I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
and if any of it is true it affirms why I cannot stand her. His LeBron comparison is spot on, but she's actually far worse. I listen to the women in my office literally worship her every move and its insane to me.
The moment she "announced" she was pregnant and heard the women in my office gush over them I asked them "are there any other pregnant women in the world or is it just Beyonce".
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Fatman back with one of his classic observations
I just muted it and turned to doing other things. Â
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
comparison at this point is pretty silly, imo. President Nappy Head has some racial overtones to it - while Agent Orange refers to an old man using too much bronzer.
If Beyonce's kids are anything less than Jesus and Buddha Â
who thought a visibly overweight Busta’s appellation for the Prez was “creative awesomeness”. More like cringe-worthy and as unimaginative as Tribe’s latest album (the song Dis Generation aside).
Even if it were, surely you can recognize the difference between a racially coded stereotype and one that pokes fun at a bad spray tan.
To be honest, I’d always thought you above the fairly pitiable conservative persecution complex more at home with those possessive of far lower IQs.
they shoved a good portion of Beyonce's family down our throat too. Nice continuous shots of Jay Z, and they kids running around. They should just hold the awards at the 'Z' house next year. Also during the TCQ preformance, all 250 microphones worked, but only 50% worked for Metaligaga - which is probably for the better.
Beyonce is more talented than many on her give her credit for. I think she has shown to be a great performer and singer and has the ability to do both at the same time at a high energy that few performers can do.
That said, last night's "performance" was one of-- if not the most obnoxious, self-indulgent things I have ever seen. Suddenly she's the Virgin Mary, Earth Mother, and Sun Goddess all wrapped into one? Get out of here. Just obnoxious garbage.
that tackling appearance shouldn't be tolerated, and most definitely wouldn't be if the last President, or even if it was Bill Clinton were smeared for a comment about appearance.
I think I understand what Trump supporters go through Â
I thought Busta was dead. From the comments it would appear he rose from the dead and he and Beyoncé channelled Kanye while hating on the president. Very yawn worthy.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
Theres a reason why Agent Orange was said and no Mr. Pumpkin face or Mr. Orange Sherbet.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Hahahaha.
I guess it's good I skipped watching the Grammys. Actually can't remember the last time I even watched.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
As long people continue trying to justify one as worse than the other instead of admitting they're all counter-productive and juvenile, everything will still suck.
but if you think that previous presidents weren't made fun of for their appearance than you are sorely mistaken, really sorely mistaken.
Also, this particular president has opened the door for mocking peoples appearance with his own behavior on twitter etc.
I think it's also a sign of the times, I don't think we'll ever have a president again who doesn't have a strong social media presence.
I do think that wives and children should be off limits. The SNL writer was rightfully chided IMO for poking fun at Trumps kid and it was wrong when they did it to chelsea clinton 25 years ago.
but if you think that previous presidents weren't made fun of for their appearance than you are sorely mistaken, really sorely mistaken.
Also, this particular president has opened the door for mocking peoples appearance with his own behavior on twitter etc.
I think it's also a sign of the times, I don't think we'll ever have a president again who doesn't have a strong social media presence.
I do think that wives and children should be off limits. The SNL writer was rightfully chided IMO for poking fun at Trumps kid and it was wrong when they did it to chelsea clinton 25 years ago.
Melania should be off limits as well.
If the goal is to make fun of W. lisp, or Barack's ears or Trumps anything - thats fine. But Like I said.... agent orange was used for a particular reason and it was more than just his skin color.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
Theres a reason why Agent Orange was said and no Mr. Pumpkin face or Mr. Orange Sherbet.
It was political commentary (that isn't unearned...), not just some obtusely racist insult just because.
Do people seriously believe that there's some powerful elite Â
that want Beyonce to become this popular in an attempt to further some social agenda, rather than just line their pockets?
It's the entertainment industry - they care about money first. And second, third, and fourth. Over the years they've stood behind all kinds of shitty characters in order to cash in, and that's never going to change.
I think instead the average American is tired of being told what to do, say and believe by the media and social elites who live in a bubble and if they disagree made to feel like they are a terrible person.
Who was the girl who called for the Grammys crowd to bring the same enthusiasm to a Dakota pipeline protest? Trainwreck.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them and so they continue to hurt their own "cause".
I think instead the average American is tired of being told what to do, say and believe by the media and social elites who live in a bubble and if they disagree made to feel like they are a terrible person.
Who was the girl who called for the Grammys crowd to bring the same enthusiasm to a Dakota pipeline protest? Trainwreck.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them and so they continue to hurt their own "cause".
I think you're vastly overestimating the average American.
If that's the way they felt, the ratings on shitshows like these (and I'm going by description, I didn't watch) would be poor.
If Americans were tired of celebs, they wouldn't have elected a reality star into the Oval Office, and they wouldn't be watching nearly enough of poorly behaved housewives for them to demand high salaries.
The average American is feeding this monster, and then turning around and bitching about it.
If you think America voted in Trump because he was on a reality TV show, you really missed the point the last 2 years.
Yeah, it was just an outsider vote, had nothing to do with his celebrity status. If that's what you think, please resume your rant, my post won't benefit you in any way.
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Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them
Agreed. It does seem like most people have the right idea though to show these elites that we don't care about their opinion which is to give clicks to sites who write about them, share it on Facebook with a one-liner saying something about how we don't care, and then crying on BBI. Some even say "LIKE AND SHARE IF YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN." Very catchy.
Calling her a singer is like calling Michael Jackson a singer... Just not the case. She's an entertainer and its clear that's she is currently the best entertainer in the world, her live performances are on a different level than anyone else's. She killed it last night IMO.
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away omg i wish some woman would talk to me like that.
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away omg i wish some woman would talk to me like that.
Calling her a singer is like calling Michael Jackson a singer... Just not the case. She's an entertainer and its clear that's she is currently the best entertainer in the world, her live performances are on a different level than anyone else's. She killed it last night IMO.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them and so they continue to hurt their own "cause".
While this is a good talking point I've heard often the last 6 months, I see no evidence to suggest this is true. Besides the 90 million eligible people to vote who didn't (so we don't actually know what the majority of the country thinks), the fact award shows, housewife shows, reality game shows, reality voyeur shows, entertainment magazine shows, celebrity talk shows, celebrity interviews on talk shows, red carpet fashion shows still exist would seem to indicate that no, "a very large majority of the country" has not had enough.
1986 you're a moron
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Her entire career is based on one skill. Singing. If she didn't sing noone would have a clue who she was. Get a grip fanboy.
What a simplistic, black and white way to look at life. His point about Jackson shows why. So to use your logic since no one would have known who Michael Jackson is if he hadn't been a singer that means he is not a dancer, actor, entertainer, etc.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
That windbag has dealt out his fair share of attacks on people's appearance. If he can't deal it coming back his way, he's a bigger pussy than I already think he is.
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
That windbag has dealt out his fair share of attacks on people's appearance. If he can't deal with it coming back his way, he's a bigger pussy than I already think he is.
turning the "advantage" for the left of having the rich & famous pimp your product into a stark disadvantage (Thomas Frank wrote a great book about it a number of years back).
Generally sympathetic to their policy prescriptions, even I find them mostly nauseating. In large part because, with some exceptions like Matt Damon and John Legend (off the top of my head), they're just not very bright.
The irony - one that is not lost on the more mentally aware & discerning among us - is that the eye-rollers will then turn around and vote for huge tax cuts to 7 figure capital gains and ditching the estate tax...policies which don't just cater to the elite (be they in Hollywood, Wall Street, or Wichita and Omaha) but which cater to them while simultaneously sucking them off with multiple fingers up their bleached assholes.
turning the "advantage" for the left of having the rich & famous pimp your product into a stark disadvantage (Thomas Frank wrote a great book about it a number of years back).
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
turning the "advantage" for the left of having the rich & famous pimp your product into a stark disadvantage (Thomas Frank wrote a great book about it a number of years back).
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
Right. I love how the left colluded so that all scientists, and professors, you know, individual free-thinkers who've explicitly devoted their lives to learning and expanding human understanding, would mindlessly parrot liberal talking points.
but if you think every free and independent-thinking intelligent person is of a single mind about politics or much of anything I don't know what to tell you.
but if you think every free and independent-thinking intelligent person is of a single mind about politics or much of anything I don't know what to tell you.
That's exactly my point. I shouldn't have taken the bait either. I'm out.
Clint Eastwood's entire career is based on one skill. Acting. Â
before the ban on political threads became more or less inflexible, was that people actually emerged from echo chambers to talk about things, because BBI gathers a pretty wide breadth of viewpoints and backgrounds and we're here for a purpose other than to talk politics. Self-selecting political audiences tend to be much more homogenous.
My question is, for the people who watched the Grammy's Â
before the ban on political threads became more or less inflexible, was that people actually emerged from echo chambers to talk about things, because BBI gathers a pretty wide breadth of viewpoints and backgrounds and we're here for a purpose other than to talk politics. Self-selecting political audiences tend to be much more homogenous.
I strongly agree with this. While it was never a particularly successful undertaking on BBI, I think the angles from which it's been approached within this thread shows evidence that many of us are used to speaking about these issues among those who mostly already agree. Myself included.
RE: My question is, for the people who watched the Grammy's Â
If he didn't act noone would have a clue who he was. Don't ever call him a director and especially not a producer. Get a grip fanboy.
Eastwood isn't a great director? The two Oscars for best director, he found those in a Cracker Jack box? I mean, I knew you weren't overly bright but you don't need to advertise that fact.
turning the "advantage" for the left of having the rich & famous pimp your product into a stark disadvantage (Thomas Frank wrote a great book about it a number of years back).
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
Right. I love how the left colluded so that all scientists, and professors, you know, individual free-thinkers who've explicitly devoted their lives to learning and expanding human understanding, would mindlessly parrot liberal talking points.
Speaking of doctrinal absolutism. And please tell me who all these scientists and professors are who are going on these rants during awards shows.
RE: RE: Clint Eastwood's entire career is based on one skill. Acting. Â
If he didn't act noone would have a clue who he was. Don't ever call him a director and especially not a producer. Get a grip fanboy.
Eastwood isn't a great director? The two Oscars for best director, he found those in a Cracker Jack box? I mean, I knew you weren't overly bright but you don't need to advertise that fact.
Then why are you bothering yourself with watching her performance? It clearly wasn't meant for you.
Personally, I don't like Keith Urban - so if I see him on Grammys I just change the channel and keep my mouth shut about it (because ranting about the performance of an artist that you don't like only makes you sound like the douche).
I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
I understand your larger point about calling out the POTUS, but I do want to throw in there that there's a substantial difference between a bad tan and calling someone out on a caricature of a racial feature.
Seriously, music is the biggest passion in my life, and being a musician is part of who I am, but I cannot understand why anyone gives a shit about the Grammy's to be honest.
Especially with the fragmentation of the music industry and the fact that it no longer funnels up through the major label system that provided a shared sense of culturally relevant music (to an extent, at least -- much moreso than exists today)
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
While no doubt contributors to the demise of their own ideas (although not their wallets, which obviously benefit from GOP policies) the decrying of supposed "elitism" has been a hallmark of the right wing playbook for years.
Endless shouting of the likes of "limousine liberal" and "big city bubble" and "the real America" duly drowns out their incessant whispers of "keep cutting that capital gains tax....they're paying attention to Clooney and Streep...just keep cutting it."
Then why are you bothering yourself with watching her performance? It clearly wasn't meant for you.
Personally, I don't like Keith Urban - so if I see him on Grammys I just change the channel and keep my mouth shut about it (because ranting about the performance of an artist that you don't like only makes you sound like the douche).
Pretty much.
RE: she's so classy, you can see why she's concerned about public discours Â
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away
Entertainment lyrics and public discourse are completely different. This just seems irrelevant.
Wow, this is better than the actual Grammy thread Â
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
While no doubt contributors to the demise of their own ideas (although not their wallets, which obviously benefit from GOP policies) the decrying of supposed "elitism" has been a hallmark of the right wing playbook for years.
Endless shouting of the likes of "limousine liberal" and "big city bubble" and "the real America" duly drowns out their incessant whispers of "keep cutting that capital gains tax....they're paying attention to Clooney and Streep...just keep cutting it."
Actually, I think "flyover country" and "clinging to their guns and religion" (even if they owned no guns) was even more effective. Add to that the nationwide middle to upper middle class exclamation beginning around 23 years ago of "what the hell is AMT?" when the minimum AMT rate got jacked up by the '93 tax bill.
and she works very hard at her craft. I don't particularly care for her music and I agree that this deification of her is over the top and silly, but you don't have to run her down to make your point.
In comment 13359448 EricJ said:
[quote] In comment 13359298 AnnapolisMike said:
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But last night was a little too much. I have tuned out awards shows like I have tuned out Facebook.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing. [/quote
This might surprise you, but, it's Beyonce's singing as a solo artist and member of Destiny's Child that has made her both fortunate and relevant. And I say this as someone who could not be less of a fan of her music or style.
RE: Beyonce is a supremely talented entertainer... Â
and she works very hard at her craft. I don't particularly care for her music and I agree that this deification of her is over the top and silly, but you don't have to run her down to make your point.
Agreed. That being said, Adele blows here away.
RE: Beyonce is a supremely talented entertainer... Â
I guess she is talented. But, let's not overstate just how talented she is. She doesn't write her music or lyrics, but insists on writing credits for every album because that is where the money is. That's just one example.
But last night was a little too much. I have tuned out awards shows like I have tuned out Facebook.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing.
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yeah... really. Half of the fools in American Idol can sing that. Seriously the singing in that video you posted is NOT anything special. For the average person yes but not for a 'singer".
Her last one was so self-serving and narcissistic, so why should this come as a surprise? When she gave birth the first time around she bought out the maternity ward at Lennox Hill in Manhattan, although the hospital denied it was "bought out". Parents with infants in NICU were barred from seeing their children while Beyonce was in the hospital and no visitors were allowed in the ward. It was disgusting. I thank G-d all the time that my daughter was born a couple of weeks later, because I would have ended up in jail had they tried to bar me from being in the hospital with my wife and newborn.
Of course, after the fact they said the money went to build a private maternity suite, but that is BS. they have private rooms, but this was different. Luxury facilities the equivalent of something like half a floor. It was really disgraceful, but the worst was how she and her husband got a pass for the most part.
But last night was a little too much. I have tuned out awards shows like I have tuned out Facebook.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing.
Really? Here. - ( New Window )
yeah... really. Half of the fools in American Idol can sing that. Seriously the singing in that video you posted is NOT anything special. For the average person yes but not for a 'singer".
Oh man, you capitalized NOT so you must really mean it. I should have known not to get into it with Mr. Swizzle Stick himself. Please don't stab me, sir.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: She is talented and relevant Â
Oh man, you capitalized NOT so you must really mean it. I should have known not to get into it with Mr. Swizzle Stick himself. Please don't stab me, sir.
Funny... still, she can't fucking sing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: She is talented and relevant Â
Oh man, you capitalized NOT so you must really mean it. I should have known not to get into it with Mr. Swizzle Stick himself. Please don't stab me, sir.
Funny... still, she can't fucking sing.
You forgot to add, "In my opinion."
She can 'fucking sing'. This has been proven. It's actually indisputable fact. For some reason, you're letting the animosity towards the message she was presenting jade you to simple facts.
territories soon. This game is a youth thing in terms of music sales. Soon you will see here pimping to young guys, some gay, some hipsters. Until they finally realize she is the age of their mom and then move on...all explained by the rising adoption slope, maturity then the next wave replaces you. She wants her $$$ going out and probably using the baby thing like that Kardashian woman does as well. How she goes about entertainment is predictable but to turn her own pregnancy into an act to me is a bit self-serving....nothing is safe anymore. Aside from that she is not the smartest person walking around if you have ever listened to her for more than 5m.
Beyonce is one of the most overrated singers of all time. Â
Carlos Santana on Beyoncé’s GRAMMY Loss: ‘She’s Not a Singer’
“I think that Adele won because she can sing, sing,” Santana told the Australian Associated Press (via New Zealand Herald).
To make matters worse, he also tried to qualify the difference between Adele’s talent and Beyoncé’s. “With all respect to our sister Beyoncé,” he said, “Beyoncé is very beautiful to look at and it’s more like modeling kind of music—music to model a dress—she’s not a singer, singer, with all respect to her.” Link - ( New Window )
Carlos Santana on Beyoncé’s GRAMMY Loss: ‘She’s Not a Singer’
“I think that Adele won because she can sing, sing,” Santana told the Australian Associated Press (via New Zealand Herald).
To make matters worse, he also tried to qualify the difference between Adele’s talent and Beyoncé’s. “With all respect to our sister Beyoncé,” he said, “Beyoncé is very beautiful to look at and it’s more like modeling kind of music—music to model a dress—she’s not a singer, singer, with all respect to her.” Link - ( New Window )
he then said it was taken out of context..
oh well. Her music isnt even music half the time but just a story being told with music in the background.
And then she's up there with her golden card reading some inane speech. Get over yourself, honey.
Explain to me why I should care that Beyonce is pregnant again?
And Adele felating her was nauseating.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
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The moment she "announced" she was pregnant and heard the women in my office gush over them I asked them "are there any other pregnant women in the world or is it just Beyonce".
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
We are living in a wild time, for sure.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Fatman back with one of his classic observations
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I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Fatman back with one of his classic observations
Yes and thankfully so.
Even if it were, surely you can recognize the difference between a racially coded stereotype and one that pokes fun at a bad spray tan.
To be honest, I’d always thought you above the fairly pitiable conservative persecution complex more at home with those possessive of far lower IQs.
Lots of great indy stuff, but mainstream contemporary music is overwhelmingly poor.
That said, last night's "performance" was one of-- if not the most obnoxious, self-indulgent things I have ever seen. Suddenly she's the Virgin Mary, Earth Mother, and Sun Goddess all wrapped into one? Get out of here. Just obnoxious garbage.
This. Can't believe BBI watches the Grammys.
I thought Busta was dead. From the comments it would appear he rose from the dead and he and Beyoncé channelled Kanye while hating on the president. Very yawn worthy.
That's the vibe I got
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it was a shameful event. One thing that I know for sure.... a lot of people who want to "unite" are far more concern with "dividing."
That's the vibe I got
Yup.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
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I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
Theres a reason why Agent Orange was said and no Mr. Pumpkin face or Mr. Orange Sherbet.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Hahahaha.
I guess it's good I skipped watching the Grammys. Actually can't remember the last time I even watched.
How did Views get nominated for best album???
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I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
As long people continue trying to justify one as worse than the other instead of admitting they're all counter-productive and juvenile, everything will still suck.
Also, this particular president has opened the door for mocking peoples appearance with his own behavior on twitter etc.
I think it's also a sign of the times, I don't think we'll ever have a president again who doesn't have a strong social media presence.
I do think that wives and children should be off limits. The SNL writer was rightfully chided IMO for poking fun at Trumps kid and it was wrong when they did it to chelsea clinton 25 years ago.
Melania should be off limits as well.
Also, this particular president has opened the door for mocking peoples appearance with his own behavior on twitter etc.
I think it's also a sign of the times, I don't think we'll ever have a president again who doesn't have a strong social media presence.
I do think that wives and children should be off limits. The SNL writer was rightfully chided IMO for poking fun at Trumps kid and it was wrong when they did it to chelsea clinton 25 years ago.
Melania should be off limits as well.
If the goal is to make fun of W. lisp, or Barack's ears or Trumps anything - thats fine. But Like I said.... agent orange was used for a particular reason and it was more than just his skin color.
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In comment 13358851 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I can't imagine the amount of indignation that would happen if Obama was called President Nappy Head or something along those lines, but yet we will file President Agent Orange under the heading of creative awesomeness.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
Big Breitbart Interactive at it again.
Those aren't remotely comparable insults.
Theres a reason why Agent Orange was said and no Mr. Pumpkin face or Mr. Orange Sherbet.
It was political commentary (that isn't unearned...), not just some obtusely racist insult just because.
It's the entertainment industry - they care about money first. And second, third, and fourth. Over the years they've stood behind all kinds of shitty characters in order to cash in, and that's never going to change.
I was about to say "Well, somebody did."
I think instead the average American is tired of being told what to do, say and believe by the media and social elites who live in a bubble and if they disagree made to feel like they are a terrible person.
Who was the girl who called for the Grammys crowd to bring the same enthusiasm to a Dakota pipeline protest? Trainwreck.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them and so they continue to hurt their own "cause".
I think instead the average American is tired of being told what to do, say and believe by the media and social elites who live in a bubble and if they disagree made to feel like they are a terrible person.
Who was the girl who called for the Grammys crowd to bring the same enthusiasm to a Dakota pipeline protest? Trainwreck.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them and so they continue to hurt their own "cause".
I think you're vastly overestimating the average American.
If that's the way they felt, the ratings on shitshows like these (and I'm going by description, I didn't watch) would be poor.
If Americans were tired of celebs, they wouldn't have elected a reality star into the Oval Office, and they wouldn't be watching nearly enough of poorly behaved housewives for them to demand high salaries.
The average American is feeding this monster, and then turning around and bitching about it.
Yeah, it was just an outsider vote, had nothing to do with his celebrity status. If that's what you think, please resume your rant, my post won't benefit you in any way.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them
Agreed. It does seem like most people have the right idea though to show these elites that we don't care about their opinion which is to give clicks to sites who write about them, share it on Facebook with a one-liner saying something about how we don't care, and then crying on BBI. Some even say "LIKE AND SHARE IF YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN." Very catchy.
Not on a sunday night when there are no good sports on. Last night after the Wisconsin and UVA games were over it was absolute shit.
Do old people do anything other than complain about award shows between Bingo matches?
Die, sometimes.
Old people (this thread) ruined social media for kids like you and I.
I want to make sure I don't get ensnared in their trap.
I didn't know the grammys were even on. We watched Homeland and went to bed.
I want to make sure I don't get ensnared in their trap.
I didn't know the grammys were even on. We watched Homeland and went to bed.
Obviously, it's to give us all the gay.
Besides your mom? No, not really.
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Besides your mom? No, not really.
But everyone has done that.
Calling her a singer is like calling Michael Jackson a singer... Just not the case. She's an entertainer and its clear that's she is currently the best entertainer in the world, her live performances are on a different level than anyone else's. She killed it last night IMO.
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
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"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away omg i wish some woman would talk to me like that.
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her lyrics are so poetic, such as:
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away omg i wish some woman would talk to me like that.
too FUNNY Brown Recluse!
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Calling her a singer is like calling Michael Jackson a singer... Just not the case. She's an entertainer and its clear that's she is currently the best entertainer in the world, her live performances are on a different level than anyone else's. She killed it last night IMO.
If you mean she killed the show, I agree.
Many of these people don't realize that a very large majority of the country has had enough of them and so they continue to hurt their own "cause".
While this is a good talking point I've heard often the last 6 months, I see no evidence to suggest this is true. Besides the 90 million eligible people to vote who didn't (so we don't actually know what the majority of the country thinks), the fact award shows, housewife shows, reality game shows, reality voyeur shows, entertainment magazine shows, celebrity talk shows, celebrity interviews on talk shows, red carpet fashion shows still exist would seem to indicate that no, "a very large majority of the country" has not had enough.
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Her entire career is based on one skill. Singing. If she didn't sing noone would have a clue who she was. Get a grip fanboy.
What a simplistic, black and white way to look at life. His point about Jackson shows why. So to use your logic since no one would have known who Michael Jackson is if he hadn't been a singer that means he is not a dancer, actor, entertainer, etc.
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never mind...
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
That windbag has dealt out his fair share of attacks on people's appearance. If he can't deal it coming back his way, he's a bigger pussy than I already think he is.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
That windbag has dealt out his fair share of attacks on people's appearance. If he can't deal with it coming back his way, he's a bigger pussy than I already think he is.
Generally sympathetic to their policy prescriptions, even I find them mostly nauseating. In large part because, with some exceptions like Matt Damon and John Legend (off the top of my head), they're just not very bright.
The irony - one that is not lost on the more mentally aware & discerning among us - is that the eye-rollers will then turn around and vote for huge tax cuts to 7 figure capital gains and ditching the estate tax...policies which don't just cater to the elite (be they in Hollywood, Wall Street, or Wichita and Omaha) but which cater to them while simultaneously sucking them off with multiple fingers up their bleached assholes.
Yeah, that's really dumb. Please don't use it as a brush to paint many reasonable people who wouldn't agree.
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
It's totally true, songs and performances are not supposed to [is]say[/i] anything, ever!
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turning the "advantage" for the left of having the rich & famous pimp your product into a stark disadvantage (Thomas Frank wrote a great book about it a number of years back).
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
Right. I love how the left colluded so that all scientists, and professors, you know, individual free-thinkers who've explicitly devoted their lives to learning and expanding human understanding, would mindlessly parrot liberal talking points.
That's exactly my point. I shouldn't have taken the bait either. I'm out.
I can't remember the last awards show I've actually sat through and watched. Maybe the AMA's when MC Hammer was popular?
I strongly agree with this. While it was never a particularly successful undertaking on BBI, I think the angles from which it's been approached within this thread shows evidence that many of us are used to speaking about these issues among those who mostly already agree. Myself included.
I can't remember the last awards show I've actually sat through and watched. Maybe the AMA's when MC Hammer was popular?
Pretty much what I was thinking while reading this thread. Some of the things some of you guys complain about are pretty weird.
Eastwood isn't a great director? The two Oscars for best director, he found those in a Cracker Jack box? I mean, I knew you weren't overly bright but you don't need to advertise that fact.
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turning the "advantage" for the left of having the rich & famous pimp your product into a stark disadvantage (Thomas Frank wrote a great book about it a number of years back).
Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
Right. I love how the left colluded so that all scientists, and professors, you know, individual free-thinkers who've explicitly devoted their lives to learning and expanding human understanding, would mindlessly parrot liberal talking points.
Speaking of doctrinal absolutism. And please tell me who all these scientists and professors are who are going on these rants during awards shows.
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If he didn't act noone would have a clue who he was. Don't ever call him a director and especially not a producer. Get a grip fanboy.
Eastwood isn't a great director? The two Oscars for best director, he found those in a Cracker Jack box? I mean, I knew you weren't overly bright but you don't need to advertise that fact.
I think his post was tongue-in-cheek.
Personally, I don't like Keith Urban - so if I see him on Grammys I just change the channel and keep my mouth shut about it (because ranting about the performance of an artist that you don't like only makes you sound like the douche).
I think his post was tongue-in-cheek.
Just let it happen.
Award shows ironically just highlight the hypocrisy that insult throwing one direction is OK - the other direction, not so much.
I understand your larger point about calling out the POTUS, but I do want to throw in there that there's a substantial difference between a bad tan and calling someone out on a caricature of a racial feature.
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Especially with the fragmentation of the music industry and the fact that it no longer funnels up through the major label system that provided a shared sense of culturally relevant music (to an extent, at least -- much moreso than exists today)
While no doubt contributors to the demise of their own ideas (although not their wallets, which obviously benefit from GOP policies) the decrying of supposed "elitism" has been a hallmark of the right wing playbook for years.
Endless shouting of the likes of "limousine liberal" and "big city bubble" and "the real America" duly drowns out their incessant whispers of "keep cutting that capital gains tax....they're paying attention to Clooney and Streep...just keep cutting it."
Personally, I don't like Keith Urban - so if I see him on Grammys I just change the channel and keep my mouth shut about it (because ranting about the performance of an artist that you don't like only makes you sound like the douche).
Pretty much.
"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/ Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f---/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/ He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/ Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/ Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down"
or
"I came to slay bitch, when he F me good I take his ass to red lobster"
a total pig. just go away
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Actually, through their haughty condescension and doctrinal absolutism they did the right's job for them.
While no doubt contributors to the demise of their own ideas (although not their wallets, which obviously benefit from GOP policies) the decrying of supposed "elitism" has been a hallmark of the right wing playbook for years.
Endless shouting of the likes of "limousine liberal" and "big city bubble" and "the real America" duly drowns out their incessant whispers of "keep cutting that capital gains tax....they're paying attention to Clooney and Streep...just keep cutting it."
Actually, I think "flyover country" and "clinging to their guns and religion" (even if they owned no guns) was even more effective. Add to that the nationwide middle to upper middle class exclamation beginning around 23 years ago of "what the hell is AMT?" when the minimum AMT rate got jacked up by the '93 tax bill.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing.
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But last night was a little too much. I have tuned out awards shows like I have tuned out Facebook.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing.
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This might surprise you, but, it's Beyonce's singing as a solo artist and member of Destiny's Child that has made her both fortunate and relevant. And I say this as someone who could not be less of a fan of her music or style.
Agreed. That being said, Adele blows here away.
For some, unfortunately that's the only way they know to make a point.
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But last night was a little too much. I have tuned out awards shows like I have tuned out Facebook.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing.
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yeah... really. Half of the fools in American Idol can sing that. Seriously the singing in that video you posted is NOT anything special. For the average person yes but not for a 'singer".
Of course, after the fact they said the money went to build a private maternity suite, but that is BS. they have private rooms, but this was different. Luxury facilities the equivalent of something like half a floor. It was really disgraceful, but the worst was how she and her husband got a pass for the most part.
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But last night was a little too much. I have tuned out awards shows like I have tuned out Facebook.
No... she is fortunate and that has made her relevant. There are far more talented women out there. Still waiting for Beyonce to sing.
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yeah... really. Half of the fools in American Idol can sing that. Seriously the singing in that video you posted is NOT anything special. For the average person yes but not for a 'singer".
Oh man, you capitalized NOT so you must really mean it. I should have known not to get into it with Mr. Swizzle Stick himself. Please don't stab me, sir.
Oh man, you capitalized NOT so you must really mean it. I should have known not to get into it with Mr. Swizzle Stick himself. Please don't stab me, sir.
Funny... still, she can't fucking sing.
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Oh man, you capitalized NOT so you must really mean it. I should have known not to get into it with Mr. Swizzle Stick himself. Please don't stab me, sir.
Funny... still, she can't fucking sing.
You forgot to add, "In my opinion."
She can 'fucking sing'. This has been proven. It's actually indisputable fact. For some reason, you're letting the animosity towards the message she was presenting jade you to simple facts.
Give her dad credit for manufacturing her.
does her "look at me im a sun goddess" attention seeking shit sway my judgement on her? you bet your ass..
the media plays a part too as they kiss her ass even more. She isnt that big of a deal and stop ramming this person down my throat. I dont care.
Her fans are even worse. Oh my god.
“I think that Adele won because she can sing, sing,” Santana told the Australian Associated Press (via New Zealand Herald).
To make matters worse, he also tried to qualify the difference between Adele’s talent and Beyoncé’s. “With all respect to our sister Beyoncé,” he said, “Beyoncé is very beautiful to look at and it’s more like modeling kind of music—music to model a dress—she’s not a singer, singer, with all respect to her.”
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“I think that Adele won because she can sing, sing,” Santana told the Australian Associated Press (via New Zealand Herald).
To make matters worse, he also tried to qualify the difference between Adele’s talent and Beyoncé’s. “With all respect to our sister Beyoncé,” he said, “Beyoncé is very beautiful to look at and it’s more like modeling kind of music—music to model a dress—she’s not a singer, singer, with all respect to her.” Link - ( New Window )
he then said it was taken out of context..
oh well. Her music isnt even music half the time but just a story being told with music in the background.