the guy was what...26 at the time? BArely ever injured. showing no signs of regression. You have a 30 year old QB. How do you not sign Cruz? Tough sell there. Easy to second guess now. Cruz was a safer bet than signing Snacks Harrison last spring. For starters, Cruz has produced as a Giant. Great off the field. Signing Cruz was a no brainer. It just blew up. Every signing is a risk. With inaction comes risk too.
Hey I was in the same boat at the time. I was pissed when they didn't bring back Manningham, as I thought they had a great thing with those three guys together. I wanted them all signed long term.
my brother in law (season ticket for Jet owner) took me to the game. Fans were still in buying into Rex mode giving me "the business". Then 3rd and 10, late in the 2nd quarter, down 7-3, #80 with the 99 yard TD! Changed the game and was probably where the Superbowl was built upon!
It's a travesty that we, as Giants fans, never got to see the real VC and OBJ on the field together at the same time.
I hope that if nobody signs him, we can bring him to camp fro the vet minimum. I think there's a chance he might have still been recovering, and that he can come back and contribute in some form.
Nothing concrete, but just getting a weird vibe from him since his pre-calf injury days. Cruz has a lot of off-the-field options. I'm not sure how important the game really is to him anymore. But he wasn't going to kiss that fat contract goodbye the Giants were giving him.
Nothing concrete, but just getting a weird vibe from him since his pre-calf injury days. Cruz has a lot of off-the-field options. I'm not sure how important the game really is to him anymore. But he wasn't going to kiss that fat contract goodbye the Giants were giving him.
If that were the case, he wouldn't have scratched and clawed to get back on the field in '16.
Nothing concrete, but just getting a weird vibe from him since his pre-calf injury days. Cruz has a lot of off-the-field options. I'm not sure how important the game really is to him anymore. But he wasn't going to kiss that fat contract goodbye the Giants were giving him.
If that were the case, he wouldn't have scratched and clawed to get back on the field in '16.
He had no choice or he was getting cut last pre-season. They basically gave him an ultimatum with 2 games left in the pre-season that if he didn't get on the field and show he can do it, he was gone. He was cleared well before he appeared in a game but he kept "tweaking" things and kept himself out. I don't believe the team was confident he was fully mentally invested. That's kinda the harsh reality.
Doesn't diminish what he did for the franchise pre-injury. His 2011 was legendary and we dont win a title without him.
See how he would have done in the slot in a 4 WR set. But BM refused to change his formations.
THIS. and I was just thinking about Cruz and how he had another offseason to strengthen his leg and come back stronger next year.
Like you, I would have liked to see Cruz back in the slot, a second year away from his injuries. But I guess it's not to be.
As for Cruz not especially wanting to be back in football, I can't say for myself but it really appeared that he had thrown himself into difficult rehabilitation and wanted nothing better than to be back on the field.
2010 - One great pre-season game
2011 - Great Season
2012 - Good/Great Season
2013 - Meh
2014 - Injured
2015 - Guest Starred on Ballers
2016 - Meh
Hasn't been a huge factor since 2012.
Bye
There was no real drop off from 2012 to 2013. In terms of yards gained and yards per reception, Cruz's 2013 season was on track to be just as good as 2012 (or even somewhat better) until he was injured in Week 15 game vs Seahawks. That happened on a high pass where he sacrificed his body making the effort and came down with a concussion and knee sprain.
And his 2011 season ranks with the greatest seasons any Giants' receiver has ever had.
You don't do all that rehab if your heart isn't in it.
And everyone and their mother thought it was a great idea to re-sign him while still leaving available funds for Nicks. That's what a catastrophic injury like a patella tear does. Does Cruz have a lot of options after football? Sure. It's not outlandish to think so. But for area junc to say with absolute certainty that he doesn't care about football on the day he was cut, that strikes me as wrong. Especially when he spends a lot of his time pursuing this faux insider status in which Anthony Davis is a Giant, and the secrets of the 2005 Bears/Giants halftime shall never be uttered.
you don't come back from a brutal injury--rehabbing for two years if you don't care.
Just because Cruz wasn't productive doesn't mean he didn't do everything he could to play at the highest level. He was playing out of position. He's lost a step. And he was the 3rd or 4th option in a struggling offense. That's why he's no longer a Giant.
This
Hey I was in the same boat at the time. I was pissed when they didn't bring back Manningham, as I thought they had a great thing with those three guys together. I wanted them all signed long term.
It turns out I could not have been more wrong.
Thank You Victor!
Thank you Victor!
Thank you VC!
Good luck VC!
Save whats left of the knee.
I hope that if nobody signs him, we can bring him to camp fro the vet minimum. I think there's a chance he might have still been recovering, and that he can come back and contribute in some form.
but then again, better to burn out, than to fade away. (Even though he did kinda fade away this season.)
No worries.
A great New York Giant.
Thanks for your work, Victor!
THIS. and I was just thinking about Cruz and how he had another offseason to strengthen his leg and come back stronger next year.
In those 4 seasons, he averaged 70 catches, 1053 yards and 6 TDs.
Damn injuries.
All-time Giant.
Da fuq?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/13/news/victor-cruz-nfl-money/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom
Total cheap-shot.
With all your faux insider bullshit, you remain one of the worst posters around here.
Nothing concrete, but just getting a weird vibe from him since his pre-calf injury days. Cruz has a lot of off-the-field options. I'm not sure how important the game really is to him anymore. But he wasn't going to kiss that fat contract goodbye the Giants were giving him.
2010 - One great pre-season game
2011 - Great Season
2012 - Good/Great Season
2013 - Meh
2014 - Injured
2015 - Guest Starred on Ballers
2016 - Meh
Hasn't been a huge factor since 2012.
Bye
Nothing concrete, but just getting a weird vibe from him since his pre-calf injury days. Cruz has a lot of off-the-field options. I'm not sure how important the game really is to him anymore. But he wasn't going to kiss that fat contract goodbye the Giants were giving him.
If that were the case, he wouldn't have scratched and clawed to get back on the field in '16.
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I'm not sure area junc is too far off here.
Nothing concrete, but just getting a weird vibe from him since his pre-calf injury days. Cruz has a lot of off-the-field options. I'm not sure how important the game really is to him anymore. But he wasn't going to kiss that fat contract goodbye the Giants were giving him.
If that were the case, he wouldn't have scratched and clawed to get back on the field in '16.
He had no choice or he was getting cut last pre-season. They basically gave him an ultimatum with 2 games left in the pre-season that if he didn't get on the field and show he can do it, he was gone. He was cleared well before he appeared in a game but he kept "tweaking" things and kept himself out. I don't believe the team was confident he was fully mentally invested. That's kinda the harsh reality.
Doesn't diminish what he did for the franchise pre-injury. His 2011 was legendary and we dont win a title without him.
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See how he would have done in the slot in a 4 WR set. But BM refused to change his formations.
THIS. and I was just thinking about Cruz and how he had another offseason to strengthen his leg and come back stronger next year.
Like you, I would have liked to see Cruz back in the slot, a second year away from his injuries. But I guess it's not to be.
As for Cruz not especially wanting to be back in football, I can't say for myself but it really appeared that he had thrown himself into difficult rehabilitation and wanted nothing better than to be back on the field.
But as for me, I have no knowledge.
2010 - One great pre-season game
2011 - Great Season
2012 - Good/Great Season
2013 - Meh
2014 - Injured
2015 - Guest Starred on Ballers
2016 - Meh
Hasn't been a huge factor since 2012.
Bye
There was no real drop off from 2012 to 2013. In terms of yards gained and yards per reception, Cruz's 2013 season was on track to be just as good as 2012 (or even somewhat better) until he was injured in Week 15 game vs Seahawks. That happened on a high pass where he sacrificed his body making the effort and came down with a concussion and knee sprain.
And his 2011 season ranks with the greatest seasons any Giants' receiver has ever had.
He would have cared, but someone lied to him about the Giants signing Anthony Davis. Totally bummed him out.
And BBI hasn't cared about your horse shit musings for quite some time.
You don't play in the NFL for a full year without caring and live to tell about it.
Just because Cruz wasn't productive doesn't mean he didn't do everything he could to play at the highest level. He was playing out of position. He's lost a step. And he was the 3rd or 4th option in a struggling offense. That's why he's no longer a Giant.
Oh shut it for fucks sake. New England never re-signed one of its own free agents is that it?