Although James and Anthony are incredibly close and have both expressed interest in playing together someday, sources say Cleveland is not prepared to surrender Love to get Anthony after the role Love played in helping the Cavaliers win the first championship in franchise history in June.
I hope they just deal him by the deadline? Does anyone - including Melo - want to put up with this BS through the summer?
The only thing that stops this kind of talk is if the Knicks go on a nice win streak. If they start winning the trade talk will die down. For the health of everyone involved and us fans that's what I hope happens.
Eh. I want them to lose and improve their lottery position. Though if Im watching, I want them to win. I just cannot come around to watching a Knicks game and rooting against them. My brain doesnt allow it.
I am fine both ways. I am just saying that if we want to stop hearing the trade talk and we want to be less frazzled as fans winning would help all of that along lol
permission from Melo. What a joke. The Phil/Mills clown show is in full effect.
They are clown show because they talked to a team about a trade?
and who do you think told them that melo did not give them permission? my guess melo's people leaked that so it doesnt look like melo has given them permission
But I don't think Morey would ever take that something that petty into consideration when there are big names being sold for discount on the market. I just don't buy that.
the furthest thing from a defender of the Knicks but my guess is they "know" Melo would say yes to a trade to Cleveland.
Hasn't he already leaked that he'd be open to the clips or Cavs?
I hate wasting time arguing on what the he said/she said parts of any rumors being leaked in professional sports. We pretend that every text message or phone call is leaked and we know exactly who said what. That's drivel for sports writers to argue about and get reads and clicks.
Melo is going to do whatever presents him as a loyal player who is not going to leave when things get down. Whether it's true or not, I really don't care, I'm not sure why everyone here does.
RE: RE: according to the article they did NOT have
the furthest thing from a defender of the Knicks but my guess is they "know" Melo would say yes to a trade to Cleveland.
Hasn't he already leaked that he'd be open to the clips or Cavs?
I hate wasting time arguing on what the he said/she said parts of any rumors being leaked in professional sports. We pretend that every text message or phone call is leaked and we know exactly who said what. That's drivel for sports writers to argue about and get reads and clicks.
Melo is going to do whatever presents him as a loyal player who is not going to leave when things get down. Whether it's true or not, I really don't care, I'm not sure why everyone here does.
Rosen claimed Melo would agree to LAC and Cleveland then backtracked and said that was all his opinion. I've been pro-Melo in his feud with Jackson but I have to believe Melo would be totally fine with Jackson speaking to the Cavs.
feuded with Melo. And Kobe, when they played together. And Harden, when they played together. Lin is on his 6th team, 5 since/including the Knicks where he broke out. Lin has returned to a team exactly one time in his career (HOU), which signed him to a multi year deal and then used a #1 pick to get out from under his not crazy salary. I dont remember if the Rockets were clearing the cap for a big signing, but they didnt make one that offseason.
Why are we assuming that Melo was the problem? Did Pringles say it was the Lin-Melo situation, or make it specific to Melo being the problem?
feuded with Melo. And Kobe, when they played together. And Harden, when they played together. Lin is on his 6th team, 5 since/including the Knicks where he broke out. Lin has returned to a team exactly one time in his career (HOU), which signed him to a multi year deal and then used a #1 pick to get out from under his not crazy salary. I dont remember if the Rockets were clearing the cap for a big signing, but they didnt make one that offseason.
Why are we assuming that Melo was the problem? Did Pringles say it was the Lin-Melo situation, or make it specific to Melo being the problem?
Dantoni has alluded to how Harden has been more willing to adapt to his PnR ideals unlike Melo and Kobe who both reverted back to ISO ball.
If Melo went to Houston now, first of all he would fullly realize he'd be playing without the ball in his hands (just like he would with his buddies CP3 and lebron) and second of all, he'd be a straight up upgrade over Anderson. I don't think Melo would have too many qualms if Harden was feeding him open corner 3s on a consistent basis.
said knicks offered melo and jennings for love and fillers, cavs are nervous to bring in melo with 30 games left and not sure how it would work...
also said cavs feel bad trading love after he helped bring championship to cleveland..
my guess is, if cavs keepp struggling lebron will push cavs to do deal
I understand Kevin Love has played well this, but why do people keep acting like he was instrumental in winning the title? He was benched in the finals for Jefferson. He really didn't contribute too much and now the Warriors don't have Harrison Barnes to hide on defense.
said knicks offered melo and jennings for love and fillers, cavs are nervous to bring in melo with 30 games left and not sure how it would work...
also said cavs feel bad trading love after he helped bring championship to cleveland..
my guess is, if cavs keepp struggling lebron will push cavs to do deal
Interestingly, the 30 games issue and the loyalty issue are not "we prefer Love to Melo/Jennings as a matter of roster construction".
I thought they might end up too committed to Love. I think he was ready to bolt Cleveland for the west coast and LeBron had to get on a plane for the famous poolside recruitment trip. I wonder whether there was a rep to Love that he wasnt being resigned to preserve the asset for the Cavs, just to be traded in time. Although very long term no trade promises are pretty worthless.
Dantoni has alluded to how Harden has been more willing to adapt to his PnR ideals unlike Melo and Kobe who both reverted back to ISO ball.
If Melo went to Houston now, first of all he would fullly realize he'd be playing without the ball in his hands (just like he would with his buddies CP3 and lebron) and second of all, he'd be a straight up upgrade over Anderson. I don't think Melo would have too many qualms if Harden was feeding him open corner 3s on a consistent basis.
If MDA said this and didn't acknowledge that these players are totally different with completely different skill sets, then he's an idiot. Harden has the ball in his hands all of the time (career high usage)... why would he object to the offense at all?
Dantoni has alluded to how Harden has been more willing to adapt to his PnR ideals unlike Melo and Kobe who both reverted back to ISO ball.
If Melo went to Houston now, first of all he would fullly realize he'd be playing without the ball in his hands (just like he would with his buddies CP3 and lebron) and second of all, he'd be a straight up upgrade over Anderson. I don't think Melo would have too many qualms if Harden was feeding him open corner 3s on a consistent basis.
If MDA said this and didn't acknowledge that these players are totally different with completely different skill sets, then he's an idiot. Harden has the ball in his hands all of the time (career high usage)... why would he object to the offense at all?
I'm not sure the exact quote, Howard Beck sort of discussed it in the latest Zach Lowe podcast.
He had players for his system and then the Knicks traded all those players for Melo.
I don't think he'd object to having Melo again considering nothing can be done to displace Harden's ball dominance.
are on board with a Melo for Love swap, thinking it helps Cleveland match up with Golden State. Just discussing it on NBA Countdown.
I dont think it changes much. Melo isn't the type of player they need. They need someone who can take advantage of their size flaws (e.g. Demarcus Cousins, Davis, etc.) but I'm not quite sure how they get that player.
And I want Scarlett Johanssen as my wife now that she's single.
Lopez is easily worth 2 #1s from a number of teams. Mozgov once garnered 2 #1s.
And what teams are those?
Mozgov shouldn't be a benchmark for any NBA transaction. It's a full step short of using "Bargnani garnered a first rounder". Maybe two steps. But nonetheless, my point stands.
Lopez will be turning 30 towards the end of next season. That automatically rules out any team that will be muddling in the lottery and bottom tier playoff teams that might end up in the lottery.
What big time playoff team needs a center? Brook would no doubt be a great fit under Pop but the Spurs aren't in the business of trading picks.
The Warriors? Don't see how the salary would work out given that they will need to max Steph.
And I want Scarlett Johanssen as my wife now that she's single.
Lopez is easily worth 2 #1s from a number of teams. Mozgov once garnered 2 #1s.
And what teams are those?
Mozgov shouldn't be a benchmark for any NBA transaction. It's a full step short of using "Bargnani garnered a first rounder". Maybe two steps. But nonetheless, my point stands.
Lopez will be turning 30 towards the end of next season. That automatically rules out any team that will be muddling in the lottery and bottom tier playoff teams that might end up in the lottery.
What big time playoff team needs a center? Brook would no doubt be a great fit under Pop but the Spurs aren't in the business of trading picks.
The Warriors? Don't see how the salary would work out given that they will need to max Steph.
Well I wasnt speaking to fit, but non-lottery picks and especially picks in the 20s arent super valuable. We got one for THJR. I wouldnt take a pick at the end of the round for KOQ. The notion of talking about being worth 2 #1s as if #1s have a constant value doesnt make any sense.
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He's averaging 18 ppg per 36 (of course inflated due to Rockets style). He's shouting 65% on FTs and is one hell of a monster in the PnR game.
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I hope they just deal him by the deadline? Does anyone - including Melo - want to put up with this BS through the summer?
The only thing that stops this kind of talk is if the Knicks go on a nice win streak. If they start winning the trade talk will die down. For the health of everyone involved and us fans that's what I hope happens.
Eh. I want them to lose and improve their lottery position. Though if Im watching, I want them to win. I just cannot come around to watching a Knicks game and rooting against them. My brain doesnt allow it.
I am fine both ways. I am just saying that if we want to stop hearing the trade talk and we want to be less frazzled as fans winning would help all of that along lol
I am not a fan of Phil or Mills, but they don't need permission from Melo to talk to a team. Just to trade him.
They are clown show because they talked to a team about a trade?
and who do you think told them that melo did not give them permission? my guess melo's people leaked that so it doesnt look like melo has given them permission
Hasn't he already leaked that he'd be open to the clips or Cavs?
I hate wasting time arguing on what the he said/she said parts of any rumors being leaked in professional sports. We pretend that every text message or phone call is leaked and we know exactly who said what. That's drivel for sports writers to argue about and get reads and clicks.
Melo is going to do whatever presents him as a loyal player who is not going to leave when things get down. Whether it's true or not, I really don't care, I'm not sure why everyone here does.
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permission from Melo. What a joke. The Phil/Mills clown show is in full effect.
I am not a fan of Phil or Mills, but they don't need permission from Melo to talk to a team. Just to trade him.
this becoming public is not good on several levels. Typical botch job from these two.
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permission from Melo. What a joke. The Phil/Mills clown show is in full effect.
I am not a fan of Phil or Mills, but they don't need permission from Melo to talk to a team. Just to trade him.
this becoming public is not good on several levels. Typical botch job from these two.
rrally? how many of phils trades were leaked to the media before he did them?
if this is true my guess it didnt come from phils side
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the furthest thing from a defender of the Knicks but my guess is they "know" Melo would say yes to a trade to Cleveland.
Hasn't he already leaked that he'd be open to the clips or Cavs?
I hate wasting time arguing on what the he said/she said parts of any rumors being leaked in professional sports. We pretend that every text message or phone call is leaked and we know exactly who said what. That's drivel for sports writers to argue about and get reads and clicks.
Melo is going to do whatever presents him as a loyal player who is not going to leave when things get down. Whether it's true or not, I really don't care, I'm not sure why everyone here does.
Rosen claimed Melo would agree to LAC and Cleveland then backtracked and said that was all his opinion. I've been pro-Melo in his feud with Jackson but I have to believe Melo would be totally fine with Jackson speaking to the Cavs.
Why are we assuming that Melo was the problem? Did Pringles say it was the Lin-Melo situation, or make it specific to Melo being the problem?
Why are we assuming that Melo was the problem? Did Pringles say it was the Lin-Melo situation, or make it specific to Melo being the problem?
Dantoni has alluded to how Harden has been more willing to adapt to his PnR ideals unlike Melo and Kobe who both reverted back to ISO ball.
If Melo went to Houston now, first of all he would fullly realize he'd be playing without the ball in his hands (just like he would with his buddies CP3 and lebron) and second of all, he'd be a straight up upgrade over Anderson. I don't think Melo would have too many qualms if Harden was feeding him open corner 3s on a consistent basis.
also said cavs feel bad trading love after he helped bring championship to cleveland..
my guess is, if cavs keepp struggling lebron will push cavs to do deal
also said cavs feel bad trading love after he helped bring championship to cleveland..
my guess is, if cavs keepp struggling lebron will push cavs to do deal
I understand Kevin Love has played well this, but why do people keep acting like he was instrumental in winning the title? He was benched in the finals for Jefferson. He really didn't contribute too much and now the Warriors don't have Harrison Barnes to hide on defense.
lebron goes on a rant..
it leaks cavs are not interested in melo..
caa leaks to stephen a that boston is working on a package for melo to put pressure on on cavs...
it now looks like knicks shopping melo, melo now has his out...
cavs leak no deal for love to make knicks to anti up a little bit more...
this is melo leaving demver playong nets vs knicks
also said cavs feel bad trading love after he helped bring championship to cleveland..
my guess is, if cavs keepp struggling lebron will push cavs to do deal
Interestingly, the 30 games issue and the loyalty issue are not "we prefer Love to Melo/Jennings as a matter of roster construction".
I thought they might end up too committed to Love. I think he was ready to bolt Cleveland for the west coast and LeBron had to get on a plane for the famous poolside recruitment trip. I wonder whether there was a rep to Love that he wasnt being resigned to preserve the asset for the Cavs, just to be traded in time. Although very long term no trade promises are pretty worthless.
Dantoni has alluded to how Harden has been more willing to adapt to his PnR ideals unlike Melo and Kobe who both reverted back to ISO ball.
If Melo went to Houston now, first of all he would fullly realize he'd be playing without the ball in his hands (just like he would with his buddies CP3 and lebron) and second of all, he'd be a straight up upgrade over Anderson. I don't think Melo would have too many qualms if Harden was feeding him open corner 3s on a consistent basis.
If MDA said this and didn't acknowledge that these players are totally different with completely different skill sets, then he's an idiot. Harden has the ball in his hands all of the time (career high usage)... why would he object to the offense at all?
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Dantoni has alluded to how Harden has been more willing to adapt to his PnR ideals unlike Melo and Kobe who both reverted back to ISO ball.
If Melo went to Houston now, first of all he would fullly realize he'd be playing without the ball in his hands (just like he would with his buddies CP3 and lebron) and second of all, he'd be a straight up upgrade over Anderson. I don't think Melo would have too many qualms if Harden was feeding him open corner 3s on a consistent basis.
If MDA said this and didn't acknowledge that these players are totally different with completely different skill sets, then he's an idiot. Harden has the ball in his hands all of the time (career high usage)... why would he object to the offense at all?
I'm not sure the exact quote, Howard Beck sort of discussed it in the latest Zach Lowe podcast.
He had players for his system and then the Knicks traded all those players for Melo.
I don't think he'd object to having Melo again considering nothing can be done to displace Harden's ball dominance.
I'm not sure the exact quote, Howard Beck sort of discussed it in the latest Zach Lowe podcast.
He had players for his system and then the Knicks traded all those players for Melo.
I don't think he'd object to having Melo again considering nothing can be done to displace Harden's ball dominance.
Billups was a horrendous fit for the offense... no doubt about that.
To trade for assets.
And I want Scarlett Johanssen as my wife now that she's single.
kp is not a 4
I dont think it changes much. Melo isn't the type of player they need. They need someone who can take advantage of their size flaws (e.g. Demarcus Cousins, Davis, etc.) but I'm not quite sure how they get that player.
And I want Scarlett Johanssen as my wife now that she's single.
Lopez is easily worth 2 #1s from a number of teams. Mozgov once garnered 2 #1s.
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2 1st rounders for Brook Lopez.
And I want Scarlett Johanssen as my wife now that she's single.
Lopez is easily worth 2 #1s from a number of teams. Mozgov once garnered 2 #1s.
And what teams are those?
Mozgov shouldn't be a benchmark for any NBA transaction. It's a full step short of using "Bargnani garnered a first rounder". Maybe two steps. But nonetheless, my point stands.
Lopez will be turning 30 towards the end of next season. That automatically rules out any team that will be muddling in the lottery and bottom tier playoff teams that might end up in the lottery.
What big time playoff team needs a center? Brook would no doubt be a great fit under Pop but the Spurs aren't in the business of trading picks.
The Warriors? Don't see how the salary would work out given that they will need to max Steph.
Which also translates to offense
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2 1st rounders for Brook Lopez.
And I want Scarlett Johanssen as my wife now that she's single.
Lopez is easily worth 2 #1s from a number of teams. Mozgov once garnered 2 #1s.
And what teams are those?
Mozgov shouldn't be a benchmark for any NBA transaction. It's a full step short of using "Bargnani garnered a first rounder". Maybe two steps. But nonetheless, my point stands.
Lopez will be turning 30 towards the end of next season. That automatically rules out any team that will be muddling in the lottery and bottom tier playoff teams that might end up in the lottery.
What big time playoff team needs a center? Brook would no doubt be a great fit under Pop but the Spurs aren't in the business of trading picks.
The Warriors? Don't see how the salary would work out given that they will need to max Steph.
Well I wasnt speaking to fit, but non-lottery picks and especially picks in the 20s arent super valuable. We got one for THJR. I wouldnt take a pick at the end of the round for KOQ. The notion of talking about being worth 2 #1s as if #1s have a constant value doesnt make any sense.
Bought puts a forearm into holidays chest no call
Rose taps Barnes hand it is foul
3 fouls in 5 minutes.
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only played 5 minutes in the first half. Did he get hurt, or just benched?
3 fouls in 5 minutes.
Jeez.
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only played 5 minutes in the first half. Did he get hurt, or just benched?
3 fouls in 5 minutes.
Jeez.
2 of them just stupid fouls