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Earl the goat : 1/23/2017 5:42 pm
Per CBS sports
Knicks and Bulls interested in Rubio

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Phil Jackson vs. Scott Layden in a trade negotiation.  
bceagle05 : 1/23/2017 5:49 pm : link
The resistible force vs. the movable object!
even if you got him for a bag of balls...  
Italianju : 1/23/2017 5:52 pm : link
how does that improve the team at all.
Look a few threads down  
Anakim : 1/23/2017 5:54 pm : link
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RE: even if you got him for a bag of balls...  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 5:59 pm : link
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how does that improve the team at all.


TANK!
If it's to get an asset or get rid of Noah's contract  
Keith : 1/23/2017 6:07 pm : link
sign me up. Noah for Rubio+. It better not be something ridiculous like O'Quinn and Jennings for Rubio. That would be a disaster.
this sounds like a hornacek request  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 6:10 pm : link
moves rose off the ball and all he has to do is score amd.hornacek can run his 2 pg lineups
Rubio on the bulls?  
dep026 : 1/23/2017 6:11 pm : link
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
RE: If it's to get an asset or get rid of Noah's contract  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13337436 Keith said:
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sign me up. Noah for Rubio+. It better not be something ridiculous like O'Quinn and Jennings for Rubio. That would be a disaster.


Jennings and Noah make sense for both teams. Jennings doesn't seem like a guy that the Knicks would be pressing to retain. Plus if they are getting rid of Rubio they would need some sort of veteran presence to pair with Dunn. Noah fits an actual need for the Wolves, he is an upgrade over Dieng in rim protection, passing and rebounding.
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dep026 : 1/23/2017 6:15 pm : link
In comment 13337441 giantsfan44ab said:
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sign me up. Noah for Rubio+. It better not be something ridiculous like O'Quinn and Jennings for Rubio. That would be a disaster.



Jennings and Noah make sense for both teams. Jennings doesn't seem like a guy that the Knicks would be pressing to retain. Plus if they are getting rid of Rubio they would need some sort of veteran presence to pair with Dunn. Noah fits an actual need for the Wolves, he is an upgrade over Dieng in rim protection, passing and rebounding.


The problem is you need to trade Dieng too, cause his contract is terrible too. I will never get why they signed him to an extension in the first place.

he is a nice role player, but not what the Twolves need.
RE: RE: If it's to get an asset or get rid of Noah's contract  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 6:18 pm : link
In comment 13337441 giantsfan44ab said:
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sign me up. Noah for Rubio+. It better not be something ridiculous like O'Quinn and Jennings for Rubio. That would be a disaster.



Jennings and Noah make sense for both teams. Jennings doesn't seem like a guy that the Knicks would be pressing to retain. Plus if they are getting rid of Rubio they would need some sort of veteran presence to pair with Dunn. Noah fits an actual need for the Wolves, he is an upgrade over Dieng in rim protection, passing and rebounding.


from what i read twolves want a stop gap point guard to start until dunn is ready, apparently they dont like rubio,s fit..

noah could be the veteran presence they are lacking and with towns and dieng he doesnt have to play big minutes...

rubio and mohammed for noah and jennings and one of thos years 2nd? have to assume knicks have to send a draft pick to take on noah
RE: RE: RE: If it's to get an asset or get rid of Noah's contract  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 6:18 pm : link
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sign me up. Noah for Rubio+. It better not be something ridiculous like O'Quinn and Jennings for Rubio. That would be a disaster.



Jennings and Noah make sense for both teams. Jennings doesn't seem like a guy that the Knicks would be pressing to retain. Plus if they are getting rid of Rubio they would need some sort of veteran presence to pair with Dunn. Noah fits an actual need for the Wolves, he is an upgrade over Dieng in rim protection, passing and rebounding.



The problem is you need to trade Dieng too, cause his contract is terrible too. I will never get why they signed him to an extension in the first place.

he is a nice role player, but not what the Twolves need.


Would they have to immediately? They aren't anywhere near the cap now and by the time they have to pay Wiggins and Lavine most of their big man contracts will be off the books. In other words, they will have $30M+ in cap space even if you assume Lavine and Wiggins are each getting max contracts.

Dont think theyd have trouble getting a team like the Lakers or the Nets to take on Dieng and maybe get a pick back in the process.
By the time they have to pay Towns  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 6:26 pm : link
they will have Jordan Hill, Pekovic, and Aldrich off the books. Thats around $20M in space. That in itself pays for Dieng's contract.
Supposedly a reputable source in spain  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 6:34 pm : link
says knicks are very interested take it for what its worth
RE: Supposedly a reputable source in spain  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 6:36 pm : link
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says knicks are very interested take it for what its worth


You have a link?
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nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 6:43 pm : link
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Hey this works :)  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 6:44 pm : link
pekovic mohammed rubio for lance jennings and noah
RE: Hey this works :)  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13337484 nygiants16 said:
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pekovic mohammed rubio for lance jennings and noah


Not sure if they would want to take on more long term salary than they are giving away. They could just pay Shabazz slightly more than LT if that were the case.
RE: RE: Hey this works :)  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 6:50 pm : link
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pekovic mohammed rubio for lance jennings and noah



Not sure if they would want to take on more long term salary than they are giving away. They could just pay Shabazz slightly more than LT if that were the case.


i was joking because i cant stand lance
Not sure if the Wolves can  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 6:52 pm : link
stand Pekovic but at least they get him off the books after next season.
RE: Phil Jackson vs. Scott Layden in a trade negotiation.  
Enzo : 1/23/2017 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13337423 bceagle05 said:
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The resistible force vs. the movable object!

I laughed. This "negotiation" would be a pillow fight.
Rubio  
Jon in NYC : 1/23/2017 8:19 pm : link
for Noah and Jennings.

Who says no?
Porzingis  
dep026 : 1/23/2017 8:27 pm : link
holy shit. Really struggling since his return. He just got pushed around by teague in the post.
RE: Porzingis  
Mason : 1/23/2017 8:29 pm : link
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holy shit. Really struggling since his return. He just got pushed around by teague in the post.


the book is out on him to some degree.
This one is ugly already  
dep026 : 1/23/2017 8:31 pm : link
I know its only 6 minutes, but Porz is killing the Knicks. He just screwed Melo on a turnover there. No roll.
Porzingis is killing the Knicks  
Mason : 1/23/2017 8:32 pm : link
for whatever reason he refuses to stick with his man on defense and he can't rebound in traffic anymore. On the offense end he is chucking up bricks from difficult spots.
kp really has a lot to learn  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:32 pm : link
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Nice to see Rose ball  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 8:32 pm : link
watching under the basket as Miles slams it back in.

Lee guarding PG is a death wish.

Melo is just feeding Indy back the ball on offense with lazy passes.

Fuck this team.
Well, nobody really expects Melo to pass so I can  
PhiPsi125 : 1/23/2017 8:33 pm : link
see why KP didn't go anywhere on that bad pass by Melo.
sit kp on the bench  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:33 pm : link
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RE: Nice to see Rose ball  
dep026 : 1/23/2017 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13337564 giantsfan44ab said:
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watching under the basket as Miles slams it back in.

Lee guarding PG is a death wish.

Melo is just feeding Indy back the ball on offense with lazy passes.

Fuck this team.


Melo has done nothing wrong this game. His pass to KP was PERFECT. He didnt roll. Porz has been the worst player in the stadium tonight, and that includes fans.
Oh boy is my feed behind  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 8:34 pm : link
I'll stop commenting until breaks cuz I'll think you guys are in the future or some shit.
The Knicks are killing the Knicks.  
PhiPsi125 : 1/23/2017 8:34 pm : link
It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.
Let's continue to ride the KP at center  
giantsfan44ab : 1/23/2017 8:35 pm : link
train.

This dude is not ready to play the 5 at all right now.
RE: The Knicks are killing the Knicks.  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:35 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.



umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover
RE: The Knicks are killing the Knicks.  
dep026 : 1/23/2017 8:37 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.


No this game has been all KP.
As much as people are thirsty to send Melo into outer space  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/23/2017 8:38 pm : link
Kristaps Porzingis is not really ready to be the best player on an NBA team.
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Mason : 1/23/2017 8:38 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover


I can't believe no one has instructed him to post up when all these point guards choose to defend him. How many times was Teague on him and he just shoots a mid range shot?
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dep026 : 1/23/2017 8:39 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover



I can't believe no one has instructed him to post up when all these point guards choose to defend him. How many times was Teague on him and he just shoots a mid range shot?


Well he gets pushed around by guards in the post. He cant be healthy.
RE: RE: The Knicks are killing the Knicks.  
PhiPsi125 : 1/23/2017 8:39 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover


You are right, what was I thinking. KP is the sole reason why the Knicks suck tonight. It certainly can't be the complete lack of team defense, not paying attention on offense, nobody being able to score other than Melo and air balling free throws.

Right, all KP.
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nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:39 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover



I can't believe no one has instructed him to post up when all these point guards choose to defend him. How many times was Teague on him and he just shoots a mid range shot?


because a point guard can push him around
Rambis is suppose to be the big man coach?  
Mason : 1/23/2017 8:40 pm : link
And none of these bigs can post up.
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Mason : 1/23/2017 8:41 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover



I can't believe no one has instructed him to post up when all these point guards choose to defend him. How many times was Teague on him and he just shoots a mid range shot?



because a point guard can push him around


That's the insane part. How the hell are they pushing him out the paint???
RE: RE: RE: The Knicks are killing the Knicks.  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:43 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover



You are right, what was I thinking. KP is the sole reason why the Knicks suck tonight. It certainly can't be the complete lack of team defense, not paying attention on offense, nobody being able to score other than Melo and air balling free throws.

Right, all KP.


how can you possibly be watching this game and say kp is not killing the team?
He's also pretty clearly not healthy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/23/2017 8:45 pm : link
You don't magically heal from an admitted achilles injury in a snap.
RE: He's also pretty clearly not healthy  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:45 pm : link
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You don't magically heal from an admitted achilles injury in a snap.


then stop forcing up shots and sit down if you are not healthy
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PhiPsi125 : 1/23/2017 8:47 pm : link
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It's not just KP, no matter how much you want it to be.




umm 3 bricks right at the basket, a travel, lazy defense and then another turnover



You are right, what was I thinking. KP is the sole reason why the Knicks suck tonight. It certainly can't be the complete lack of team defense, not paying attention on offense, nobody being able to score other than Melo and air balling free throws.

Right, all KP.



how can you possibly be watching this game and say kp is not killing the team?


I never said KP wasn't killing this team. But to say he's the sole reason they've sucked tonight is a farce. Yeah, he's off to a rough start offensively. But even if he makes half we are still losing we are still losing. And that with him altering at least three shots while on defense. This team is awful. None of them play any defense. They don't know who the hell to pass to or if someone will pass to them, and none can score outside of Melo so far.

Yes, KP hasn't been good. Neither has the rest of the team. It's not all on KP.
The Knicks must have taken in some of Indy's "entertainment"  
Mason : 1/23/2017 8:50 pm : link
last nite.
why does herangomez not get consistent monutes?  
nygiants16 : 1/23/2017 8:50 pm : link
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Don't know what happened to my last post  
PhiPsi125 : 1/23/2017 8:51 pm : link
Half of it was missing, lol.

That floater Rose keeps shooting really sucks.
RE: why does herangomez not get consistent monutes?  
Mason : 1/23/2017 8:52 pm : link
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Horny rotations seem to change from week to week. I guess Noah coming back threw him off.
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