Charley Casserly Mock: Giants Trade Up in 1st

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In comment 13359499 No Where Man said:

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Reese has only ever traded up. He's never traded down. I doubt that trend changes this year.

we traded down? Serious question...

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for lesser talent. Our mid level drafting under Reese is horrible.

Last 1st round trade by Reese as GM? Kiwi?

In comment 13359505 antdog24 said:

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we traded down? Serious question...

Kiwi in 2006

trade up for Collins?

been reading Slade's post

in the nfl.

imo.

QB's in the draft.

They are going to trade for a guy who is having major surgery and played 14 games of D1 football - not happening

Especially if Reese can't close anything with FA OL.

Way too early at this point and if there's a bunch of talent still on the board Reese probably stays at 23.

In comment 13359523 winoguy said:

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trade up for Collins?

Yes but he was first pick of 2nd round

at least a slightly better than average LT like Reiff.

It isn't the Giants style to leave a gaping hole that has to be filled in the draft.

For sure, the Giants will have a replacement selected before the draft - either a Free Agent or (unlikely) Pugh. Even a slightly better than average LT will be better than Flowers. Hell, Newhouse may be an improvement at LT.

If Reese still isn't convinced that he needs to replace Flowers, he will be putting his job on the line and all his accomplishments for the defense in 2016 will be forgotten by January 2018.

But it would be a bummer because this is a draft rich in first round talent and there are sure to be excellent prospects to choose from at #23.

This is the first mock that has all three OT's going before the 23rd pick. I was kind of counting on the fact that at least one of them would still be available. I still think so, but if Bolles and Robinson do well at the combine, it's certainly possible.

In comment 13359561 Milton said:

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But it would be a bummer because this is a draft rich in first round talent and there are sure to be excellent prospects to choose from at #23.

That's pretty much how I feel about it.

don't see the Giants trading up for Ramczyk, or even taking him at #23. One year of D1 football, and is coming off of major hip surgery. We're trying to avoid injury riddled players given our history, not accumulate them, especially with first round picks.

Reese has never traded down. I think the last time the Giants did so was when we dropped back to the bottom of the first in a trade with Pittsburgh to take Kiwi. And that was Accorsi.

if neither of their top 2 picks is likely not to make it to them, of course depending on who it is and which position.
Tennessee owes us for Conklin.

In a heartbeat for a Mike Williams or Corey Davis.

RR is going in the top 15 maybe even the top 12. He will rise. LT's do not come easy. There are a few teams that need one. Jax, SD, Carolina, Indy, TB, Cincy, CLE

They all need tackle help.

In comment 13359523 winoguy said:

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trade up for Collins?

Collins was in the 2nd. Think they mean 1st round.

must be struggling to be relevant lately -- this is a terrible idea

I think a trade up only makes sense for them in certain specific situations. I'm guessing it's something like:

a prospect on a high "row" falls past their rating (so the price has declined)

they don't like the prospects at that guy's position later on in the draft (so they can't figure on getting someone for need later)

they see an unusually large dropoff between the guy they can get with a trade-up and the guys who'll be left at their regular spot (so they don't think they'll get great value if they stay put).

Way too many good players are going to be available at positions that are considered a need or in need of an upgrade.

Let Free agency happen please then I could see us trading up but not for this injured player.

someone that you are extremely high on.This sounds more like filling a need out of desperation.

worth that kind of move.

To take Corey Davis or OJ Howard.

nevermind 32.

If both TE's and OL are gone early would not be shocked if the Giants draft a DE.

With all the holes to fill, I'm not sure there is a player worth giving up premium picks to get. But then again we all know Jerry's history of 3rd round failed picks.

Say they would like to move him to OG but haven't given up on him developing into an OT they will go the vet FA route. If they've come to the conclusion he's not going to make it at LT they'll be looking for his long term replacement in the draft.

Personally I don't believe they've given up on him playing LT for them down the line even if they realize he isn't ready yet. Which given Reese's stubborn refusal to honestly evaluate players in the past wouldn't surprise me in the least.

In comment 13359523 winoguy said:

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trade up for Collins?

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In the second round, and that's rare too.