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NFT: MLB considering starting extra innings w runner on 2nd base

Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2017 11:12 pm
Good idea or messing with the game?
Report: MLB considering starting extra innings with runner on second base - ( New Window )
Messing up the game  
DennyInDenville : 2/8/2017 11:13 pm : link
Hope this never happens
Good idea tho  
DennyInDenville : 2/8/2017 11:13 pm : link
I like the thought process but no.

Maybe a runner on 1st would be okay. Maybe but no
why not just make every game  
GentleGiant : 2/8/2017 11:17 pm : link
3 innings to keep up with the iphone generation's attention span. Leave catering to the lowest denominator to football and basketball, keep baseball pure.
Huh?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/8/2017 11:18 pm : link
Is this going to fuck with relievers' stats because baseball is all about stats.
Seems like an unfair advantage  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2017 11:19 pm : link
for a team that happens to have a real speedster on their bench.
Talk about stupid.  
yatqb : 2/8/2017 11:22 pm : link
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Horrible  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2017 11:22 pm : link
I was with Manfred on the excrable shift, but this is pathetic.
Alternatively, they could just equip each seat with a snooze alarm.  
Marty in Albany : 2/8/2017 11:28 pm : link
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It's like something you come up with while doing drugs  
moespree : 2/8/2017 11:32 pm : link
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Now that is stupid.  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2017 12:10 am : link
Wow. I have heard some dumb shit in my life, but this is on another level.
Terrible idea  
JoeMoney19 : 2/9/2017 12:15 am : link
and no legitimate need to do it.
No  
shelovesnycsports : 2/9/2017 12:18 am : link
Stop messing with the game. It's Baseball there is not suppose to be a time limit on it.
The multitude of ways this could fuck the game up  
Kulish29 : 2/9/2017 12:26 am : link
are tremendous.

Stop trying to fix things that aren't fucking broken!
They start pulling this shit  
allstarjim : 2/9/2017 12:33 am : link
I'm out as a fan. And get rid of that horrendous DH rule already.
so  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/9/2017 12:35 am : link
baseball has an issue with the pace of the game and their solution is to change something that happens in only 9% of games?

Focus on limiting mound visits and enforce the pitch clock.
RE: They start pulling this shit  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/9/2017 12:39 am : link
In comment 13355075 allstarjim said:
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I'm out as a fan. And get rid of that horrendous DH rule already.


While I agree, many fans do not. And in any case, the union would have to approve it and they're never going to.
Sounds like something Roger Goodell  
B in ALB : 2/9/2017 1:05 am : link
would come up with.
SMH  
Mason : 2/9/2017 1:31 am : link
And if that does not work, MLB will consider this...  
JohnF : 2/9/2017 2:27 am : link
for extra innings...

The runner should have to be the manager  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2017 2:57 am : link
or the owner

I'd love to see Collins or Freddie Coupons running the bases.
I will say this  
English Alaister : 2/9/2017 5:09 am : link
it is a total pain in the ass when you go to a game and it runs to 5 hours and 16 innings. No-one needs that.

I think you could talk me into a runner on first but then I'm not precious about the game.
Silly idea  
mfsd : 2/9/2017 6:39 am : link
OK, the umps are never going to enforce the "shot clock" between pitches rules...so just fine a pitcher (and team) $10,000 every time he takes longer than 12 seconds to throw the next pitch

In the same vein, fine a batter $10,000 every time he steps out of the batters box after a pitch

Would have cost steroid boy Ortiz or that punk Josh Beckett a few hundred thousand a game, but overall could change players habits
Would not work.  
section125 : 2/9/2017 7:05 am : link
How fair is it when Team A has the middle of the order coming up and Team B has the bottom?
They would have to start with each team's top of the order coming to bat.
Never gonna happen  
mavric : 2/9/2017 7:17 am : link
I remember back in the days when Charlie Finley wanted to make major changes to MLB....orange or colored baseballs, hand signal for intentional walks instead of throwing 4 outside pitches, etc.

Baseball is steeped in tradition and those who want to radically change the game will hit the same wall that Charlie O hit - the desire to keep tradition
They should just move first and third bases closer to home...  
Milton : 2/9/2017 7:22 am : link
Make it 70 or 80 feet instead of 90 feet and forget about second base altogether, so that runners go directly from 1st to 3rd without the need to touch second base. In addition, during extra innings three balls is a walk and four strikes is a strike-out.

There you go, problem solved.
Put a windmill at second base  
Frank in Silver Spring : 2/9/2017 7:37 am : link
Maybe a clown's mouth - hit the ball through either one and game over, you win.
fuck no please make it stop.Why don't they just settle it with a  
Victor in CT : 2/9/2017 7:55 am : link
Home Run Derby, make it a joke like the NHL? Perhaps only 6 fielders in extra innings?

MLB is taking on all the worst aspects of the NFL tinkering with the game. Want to speed up the game? Enforce the existing rules re time between pitches, staying in the batters box, etc.

were it to happen, I would do what I do now for reg season NHL OT:  
Victor in CT : 2/9/2017 8:00 am : link
turn it off.
Why not  
Cruzin : 2/9/2017 8:02 am : link

They already have a softball lineup in the AL, why stop there, let's put in a designated runner rule so David Ortiz can play another 3 years.
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Ryan in Albany : 2/9/2017 8:06 am : link
Probably the worst idea in major sports history. This puts the soccer and hockey shootouts to shame.

If the game makes it to the 12th, the winner is decided by a managerial dance-off. Boom, problem solved.
RE: They start pulling this shit  
Tuckrule : 2/9/2017 8:40 am : link
In comment 13355075 allstarjim said:
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I'm out as a fan. And get rid of that horrendous DH rule already.


The DH makes the game better. I don't want to hear about strategy and double switches. People overrate managing in the NL it's actually easier. Considering you have an automatic out/sacrifice bunt from your 9 hitter. Pitchers shouldn't get a "break" with the 9 hitter. It kills rallies kills momentum it's just brutal to watch
baseballs answer to  
pjcas18 : 2/9/2017 8:41 am : link
hockey's 3v3/SO OT charade?
Gimmicky  
Suburbanites : 2/9/2017 11:49 am : link
Reminds me of the stupid college football OT rule where teams start at the 25 yard line. When you start screwing around with the fabric of the game you're well on the way to outright ruining the sport. Let's hope this one dies a quick death.
I really can't think of a worse rule  
Matt M. : 2/9/2017 11:53 am : link
This is terrible.
Figures someone would bring up the DH  
Greg from LI : 2/9/2017 11:57 am : link
Oh, how deprived we AL fans are in not seeing pitchers taking feeble swings and occasionally tapping one back to the pitcher or pop one up to shallow RF. Who doesn't want more batters who make Aaron Hicks look like Babe Ruth?
horrible idea  
Giants86 : 2/9/2017 12:16 pm : link
lol.
whatever the merits of the DH  
bluepepper : 2/9/2017 12:28 pm : link
it's been around now for close to 50 years. A couple of generation of baseball fans have grown up with it. That the NL would ok this extra inning rule and act like the DH is a desecration of the game is unfathomable to me.

I don't mind the DH  
pjcas18 : 2/9/2017 12:31 pm : link
I just think the AL and NL should play with the same rules.

They should both have a DH or both have pitchers bat.

And I don't care which way it goes, I tend to lean toward pitchers batting, just seems more pure then having a guy whose only job on the team is to hit when the pitcher comes up to bat, but I don't feel strongly either way.
Position players don't pitch  
Greg from LI : 2/9/2017 12:37 pm : link
So why should pitchers hit?
I really really hate  
RasputinPrime : 2/9/2017 12:41 pm : link
the suggestions to reduce the length of games. It's baseball. Leave it the fuck alone.
RE: Position players don't pitch  
pjcas18 : 2/9/2017 12:46 pm : link
In comment 13355440 Greg from LI said:
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So why should pitchers hit?


Thats like saying second basemen don't play first base so why should they hit. pitcher is a position in the field. in the field everyone has their job.

Or to flip your position, the DH doesn't play in the field, why should he bat? everyone else who bats (except PHers) plays in the field.

I'm not going to debate it. like i said i don't feel strongly. I really just think it should be consistent. And my gut says it should be pitchers batting, but if they decided to make DH's standard across leagues I wouldn't be bothered either.
I have always liked the idea of extending some stars' careers  
yatqb : 2/9/2017 1:43 pm : link
through the DH, but don't like losing the strategy involved in having the pitcher in the lineup

If it wouldn't screw with the statistics of the game I'd have been in favor of a DH AND the pitcher hitting, (i.e., ten player lineups).
There is a committe that considers options  
capone : 2/9/2017 1:52 pm : link
to speed up the game ,get more attention from the social media crowd etc.

They prefaced the study by pointing out how often a game is essentially over with a 2 run lead in the 7th, but the games get slower and People tune out.

Last year there was a presentation made that had studied the effect of allowing the manger to flip his lineup once a game. So if Sanchez hits a home run to tie the game for the yanks the manager could go out at that point and submit a new lineup and Sanchez is at the plate again etc.

They think would neutralize allot of bullpen strategy and create massive social media buzz as fans speculated as to when the manager would make his move.
the phrase "social media buzz" makes me want to kick a puppy  
Greg from LI : 2/9/2017 4:02 pm : link
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I'm not crazy about the DH, but am resigned to it. TheNL is about the  
Victor in CT : 2/9/2017 5:05 pm : link
only league in the world that doesn't use it.

Schemes like the "no pitch" intentional walk directly affect the integrity of the game, the possibility of the pitcher choking and uncorking a WP, the catcher with the yips launching one over the pitcher, or the pitch being close enough to hit a la Gary Sanchez.

The runner starting on 2nd in extra innings is beyond ridiculous. If that passes the only "real baseball" I'll be able to see is my son in Legion Ball
ther are also only 5 intentional walks on a given day  
capone : 2/9/2017 5:41 pm : link
so it saves 1 minute per Intentional walk or 5 of so...if there are fifteen 180 minute games a total of 2,700 minutes played on a given day .. 5 minutes saved is .18%

how stupid .. plus I agree the chance of a pitcher freaking out and throwing a 60mph scud is awesome...

The line-up flip discussion will be addresses again - its a BIG idea but would really make the game more exciting and they claim it will shorten the game
On a serious note  
JohnF : 2/9/2017 6:24 pm : link
The easiest way to handle extra innings is change a walk from four balls to three balls in extra innings. That would make scoring easier in extra innings, but still have some historical basis, as well as not making a radical change to the game.

Before 1890, you needed nine balls for a walk. That was whittled one at a time until the current limit of four was established in 1889.
How about  
spike : 2/9/2017 7:17 pm : link
Making the strikezone smaller in extras
They should play an inning with  
St. Jimmy : 2/9/2017 9:38 pm : link
7 fielders and then go to a home run derby.
Stupid  
micky : 2/10/2017 6:55 am : link
Why try and shorten the game. The game is fine and has been well over a century.

If people complain about being "too long"...no one is locking you in your seat at game..get up and leave. On tv..turn it off and do whatever. Stop messing with the product..as like the nfl stop messing with something not broken..period.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/10/2017 7:00 am : link
WTF? Is this a series idea?
Had to check that it wasn't  
Racer : 2/10/2017 8:54 am : link
April 1st.
Terrible ideal  
Section331 : 2/10/2017 9:46 am : link
Extra innings are the reason games are running too long? I'm all for thinking outside the box, but this is a horrible idea.
Why not implement this idea  
Tuckrule : 2/11/2017 8:55 pm : link
Let's say in the 15th inning. I would consider it like college football forcing you to go for 2 in the OT when it gets past a certain limit. This I could see being a legit experiment
Is this really a pressing issue?  
Knineteen : 2/11/2017 9:21 pm : link
Maybe focus on shortening innings 1-9 first?

4 hour regulation games are awesome and all, but I've got work in the morning.
This is bogus on a few levels  
Matt M. : 2/12/2017 6:56 am : link
First, this is just a bush league rule you would find in a little league, probably one that doesn't keep score. Second, and more importantly, how does this speed up games? How many games go to extra innings in a season? I would guess less than 10%, possibly less than 5. This doesn't address the issue of speeding up the 90+% of regulation games.

To me, this is just some stupid idea they fell in love with in a meeting and then tried to sell it to everyone as speeding things up. This would be one of the worst rule changes in all of sports, in my opinion and doesn't accomplish its supposed goal.
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