if our other targets are gone by then? He's a great offensive player, can move out to the slot on 4 wide formations, has great burst as a RB. Small for a RB but the kind of guy that Belichick would use to create mismatches all over the field.
Clearly there are guys I'd prefer over him, but I'm guessing that the 3 WRs (Williams, Davis and Ross) will be gone, that both OTs (Ramczyk and Robinson) will be gone, the top LB (Foster) will be gone, and the best TE (Howard) will be gone.
So it might come down to a lesser DE like Charlton, a CB, or Njoku (who I see as a 2nd rounder).
I recognize that McCaffrey is an unlikely pick, but wonder about your thoughts on him.
"there is no way the Giants are taking running back in the first round"
Giants drafted David Wilson
and then all off-season the bulk of this site said:
"The Giants moved on from Will Beatty. There's a reason he's not here, why can't you idiot fans get it through your heads Beatty is soft and injury prone the Giants don't want him or that type of player"
August 31st the Giants re-signed Will Beatty.
So while I agree with the way the team needs and BPA line up it's not likely McCaffrey is their guy, there's absolutely a chance they take him if he's there. To say otherwise is pompous and presumptive. But I expect nothing less.
LOL, I was honestly just busting balls. I think most people know that majority of us are fans and our opinions are just that. Opinions.
Some people do in fact have connections and get some inkling of inside information and when they add to the threads it's obvious.
But I do always find it laughable when people use finite language with something like the draft.
I'm not sure the Giants knew they were going to draft Eli Apple until they did (for example).
I think it's fluid. To eliminate anything at this point is folly.
At Guard, due to free agency environment and this particular draft we may already have our tackles on the roster.
23 gets you a high % chance lock great DT or guard.
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Try to not focus on that minority.
LOL, I was honestly just busting balls. I think most people know that majority of us are fans and our opinions are just that. Opinions.
Some people do in fact have connections and get some inkling of inside information and when they add to the threads it's obvious.
But I do always find it laughable when people use finite language with something like the draft.
I'm not sure the Giants knew they were going to draft Eli Apple until they did (for example).
I think it's fluid. To eliminate anything at this point is folly.
Absolutely fluid, but at the same time not too difficult to see past trends and draw some reasonably good projections.
Regardless, BBI still needs an enema. grin
However, I may be mistaken. I know that's a minority opinion. But translating McCaffrey to the NFL, what I see is a mid-round player. If he blows the Combine away, he may go higher, but that would surprise me.
To me, He looks like a great college player that will struggle in the pros. But, what do I know.
He has deceptive speed with tremendous quickness and vision. Very smart player. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and can pick up blocks. He's also a terror in the return game. He can do what Cruz, Jennings, Vereen and Harris did for us, all in one player and saving millions of doallrs. Is he the biggest player? No but no one is asking him to carry the rock 30 times a game. Give him 15-20 touches whether to spell Perkins, lining up as a receiver or in the return game. This kid is a difference maker.
He has nearly 7000 all purpose yards with 33 TDs (2 passing) in 3 seasons, only two where he was a full time player and did it in a Power 5 conference. He averaged 26 yards per kickoff return and over 11 on punt returns. Who wouldn't want a player like that? Just look at the teams in the Super Bowl. Would you mind having a Dion Lewis or Devonta Freeman? If the answer is yes, and it should be for everyone on this site, especially considering the mediocrity of our offense this past season, then he should absolutely be on a shortlist at 23.
Nah, pass....
Yours Truly,
BBI
He has deceptive speed with tremendous quickness and vision. Very smart player. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and can pick up blocks. He's also a terror in the return game. He can do what Cruz, Jennings, Vereen and Harris did for us, all in one player and saving millions of doallrs. Is he the biggest player? No but no one is asking him to carry the rock 30 times a game. Give him 15-20 touches whether to spell Perkins, lining up as a receiver or in the return game. This kid is a difference maker.
He has nearly 7000 all purpose yards with 33 TDs (2 passing) in 3 seasons, only two where he was a full time player and did it in a Power 5 conference. He averaged 26 yards per kickoff return and over 11 on punt returns. Who wouldn't want a player like that? Just look at the teams in the Super Bowl. Would you mind having a Dion Lewis or Devonta Freeman? If the answer is yes, and it should be for everyone on this site, especially considering the mediocrity of our offense this past season, then he should absolutely be on a shortlist at 23.
Donnel Pumphrey offers a pass catching play maker out of the backfield. He might drop to the fourth round. There might be more value to be had in the first at other positions than 3rd down running back/returner.
This is false, and proof of it was produced here by both Eric and me.
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McCaffrey is arguably the most versatile player in this draft as proven by him winning the Paul Hornung Award which goes to college's most versatile player. Two years before that the winner was Odell. That's worked out nicely.
He has deceptive speed with tremendous quickness and vision. Very smart player. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and can pick up blocks. He's also a terror in the return game. He can do what Cruz, Jennings, Vereen and Harris did for us, all in one player and saving millions of doallrs. Is he the biggest player? No but no one is asking him to carry the rock 30 times a game. Give him 15-20 touches whether to spell Perkins, lining up as a receiver or in the return game. This kid is a difference maker.
He has nearly 7000 all purpose yards with 33 TDs (2 passing) in 3 seasons, only two where he was a full time player and did it in a Power 5 conference. He averaged 26 yards per kickoff return and over 11 on punt returns. Who wouldn't want a player like that? Just look at the teams in the Super Bowl. Would you mind having a Dion Lewis or Devonta Freeman? If the answer is yes, and it should be for everyone on this site, especially considering the mediocrity of our offense this past season, then he should absolutely be on a shortlist at 23.
Donnel Pumphrey offers a pass catching play maker out of the backfield. He might drop to the fourth round. There might be more value to be had in the first at other positions than 3rd down running back/returner.
Pumphrey is a 4th rd prospect because he's 5'8", 169 lbs. McCaffrey has about 3-4" and 30 lbs on him. He was the smallest player at the Senior Bowl and it looked it to the naked eye.
That would be if Cook makes it to 23 which I doubt.
As for Wilson, both Eric and Jon knew that Wilson was going to be the pick well before Martin's selection.
As for Wilson, both Eric and Jon knew that Wilson was going to be the pick well before Martin's selection.
Day of the draft or close to it at best in the weeks and even days leading up to the draft the whole site was practically beating the "Giants will not take a RB in the first round" drum like they knew what they were talking about. I'm sure the threads are archived for anyone interested in digging them up.
The Giants could cut Vereen if they got him but he isn't carrying the load every down or moving the pile (neither is Perkins). Some want to push the agenda this guy is the white Dalvin Cook, he ain't.
Oh come on! They wouldn't do that! That would make sense! ;-)
They need a starting RB, not at 3rd down RB.
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I love McCaffrey's game. He's patient, yet he's also quick to hit the smallest of holes when they present themselves. He gets low, he's not an east/west type of runner, and from what I see, defenders can't seem to get a clean shot on him. I'm not sure what more you could want from a player at his position.
It's not uncommon for teams to use all their allotted time. This notion that using all their time means they are scrambling is complete bullshit. They prepare for any scenario.
...and that link you posted doesn't prove your point. The writer provides no proof whatsoever. Tampa trading up for Martin does NOT prove that Reese wanted Martin, it only suggests that Tampa thought the Giants would take him.
Wow. Whole Lotta Stupid in that article.
If you want to ignore that, so be it.
Until the Giants figure out a way to get run blocking that pushes the defensive line back, it doesn't matter who they put at running back.
The Giants also have much bigger issues with pass protection and lacking any receiver size who can win in tight spaces and jump balls.
I want a bruiser to go with Perkins .
McCaffrey pass-blocking