I wonder if jennings and Cruz equals Hankins contract. I also wonder if Cruz will be a June 1 cut splitting the salary over two seasons saving an additional 3.2 mill this season.
They can wait till training camp because the savings will be the same...
Isn't it unfair to him if you know he's not going to give you anything at his price tag? At least let him see if he can land in camp somewhere else (assuming he doesn't retire).
I wonder if jennings and Cruz equals Hankins contract. I also wonder if Cruz will be a June 1 cut splitting the salary over two seasons saving an additional 3.2 mill this season.
Cruz had no guaranteed money remaining after the 2017 portion of his pro-rated SB (per overthecap), so how would it save them an additional $3.2M? He's only a $1.9M dead money hit as is.
Too bad we didnt have an OL that didnt force you to dance and get nailed.
Hope you land somewhere else.
Great teammate and community person.
God bless.
and a great ambassador/representative for the organization. The Giants (like with Cruz) are going both of them a favor by releasing them now. It gives both of those guys a chance to sign with someone else before those other teams have finalized their rosters.
If one or both of them do not get picked up by another team (unlikely) then I would not be surprised if the Giants brought them back for much less money.
only if they are not planning on wasting a 1st or 2cnd draft pick on a RB. Yes we could use another good RB but one of the first 2 picks MUST be for the O-line and the other MUST be for a Receiver or Tight end now that they let Cruz go. OR, if they do let JPP walk than they need a top DE if they can't get one in FA.
moves (Cruz/Jennings) create opportunity for younger players while giving the Giants more flexibility in FA. It was always going to happen we just didn't know when. I'd expect there might be 1 or 2 more getting their release as well.
for all your great contributions Rashad! Best of luck with the rest of your football career, or the next chapter in your life. Once a Giant, always a Giant.
only if they are not planning on wasting a 1st or 2cnd draft pick on a RB. Yes we could use another good RB but one of the first 2 picks MUST be for the O-line and the other MUST be for a Receiver or Tight end now that they let Cruz go. OR, if they do let JPP walk than they need a top DE if they can't get one in FA.
This was a good move no matter what. A move that actually should have taken place last offseason.
a great guy and a leader on the team. However, he's reached the bewitching age for running backs and turns 32, even with limited mileage on him. To his credit, he knew Perkins was going to take his job and helped mentor him. The Giants will need to draft to pick up another RB, unless he's willing to come back at a paycut.
a great guy and a leader on the team. However, he's reached the bewitching age for running backs and turns 32, even with limited mileage on him. To his credit, he knew Perkins was going to take his job and helped mentor him. The Giants will need to draft to pick up another RB, unless he's willing to come back at a paycut.
Exactly. The guy was professional about everything, a great leader and mentor, and a good guy for the community. He represented the organization as well as anyone.
especially a guy like Jennings who from all accounts is solid. But we desperately need to take drastic measures to fix this running game once and for all. This is a start.
I don't see anymore cap casualties, now it's time to start the restructures. I'd love to see the Giants get somewhere near the $45M range for cap space.
we signed him thinking he was the next Mike turner, someone who was stuck in the backup role but was good enough to start... It turned out he is good backup but he just doesn't have the explosiveness or the vision of the great running back.. Anyhow best of luck to him..
because if it were, Jennings would stay around as long as he wanted to be here.
Good guy, and I wish him the very best. The Giants simply need to get much more out of the running back position. Hopefully, Perkins can be that guy so that the Giants don't need to spend another valuable draft pick and/or substantial free agency dollars on the position this spring.
same sentiments as Cruz, I wish him luck as well but this was a move they had to make.
Vereen could be a cut, but I doubt its an early cut until they know what they are getting with his injury. He's also far more important than Cruz or Jennings if healthy.
RE: Good Luck to Jennings
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In comment 13359322 Chip said:
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I wonder if jennings and Cruz equals Hankins contract. I also wonder if Cruz will be a June 1 cut splitting the salary over two seasons saving an additional 3.2 mill this season.
Cruz had no guaranteed money remaining after the 2017 portion of his pro-rated SB (per overthecap), so how would it save them an additional $3.2M? He's only a $1.9M dead money hit as is.
By cutting Cruz, they save his salary of 6.4M + roster bonus of 1M + workout bonus of 0.1M, for a total of 7.5M saved....the 1.9M in dead cap is already built into the cap for next year....the only option would be to split the dead money of 1.9M(left from the signing bonus) over two years, otherwise he is off the books completely for 2018....
to remember that splitting cap hit doesn't save you more dollars. you simply defer half the hit to next year, essentially borrowing from next year's cap for this year. this year's savings look better, but next year a lot of people advocating the split will be bitching about dead money.
my motto is never borrow from the future unless you absolutely have to.
Seemed like a decent dude anyway.
Isn't it unfair to him if you know he's not going to give you anything at his price tag? At least let him see if he can land in camp somewhere else (assuming he doesn't retire).
Cruz had no guaranteed money remaining after the 2017 portion of his pro-rated SB (per overthecap), so how would it save them an additional $3.2M? He's only a $1.9M dead money hit as is.
Hope you land somewhere else.
Great teammate and community person.
God bless.
If one or both of them do not get picked up by another team (unlikely) then I would not be surprised if the Giants brought them back for much less money.
Thanks for the 3 years and representing NYG very well.
This was a good move no matter what. A move that actually should have taken place last offseason.
There is plenty of time to figure that out. The main thing is that Jennings is toast.
Exactly. The guy was professional about everything, a great leader and mentor, and a good guy for the community. He represented the organization as well as anyone.
RB in draft?
While I disagree, many on BBI seem to want Harris cut.
But that's probably it, besides JTT.
Who are you expecting to restructure? The only real candidates I see are DRC and an extension for Pugh.
Good guy, and I wish him the very best. The Giants simply need to get much more out of the running back position. Hopefully, Perkins can be that guy so that the Giants don't need to spend another valuable draft pick and/or substantial free agency dollars on the position this spring.
Vereen could be a cut, but I doubt its an early cut until they know what they are getting with his injury. He's also far more important than Cruz or Jennings if healthy.
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In comment 13359322 Chip said:
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I wonder if jennings and Cruz equals Hankins contract. I also wonder if Cruz will be a June 1 cut splitting the salary over two seasons saving an additional 3.2 mill this season.
Cruz had no guaranteed money remaining after the 2017 portion of his pro-rated SB (per overthecap), so how would it save them an additional $3.2M? He's only a $1.9M dead money hit as is.
By cutting Cruz, they save his salary of 6.4M + roster bonus of 1M + workout bonus of 0.1M, for a total of 7.5M saved....the 1.9M in dead cap is already built into the cap for next year....the only option would be to split the dead money of 1.9M(left from the signing bonus) over two years, otherwise he is off the books completely for 2018....
my motto is never borrow from the future unless you absolutely have to.