them too. Han is obviously disappointed when she turns him down to pilot the Falcon. Leia runs right passed Chewie when Han is killed to hug Rey....
Who knows, though? I actually don't think any of these theories are spoilers because so many completely different ones are plausible.
that "Return of the Jedi" also had red lettering but so did "Revenge of the Sith" so this is the third movie. The last two with red lettering had significant deaths. Hmmm.
It would be interesting if it happened, but it's highly unlikely. Snoke's idenitity is one of the big mysteries of the new trilogy, and having the big reveal be that he is a character from a Disney XD cartoon would miss the mark with probably 90% of the people seeing the movie.
The Last Jedi is a big departure from the typical title for the middle chapter of a Star Wars trilogy. Both The Empire Strikes Back and Attack of the Clones had verbs in the title. It will join A New Hope and The Phantom Menace as the only two films in the main Skywalker series not to feature a verb in the title
I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
I'm so confused after reading this whole thread. I don't know a fraction of what some of you know, but I enjoyed the hell out of the last two movies. Looking forward to the next one.
Snoke is suppose to be thousands of years old I think per JJ Abrams. Ezra would not be old enough to turn into him.
We'll see. They really will need to give us a definitive answer in Rebels of where or what happens to characters such as Kanaan, ezra, ahsoka since there are bo more jedi going forward. Also where does Maul end up. I think with the Bendu being introduced as a middle of the force, maybe thats where they are heading. No more Sith and no more jedi but something different in the middle. Ezra is struggling and tempted to go to the dark side just like Kylo is in TFA.
your post gave me an idea of Maul turning out to be snoke, which would be pretty cool....but something I read at some point suggested that they almost made Snoke a woman, which pretty much rules out that he is really any other character we already know of.
RE: More on Han and Leia possibility from a fan page.... Â
Rey is Han and Leia's daughter, a.k.a. Kylo Ren's sister. Kinda seems like the next obvious choice, that if she's not Luke's daughter, she's Leia's. Rey and Kylo—birth name Ben Solo—being brother and sister would certainly have more heft than a cousin v. cousin situation, but it's extremely suspicious that Han and Leia wouldn't betray this secret at all, either in private or around Rey. Han is visibly paternal toward her, though, and she rules at flying the Millennium Falcon. Kylo Ren also sneers that Han must seem like the father she never had. Here's Redditor JayMoots really bringing this theory home:
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
Well, for starters, his name isn't Ren. He is a member of the Knights of Ren.
your post gave me an idea of Maul turning out to be snoke, which would be pretty cool....but something I read at some point suggested that they almost made Snoke a woman, which pretty much rules out that he is really any other character we already know of.
As an aside, my son is reading a book about Darth Maul now. The story has him somehow surviving getting cut in half by Obi Wan and getting robotic legs.
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Rey is Han and Leia's daughter, a.k.a. Kylo Ren's sister. Kinda seems like the next obvious choice, that if she's not Luke's daughter, she's Leia's. Rey and Kylo—birth name Ben Solo—being brother and sister would certainly have more heft than a cousin v. cousin situation, but it's extremely suspicious that Han and Leia wouldn't betray this secret at all, either in private or around Rey. Han is visibly paternal toward her, though, and she rules at flying the Millennium Falcon. Kylo Ren also sneers that Han must seem like the father she never had. Here's Redditor JayMoots really bringing this theory home:
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
Well, for starters, his name isn't Ren. He is a member of the Knights of Ren.
I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
Well that lightsaber was originally Anakin/Vaders. So it could call to her if she was Leia's daughter too. The other clues for Han/Leia is the embrace Leia gave her (ignoring Chewy), plus the scene Han and Rey had in falcon where they were practically finishing each others sentences.
John Williams uses almost an identical theme to the scene in Episode 3 when he is discussed. Just makes too much sense. He was Sith that could cheat death. He also looks like the same species that Plaguis supposedly was from the books.
I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
Well that lightsaber was originally Anakin/Vaders. So it could call to her if she was Leia's daughter too. The other clues for Han/Leia is the embrace Leia gave her (ignoring Chewy), plus the scene Han and Rey had in falcon where they were practically finishing each others sentences.
John Williams uses almost an identical theme to the scene in Episode 3 when he is discussed. Just makes too much sense. He was Sith that could cheat death. He also looks like the same species that Plaguis supposedly was from the books.
Plageius couldnt cheat death. He could save ones he loved is what Palpatine said I believe. Palpatine killed him. Snoke could be someone Plageius saved
I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
Well that lightsaber was originally Anakin/Vaders. So it could call to her if she was Leia's daughter too. The other clues for Han/Leia is the embrace Leia gave her (ignoring Chewy), plus the scene Han and Rey had in falcon where they were practically finishing each others sentences.
I would point out that Anakin built the lightsaber under Obi-wan's supervision. In the Star Wars VII, when Rey picks up the lightsaber, you hear Obi-wan's voice telling her that she has begun a new journey.
It might stand to reason that while she is almost certainly not Obi-wan's daughter, she could well be a relative, if not granddaughter.
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John Williams uses almost an identical theme to the scene in Episode 3 when he is discussed. Just makes too much sense. He was Sith that could cheat death. He also looks like the same species that Plaguis supposedly was from the books.
Plageius couldnt cheat death. He could save ones he loved is what Palpatine said I believe. Palpatine killed him. Snoke could be someone Plageius saved
Ummmm..... he was working on cheating death and saving ones he loved. Palpatine "believed" he couldn't save himself. Obviously, if he survived, Palpatine would have been wrong.
like I'm taking crazy pills. Does nobody else make the connection that cheating death = becoming a force ghost a la Anakin, Obi Wan, and Yoda?
Not necessarily... Sidious made this statement to Anakin:
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"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying."
Now, he was using this to influence Anakin, so he could have been lying, but he said that he could save others from death.
I've thought about it being force ghost, too, but if that's the case, who would have taught Anakin, Yoda, and Obi Wan how to do it?
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like I'm taking crazy pills. Does nobody else make the connection that cheating death = becoming a force ghost a la Anakin, Obi Wan, and Yoda?
Not necessarily... Sidious made this statement to Anakin:
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"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying."
Now, he was using this to influence Anakin, so he could have been lying, but he said that he could save others from death.
I've thought about it being force ghost, too, but if that's the case, who would have taught Anakin, Yoda, and Obi Wan how to do it?
may be Darth Revan.They thought about brining him in for some episodes of Clone wars but Lucas didn't want it to happen and cancelled the idea.He is a pretty popular character from the Old Republic stuff
may be Darth Revan.They thought about brining him in for some episodes of Clone wars but Lucas didn't want it to happen and cancelled the idea.He is a pretty popular character from the Old Republic stuff
Except that the Darth Revan stuff from the games is way before the current canon like 4,000 years before
may be Darth Revan.They thought about brining him in for some episodes of Clone wars but Lucas didn't want it to happen and cancelled the idea.He is a pretty popular character from the Old Republic stuff
Except that the Darth Revan stuff from the games is way before the current canon like 4,000 years before
Yeah good point ,I really hope its someone we know I really don't want it to be a new character
I always found it interesting that in A New Hope, Leia affected a British lilt when speaking to Vader and Tarkin in their scenes. Nothing more than an observation, but I wondered why that was done. We know Bail Organa spoke American English, so other than being a Princess/Senator using a more proper or regal affect in the presence of the Empire, seems curious why Leia would do that.
This was completely accidental. Carrie Fisher went to acting school in England in her late teens (partially to get away from her crazy family) and picked up a bit of an English accent. She makes fun of the fact that it comes and goes throughout ANH in her one woman show "wishful Drinking" (at 0:45 of the YouTube clip.) Link - ( New Window )
Either way, super stoked.
Can we hope for it during the Super Bowl?
Here is the official announcement:
Return of the Jedi?
Oh wait, that has already been used.
Here is the official announcement:
They've hinted at it being darker and more serious which it shares with Empire but that the story arc is definitely different. The red letters are definitely on purpose.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Luke = Obi-Wan
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That being said... it had some really marked differences that were very cool to the story.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
Good points. Could be.
Either way, super stoked.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Good questions. Wonder if that was actually a grave stone where Luke was standing at the end of FA?
There are rumors of a Ewan McGregor Obi Wan franchise, which could fill in the blanks of those twenty years between 3 and 4, his love interests, etc.
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
What do you mean nobody can really see it? An actress was surprised that her dopey actor friends couldn't noodle through it? Every old nerd like me who grew up with Star Wars can see what they intended.
Well, a lot of people out there don't think it's Luke, so....
In the Clone Wars/Rebels storyline, Obi Wan fell in love with Duchess Satine. He even said he would have left the Jedi Order for her.
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
Ah yeah, as said below, grandfather would make more sense.
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Good questions. Wonder if that was actually a grave stone where Luke was standing at the end of FA?
There are rumors of a Ewan McGregor Obi Wan franchise, which could fill in the blanks of those twenty years between 3 and 4, his love interests, etc.
And you'd think Leia and/or Han would have acknowledged it.
Uh don't know what movie you watched, but they got TFA right, and Rogue One..
Just joking about the Jar Jar fan theory.
I gave them a pass on the plot of TFA for this reason. It was a safe play but probably the right one after Episodes I-III. But VIII and IX need to get back to the kick-ass story telling in addition to the high production value.
I also think Snoke is Mace Windu.
Why would you want to know this?
I saw the last two movies knowing nothing going in and it was a real treat.
That's interesting.
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in this film. Luke is said to be the most powerful Jedi ever and the rumors are that Luke and Rey battle the Knights of Ren at the outset of the next movie. Rey duels Kylo, while Luke takes on essentially the rest of them and he has some rather cool and powerful means of doing so.
Why would you want to know this?
I saw the last two movies knowing nothing going in and it was a real treat.
I agree. Would be nice to speculate plot points (based on insider info or whatever) on a separate thread.
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
I also think Snoke is Mace Windu.
interesting ideas. Care to elaborate why?
Ezra from Rebels
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
Wouldn't C make Rey Leia and Solo's daughter?
Look at how they fight with the light sabers. Snoke also talks about utilizing both light and dark side, and Mace Windu's style is based off of using both the light and dark side.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Snope tell Kylo Ren that Ren had to capture her, or "the new jedi would meet the last jedi?" Or something like that?
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between Rey/Palpatine or Kylo/Mace.
Look at how they fight with the light sabers. Snoke also talks about utilizing both light and dark side, and Mace Windu's style is based off of using both the light and dark side.
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
A) Who says Luke isn't allowed to marry? The Jedi order is long gone.
B) Possible
C) Also possible
D) Maybe she's a spawn of the force but has no true mother, you sexist.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
I really, really hope she's not related to anyone. Enough of that played out plot device, already. I mean, are people really going to be wowed by yet another familial "revelation"?
But if she does have to be related to anyone...
...she's Ben's sister, Leia and Han's daughter. The only reason I can imagine for Leia blowing off Chewie and going straight to comfort Rey after Han's death. (WTF, J.J.?) Rey started learning to be a Jedi very young, and everything went haywire with Ben, so they separated Ben and Rey to protect Rey.
The original trilogy was a father/son saga, this trilogy is a brother/sister saga.
Just my theory, not a spoiled leak. (Again, hope I'm wrong.)
Rey being Luke's daughter would seem a bit clumsy. Who's the mom? Was Jedi Master Luke supposed to have kids? Why did he abandon her when the Jedi academy went wrong?
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.
Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
I really, really hope she's not related to anyone. Enough of that played out plot device, already. I mean, are people really going to be wowed by yet another familial "revelation"?
But if she does have to be related to anyone...
...she's Ben's sister, Leia and Han's daughter. The only reason I can imagine for Leia blowing off Chewie and going straight to comfort Rey after Han's death. (WTF, J.J.?) Rey started learning to be a Jedi very young, and everything went haywire with Ben, so they separated Ben and Rey to protect Rey.
The original trilogy was a father/son saga, this trilogy is a brother/sister saga.
Just my theory, not a spoiled leak. (Again, hope I'm wrong.)
Rey being Luke's daughter would seem a bit clumsy. Who's the mom? Was Jedi Master Luke supposed to have kids? Why did he abandon her when the Jedi academy went wrong?
Vader tried to make the Jedi extinct. Luke was all that was left. Perhaps he procreated to bring the Jedi back.
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A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
Wouldn't C make Rey Leia and Solo's daughter?
Yes I think would.
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A) A clone of Luke's since he is not allowed to marry, but could possibly want a child of his own and that's how he could have 1. When Kylo goes wild he hides her from everyone. Would explain how she was drawn to the light saber and had instincts on how to use it
B) Luke's actual spawn
C) Kylo's sister separated for protection since the Skywalkers are prone to twins.
D) Like Vader she is a spawn of the force and has no true father.
A) Who says Luke isn't allowed to marry? The Jedi order is long gone.
B) Possible
C) Also possible
D) Maybe she's a spawn of the force but has no true mother, you sexist.
Well lets not forget that Luke learned from Yoda, who probably told him the ways to the darkside, and how to "Return the Jedi". Also, Luke is the lamest hero in the trilogy up until "Return of the Jedi" and that being said he's a huge square. I mean he is a completely different self aware Jedi master in the 3rd movie, and he knows how to not become part of the dark side. I think he would obey the rules because he is just lame enough to do so.
love and sacrifice for family members is the key "force" in the saga.
even han walked into his own death at leias requestto show his love for his son and wife.
there are no rules when love is involved or at least no hesitation to break them.
luke fell in love defied the order and gave the sith a rebirth.
his solom existence is as much his punishment and his thoughts that its best for the world for nobody to find him.
there has to be good reason for him to expect rey to be turned. therefore i think her pull to the darkside is from her mother.
luke fell in love defied the order and gave the sith a rebirth.
Huh?
By the way Kylo Ren is not a Sith, so it's possible that Rey does not become a "Jedi", just a powerful force user.
By the way Kylo Ren is not a Sith, so it's possible that Rey does not become a "Jedi", just a powerful force user.
He isn't a sith yet, but he surely is in training. I am sure Rey will be trained by Luke in the next movie.
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By the way Kylo Ren is not a Sith, so it's possible that Rey does not become a "Jedi", just a powerful force user.
He isn't a sith yet, but he surely is in training. I am sure Rey will be trained by Luke in the next movie.
Snoke isn't purely sith either, he is both a light and dark side user.
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Ezra from Rebels
Nope, it'll be "The Return of the Ewoks."
Star Wars Episode IX: Well, Maybe One More
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
Several have posited this.
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NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
Several have posited this.
Yeah I missed that thanks. Abrams has also said that her parents weren't in TFA so that would rule out Luke, Han, and Leia but he could have been deflecting.
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NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
Pretty sure I saw a documentary about two twins separated at birth, one grew up in the U.S. and one in the U.K. and they had different accents.
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NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
That does hold some merit because they did ask a number of British actors to change to an American accent and they did not for her. So who does that leave? Obi one and Palpatine?
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NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
Several have posited this.
Yeah I missed that thanks. Abrams has also said that her parents weren't in TFA so that would rule out Luke, Han, and Leia but he could have been deflecting.
Actually, Abrams back tracked on that a bit
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NOBODY thinks she's just plain old Jane Han and Leia's daughter and Kilo's sister. In light of her comments about she's surprised nobody has caught on from watching TFA it makes the most sense. Luke wasn't even in the movie. Now think back to when Rey and Han were bonding in the Millenium Falcon and how she was essentially finishing his sentences. Hmmmm
So she must have just picked up the accent from watching BBC while waiting for her fam to return.
That does hold some merit because they did ask a number of British actors to change to an American accent and they did not for her. So who does that leave? Obi one and Palpatine?
Those are my guesses at this point. Though, sure, maybe it is Luke as the father and it's Rey's mother who had the accent.
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
Interesting, that might be plausible, as Kylo Ren is believed to me about 10-11 years older than Rey. Also when one of the Imperial officers informs Kylo that FN2187 escaped with the help of a girl, he reacts quite strongly.
Who knows, though? I actually don't think any of these theories are spoilers because so many completely different ones are plausible.
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Ezra from Rebels
It would be interesting if it happened, but it's highly unlikely. Snoke's idenitity is one of the big mysteries of the new trilogy, and having the big reveal be that he is a character from a Disney XD cartoon would miss the mark with probably 90% of the people seeing the movie.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
We'll see. They really will need to give us a definitive answer in Rebels of where or what happens to characters such as Kanaan, ezra, ahsoka since there are bo more jedi going forward. Also where does Maul end up. I think with the Bendu being introduced as a middle of the force, maybe thats where they are heading. No more Sith and no more jedi but something different in the middle. Ezra is struggling and tempted to go to the dark side just like Kylo is in TFA.
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
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Rey is Han and Leia's daughter, a.k.a. Kylo Ren's sister. Kinda seems like the next obvious choice, that if she's not Luke's daughter, she's Leia's. Rey and Kylo—birth name Ben Solo—being brother and sister would certainly have more heft than a cousin v. cousin situation, but it's extremely suspicious that Han and Leia wouldn't betray this secret at all, either in private or around Rey. Han is visibly paternal toward her, though, and she rules at flying the Millennium Falcon. Kylo Ren also sneers that Han must seem like the father she never had. Here's Redditor JayMoots really bringing this theory home:
"The answer is, it’s because Han and Leia believe their daughter is dead. I'm confident that it will be revealed that Rey, as a young child, was at Luke’s Jedi Academy at the same time as her older brother Ben. When Ben went nuts and slaughtered the other Jedi-in-training, everyone assumed that he killed his sister too. But he didn’t. He kidnapped her and hid her on Jakku. He changed her name to Rey (similar to his new name, Ren) and told her to wait there for him to come back. He had no intention of ever coming back, of course, (as Maz Kanata hinted to Rey in the lightsaber scene) but he also could not bring himself to murder his little sister. The Light was still too strong in him."
Well, for starters, his name isn't Ren. He is a member of the Knights of Ren.
Whoopdie do. Theory debunked!! lol
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I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
Well that lightsaber was originally Anakin/Vaders. So it could call to her if she was Leia's daughter too. The other clues for Han/Leia is the embrace Leia gave her (ignoring Chewy), plus the scene Han and Rey had in falcon where they were practically finishing each others sentences.
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I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
Well that lightsaber was originally Anakin/Vaders. So it could call to her if she was Leia's daughter too. The other clues for Han/Leia is the embrace Leia gave her (ignoring Chewy), plus the scene Han and Rey had in falcon where they were practically finishing each others sentences.
Yup, I said exactly that up above.
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Plageius couldnt cheat death. He could save ones he loved is what Palpatine said I believe. Palpatine killed him. Snoke could be someone Plageius saved
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I thought it was made pretty obvious that Luke was Rey's father. It wasn't until I went on the internet that I realized that it was a running mystery for everyone else - not sure what I'm missing.
It still could be the most obvious choice. What is there to go off though other then maybe the lightsaber was called to her? What else in TFA would lead the actress to proclaim she's shocked people couldn't see it it was so obvious? IDK
Well that lightsaber was originally Anakin/Vaders. So it could call to her if she was Leia's daughter too. The other clues for Han/Leia is the embrace Leia gave her (ignoring Chewy), plus the scene Han and Rey had in falcon where they were practically finishing each others sentences.
I would point out that Anakin built the lightsaber under Obi-wan's supervision. In the Star Wars VII, when Rey picks up the lightsaber, you hear Obi-wan's voice telling her that she has begun a new journey.
It might stand to reason that while she is almost certainly not Obi-wan's daughter, she could well be a relative, if not granddaughter.
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John Williams uses almost an identical theme to the scene in Episode 3 when he is discussed. Just makes too much sense. He was Sith that could cheat death. He also looks like the same species that Plaguis supposedly was from the books.
Plageius couldnt cheat death. He could save ones he loved is what Palpatine said I believe. Palpatine killed him. Snoke could be someone Plageius saved
Ummmm..... he was working on cheating death and saving ones he loved. Palpatine "believed" he couldn't save himself. Obviously, if he survived, Palpatine would have been wrong.
Debunked is a major stretch. It's another fan page theorizing why Plaguis being Snoke "is probably wrong".
IMO Snoke cant be his real name. He's a Sith and will have the "Darth" moniker somewhere so he's hiding something.
That's amazing.
Or how about impregnating a mother without a father. Could he actually be Anakin?
Not necessarily... Sidious made this statement to Anakin:
Now, he was using this to influence Anakin, so he could have been lying, but he said that he could save others from death.
I've thought about it being force ghost, too, but if that's the case, who would have taught Anakin, Yoda, and Obi Wan how to do it?
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like I'm taking crazy pills. Does nobody else make the connection that cheating death = becoming a force ghost a la Anakin, Obi Wan, and Yoda?
Not necessarily... Sidious made this statement to Anakin:
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"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying."
Now, he was using this to influence Anakin, so he could have been lying, but he said that he could save others from death.
I've thought about it being force ghost, too, but if that's the case, who would have taught Anakin, Yoda, and Obi Wan how to do it?
Qui-Gon Jinn. This occurs in the clone wars series
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Except that the Darth Revan stuff from the games is way before the current canon like 4,000 years before
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may be Darth Revan.They thought about brining him in for some episodes of Clone wars but Lucas didn't want it to happen and cancelled the idea.He is a pretty popular character from the Old Republic stuff
Except that the Darth Revan stuff from the games is way before the current canon like 4,000 years before
This was completely accidental. Carrie Fisher went to acting school in England in her late teens (partially to get away from her crazy family) and picked up a bit of an English accent. She makes fun of the fact that it comes and goes throughout ANH in her one woman show "wishful Drinking" (at 0:45 of the YouTube clip.)
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