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NFT: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi

Eli2Plax1017 : 1/23/2017 11:26 am
it's official
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Great  
Joey in VA : 1/23/2017 11:27 am : link
Now the day is shot
was just about to post  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2017 11:28 am : link
can't wait!
Cool  
Ben in Tampa : 1/23/2017 11:37 am : link
Bring on the trailer already!
I'm guessing this means  
Sonic Youth : 1/23/2017 11:38 am : link
that Luke dies somehow, after training Rey, and the Rebellion (or whatever it's called now, the name is slipping my mind)/main characters each a similar nadir as the end of EOSB.

Either way, super stoked.
Will Episode IX be called  
Bramton1 : 1/23/2017 11:38 am : link
And Then There Were Two?
I hope they get this one right.  
Mr. Bungle : 1/23/2017 11:43 am : link
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RE: Cool  
KWhite2250 : 1/23/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13336874 Ben in Tampa said:
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Bring on the trailer already!


Can we hope for it during the Super Bowl?
Not to sound too nerdy, but I wonder what the significance is with  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 11:48 am : link
the red lettering. As far as I can tell, no Star Wars movie title has had that red outline in the logo.

Here is the official announcement:

RE: Will Episode IX be called  
Reb8thVA : 1/23/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13336882 Bramton1 said:
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And Then There Were Two?


Return of the Jedi?

Oh wait, that has already been used.
RE: Not to sound too nerdy, but I wonder what the significance is with  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13336909 Britt in VA said:
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the red lettering. As far as I can tell, no Star Wars movie title has had that red outline in the logo.

Here is the official announcement:



They've hinted at it being darker and more serious which it shares with Empire but that the story arc is definitely different. The red letters are definitely on purpose.
I'm thinking either Luke dies  
sjnyfan : 1/23/2017 11:54 am : link
or it's a very Luke-centric story explaining the Jedi's fall (again) along with the rise of Kylo. Either way I think Rey ultimately is the "Last Jedi" and we will find out who her parents are a la Vader-Skywalker in Empire.
I honestly think Luke is Rey's father...  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 11:56 am : link
and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.

Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
"Jedi" is both singular and plural  
CaptSehorn : 1/23/2017 11:57 am : link
It could be referring to Luke, Rey, or both
I don't think Luke dies  
Ben in Tampa : 1/23/2017 11:57 am : link
I think the movie is going to focus a lot on the backstory of how Kylo went to the dark side and why Luke went into exile. I think its literally going to be about "The Last Jedi" and why there isn't a new jedi order.
Just rebooting 4-6, but change the names  
PatersonPlank : 1/23/2017 11:58 am : link
Rae = Luke
Luke = Obi-Wan
etc
etc

right down the list
I hope  
EricNY33 : 1/23/2017 12:04 pm : link
everyone stops complaining about how similar The Force Awakens was to A New Hope. Yeah. It was similar. I get it. Not a complete and total remake but it was similar.

That being said... it had some really marked differences that were very cool to the story.
Actually, I was wrong....  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:06 pm : link
Return of the Jedi had similar red lettering, originally:

RE: I honestly think Luke is Rey's father...  
Existenz : 1/23/2017 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13336935 Britt in VA said:
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.

Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.


Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
RE: RE: I honestly think Luke is Rey's father...  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13336958 Existenz said:
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In comment 13336935 Britt in VA said:


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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.

Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.



Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.


Good points. Could be.
Actually, she can't be Obi Wan's daughter....  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:08 pm : link
Force Awakens takes place 30 years after Jedi. Obi Wan is dead by then, and Rey is not 30 years old.
RE: I'm guessing this means  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13336876 Sonic Youth said:
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that Luke dies somehow, after training Rey, and the Rebellion (or whatever it's called now, the name is slipping my mind)/main characters each a similar nadir as the end of EOSB.

Either way, super stoked.
Not necessarily. Jedi is both singular and plural. It could be referring to Luke. It could be referring to Rey. It could be referring to both. It could be referring to more Jedi we are not yet aware of.
who would be Rey's mother?  
BLUATHRT : 1/23/2017 12:10 pm : link
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RE: Actually, I was wrong....  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13336957 Britt in VA said:
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Return of the Jedi had similar red lettering, originally:

One further, it was originally titled Revenge of the Jedi.
RE: I honestly think Luke is Rey's father...  
Joey in VA : 1/23/2017 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13336935 Britt in VA said:
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.

Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.
What do you mean nobody can really see it? An actress was surprised that her dopey actor friends couldn't noodle through it? Every old nerd like me who grew up with Star Wars can see what they intended.
RE: who would be Rey's mother?  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13336963 BLUATHRT said:
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Good questions. Wonder if that was actually a grave stone where Luke was standing at the end of FA?
Could be Obi Wan's granddaughter  
Ben in Tampa : 1/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
Obi Wan's daughter is the mom, Luke is the father

There are rumors of a Ewan McGregor Obi Wan franchise, which could fill in the blanks of those twenty years between 3 and 4, his love interests, etc.
RE: RE: I honestly think Luke is Rey's father...  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13336967 Joey in VA said:
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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.

Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.

What do you mean nobody can really see it? An actress was surprised that her dopey actor friends couldn't noodle through it? Every old nerd like me who grew up with Star Wars can see what they intended.


Well, a lot of people out there don't think it's Luke, so....
RE: who would be Rey's mother?  
Existenz : 1/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13336963 BLUATHRT said:
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In the Clone Wars/Rebels storyline, Obi Wan fell in love with Duchess Satine. He even said he would have left the Jedi Order for her.
RE: RE: I honestly think Luke is Rey's father...  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13336958 Existenz said:
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In comment 13336935 Britt in VA said:


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and that it's so simple that nobody can really see it.

Daisy Ridley said earlier this year that she thought throughout making The Force Awakens that it was "obvious" who Rey's parents were, but that after she saw it with friends she was surprised that everybody seemed to be confused about who they were.



Which is why I actually think she is Obi Wan's daughter. Everything from the similar outfits, sneaking around StarKiller/Death Star scenes, the use of the Jedi Mind Trick, only two good characters with British accents and many more hints.
She is not old enough to be Oni Wan's daughter. This is 30 years after Return of the Jedi, which was what, 5 years or so after Obi Wan died. she's not 35+ years old. If she is a Kenobi, it would have to be his granddaughter.
I assume the title  
Joey in VA : 1/23/2017 12:14 pm : link
Is a nod to Yoda's line from Return of the Jedi.."When gone am I..the last of the Jedi will you be".
RE: Actually, she can't be Obi Wan's daughter....  
Existenz : 1/23/2017 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13336960 Britt in VA said:
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Force Awakens takes place 30 years after Jedi. Obi Wan is dead by then, and Rey is not 30 years old.


Ah yeah, as said below, grandfather would make more sense.
RE: RE: who would be Rey's mother?  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13336968 Britt in VA said:
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Good questions. Wonder if that was actually a grave stone where Luke was standing at the end of FA?
Hammill recently responded to this query with something along the lines of, "It just looked like a rock to me." But, he could also have been acting coy.
RE: Could be Obi Wan's granddaughter  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13336969 Ben in Tampa said:
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Obi Wan's daughter is the mom, Luke is the father

There are rumors of a Ewan McGregor Obi Wan franchise, which could fill in the blanks of those twenty years between 3 and 4, his love interests, etc.
This would be weak. Luke and Kenobi's daughter would be too easy. It would also be disappointing. I know they are ignoring the EU. But, if you are going to haqve Luke fall in love, Mara Jade would still make a much more interesting storyline than anything else.
Britt  
Joey in VA : 1/23/2017 12:17 pm : link
And a lot of people do think it's Luke, I suppose it depends on perspective and what is meant by "a lot". Here's a far out idea, maybe she's a clone from Vader's DNA. After he was all toasted up, maybe Palpatine sent some genetic junk to Camino to make a copy just in case.
As an aside, Luke is supposed to be a real badass Jedi  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:19 pm : link
in this film. Luke is said to be the most powerful Jedi ever and the rumors are that Luke and Rey battle the Knights of Ren at the outset of the next movie. Rey duels Kylo, while Luke takes on essentially the rest of them and he has some rather cool and powerful means of doing so.
I really hope they don't kill off Luke  
Jay on the Island : 1/23/2017 12:19 pm : link
that would be a big mistake IMO. As for Rey I really think that she is Luke's daughter. Luke, Anakin, and Rey all grew up on a dangerous desert planet. The lightsaber that once belonged to Anakin and Luke called out to her. She is also a great pilot like Luke and Vader.
RE: Britt  
Matt M. : 1/23/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13336983 Joey in VA said:
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And a lot of people do think it's Luke, I suppose it depends on perspective and what is meant by "a lot". Here's a far out idea, maybe she's a clone from Vader's DNA. After he was all toasted up, maybe Palpatine sent some genetic junk to Camino to make a copy just in case.
That has been speculated as a possibility. Also, a clone of Palpatine...or was that a theory for Snoke?
That's the bigger question....  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:21 pm : link
Who is Snoke?
No theories  
JoeMoney19 : 1/23/2017 12:22 pm : link
that Rey might just Kylo's sister, separated / protected / memory wiped by Luke when Kylo went after the academy? Although I guess her identity should / would have become obvious to Kylo and Snoke once she resurfaced with extraordinary latent Jedi talents.
RE: No theories  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13336996 JoeMoney19 said:
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that Rey might just Kylo's sister, separated / protected / memory wiped by Luke when Kylo went after the academy? Although I guess her identity should / would have become obvious to Kylo and Snoke once she resurfaced with extraordinary latent Jedi talents.


And you'd think Leia and/or Han would have acknowledged it.
RE: That's the bigger question....  
JoeMoney19 : 1/23/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13336993 Britt in VA said:
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Who is Snoke?

RE: I hope they get this one right.  
SoZKillA : 1/23/2017 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13336898 Mr. Bungle said:
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Uh don't know what movie you watched, but they got TFA right, and Rogue One..
Can't see the pic, what is it?  
Britt in VA : 1/23/2017 12:33 pm : link
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some people just won't be satisified with Star Wars  
UConn4523 : 1/23/2017 12:36 pm : link
there was a lot to like about TFA starting with the production and acting. Sure the story was familiar but that's the hand that's dealt when you are tasked with revamping a story 40 years later having to capture your existing fanbase as well as new. Its a continuation of the same story, its going to be pretty similar.
RE: Can't see the pic, what is it?  
JoeMoney19 : 1/23/2017 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13337011 Britt in VA said:
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Just joking about the Jar Jar fan theory.
Finally Saw Rogue One  
jpennyva : 1/23/2017 12:43 pm : link
Over the weekend and loved it. Looking forward to this next movie. Count me as one who believes Rey is Luke's daughter though can't imagine who her mother is.
RE: some people just won't be satisified with Star Wars  
JoeMoney19 : 1/23/2017 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13337017 UConn4523 said:
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there was a lot to like about TFA starting with the production and acting. Sure the story was familiar but that's the hand that's dealt when you are tasked with revamping a story 40 years later having to capture your existing fanbase as well as new. Its a continuation of the same story, its going to be pretty similar.

I gave them a pass on the plot of TFA for this reason. It was a safe play but probably the right one after Episodes I-III. But VIII and IX need to get back to the kick-ass story telling in addition to the high production value.
I think Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter  
mamu : 1/23/2017 1:01 pm : link
and Luke hid her on Jakku instead of trying to train her after he failed at training Kylo. Rey's fighting style even mirrors Palpatine's in the films. She's got some dark side anger and rage in her. Creates an interesting parallel with the OT and would be a cool reveal, if true.



I also think Snoke is Mace Windu.
she is lukes daughter  
Dankbeerman : 1/23/2017 1:07 pm : link
and he left her and went into isolation to protect her location from her mother who is snokes daughter obsessed with progressing Vader's bloodline and the one who turned ben solo to the darkside.
RE: As an aside, Luke is supposed to be a real badass Jedi  
schabadoo : 1/23/2017 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13336986 Matt M. said:
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in this film. Luke is said to be the most powerful Jedi ever and the rumors are that Luke and Rey battle the Knights of Ren at the outset of the next movie. Rey duels Kylo, while Luke takes on essentially the rest of them and he has some rather cool and powerful means of doing so.


Why would you want to know this?

I saw the last two movies knowing nothing going in and it was a real treat.
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