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Thatís Gold, Jerry : 2/14/2017 8:58 am
$34,590,039 in cap space for top 51 and $34, 125,039 in cap space for all. So that's a little more than what has been reported so far.

I can see us getting close to $40M with more moves such as cutting JT3, renegotiating with DRC or a possible cut, maybe even Eli in terms of a restructure.
DRC is on a basically perfect contract right now  
bigbluehoya : 2/14/2017 9:01 am : link
2 years $17m for a 30 year old CB who is a rock solid #2 and a passable #1 in a pinch is outstanding value. Don't touch it.
I don't get the fascination with cutting DRC  
Steve L : 2/14/2017 9:02 am : link
He was one of our top defensive players this season. We need to keep him.
Yeah,  
Giantology : 2/14/2017 9:03 am : link
Really wouldn't make sense to mess with DRC's contract - or to even cut him. I don't think we'll be able to replace his talent and experience at a lower rate.
DRC's contract is a bargain  
UConn4523 : 2/14/2017 9:06 am : link
especially with Apple year 2 allowing for additional rest week to week. I don't see how we can better spend the money we are paying DRC.
If we have almost 35 million  
Peppers : 2/14/2017 9:07 am : link
Why would we cut DRC? Makes zero sense. Why even restructure Eli? If anything Pugh gets a new contract. We have enough money to resign some of our own and make a few moves in FA. No need to get too crazy.
The Giants are operating in a three year window with Eli at the most  
AnnapolisMike : 2/14/2017 9:12 am : link
Push the cap pain out until year 4. The goal should be to field the best possible team over the next 2 years and then deal with the consequences down the road.
RE: DRC is on a basically perfect contract right now  
Keith : 2/14/2017 9:13 am : link
In comment 13360391 bigbluehoya said:
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2 years $17m for a 30 year old CB who is a rock solid #2 and a passable #1 in a pinch is outstanding value. Don't touch it.


Spot on, imo. Only way I do anything with DRC is if we get blown away with a trade offer.
You can  
Pete in MD : 2/14/2017 9:14 am : link
play the cut and sign game on Spotrac and see how much room the team can create and how much they would need for prime UFAs. IMO, JTT is next on the block, saves $3M for a inconsistent player coming off of a major knee injury.
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RE: If we have almost 35 million  
blueblood : 2/14/2017 9:26 am : link
In comment 13360405 Peppers said:
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Why would we cut DRC? Makes zero sense. Why even restructure Eli? If anything Pugh gets a new contract. We have enough money to resign some of our own and make a few moves in FA. No need to get too crazy.


The Giants were like 50 million under the cap last year and were able to make major FA moves with Vernon, Snacks, Jenkins and retaining JPP on a one year deal. Plus Robinson and Sheppard at LB..

with 35 million they will be able to make some moves..
Leave DRC alone  
sjnyfan : 2/14/2017 9:30 am : link
Cut Thomas, extend Pugh and that's plenty of cash to go into FA.
Makes no sense to restructure Eli  
JonC : 2/14/2017 9:32 am : link
nor DRC, and he has no incentive to agree to a paycut.

Perhaps they get Pugh done sooner than later, perhaps they cut JT, but there's not much more to be done upfront in terms of cap space.
RE: The Giants are operating in a three year window with Eli at the most  
Steve L : 2/14/2017 9:42 am : link
In comment 13360411 AnnapolisMike said:
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Push the cap pain out until year 4. The goal should be to field the best possible team over the next 2 years and then deal with the consequences down the road.


I agree. I think if the front office plays the cap and FA games well, we can and will compete for a SB title the next 2-3 years.
RE: RE: The Giants are operating in a three year window with Eli at the most  
section125 : 2/14/2017 9:46 am : link
In comment 13360468 Steve L said:
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In comment 13360411 AnnapolisMike said:


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Push the cap pain out until year 4. The goal should be to field the best possible team over the next 2 years and then deal with the consequences down the road.



I agree. I think if the front office plays the cap and FA games well, we can and will compete for a SB title the next 2-3 years.


And then what happens? Do they forget about football after Eli?
Soprt trac DRC contract is wrong  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 10:01 am : link
FYI. understated by 500k.

DRC had a 500k salary escalator if he got 5 INTs in 2016. He got two the last game against WAS giving him 6 for the year.

His cap number should be $9M like over the cap has it, not 8.5M like Sport trac has it.

I don't know if there are any other miscalculations like that, I stopped checking after seeing they had DRC wrong on sport trac. And then went a few more players and saw Casillas had a 500k salary escalator he achieved too based on playing time so sport trac has Casillas cap # 500k too low. That's a $1M error so far.

Over the cap has the Giants at ~31M.

I generally find them more reliable and a $3M difference is not insignificant.



Why would DRC negotiate?  
Sonic Youth : 2/14/2017 10:52 am : link
Makes no sense from his vantage point
RE: DRC is on a basically perfect contract right now  
Sonic Youth : 2/14/2017 10:53 am : link
In comment 13360391 bigbluehoya said:
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2 years $17m for a 30 year old CB who is a rock solid #2 and a passable #1 in a pinch is outstanding value. Don't touch it.
beyond simply being passable, I think he's a viable/good #1.

CBs are the strength of our team right now, and I love it
DRC is probably well aware that he's a bargain...  
Ryan : 2/14/2017 11:01 am : link
...and knows the window is half closed for him to get one last contract. I'd be stunned if - assuming the Giants don't cut or trade him - he walks in to the offseason program without a stink of some sort.

My hope is they're able to get done what they need and still keep him, while Apple progresses to the point where you've got mitigation already in place, knowing what DRCs warts are.
Keep in mind that you can't spend all of that  
HomerJones45 : 2/14/2017 11:29 am : link
you've got to have a few bucks available to replace guys hurt during the season.
RE: RE: DRC is on a basically perfect contract right now  
giants#1 : 2/14/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13360564 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 13360391 bigbluehoya said:


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2 years $17m for a 30 year old CB who is a rock solid #2 and a passable #1 in a pinch is outstanding value. Don't touch it.

beyond simply being passable, I think he's a viable/good #1.

CBs are the strength of our team right now, and I love it


A viable #1 needs to play more than 2/3 of the D snaps.
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christian : 2/14/2017 3:31 pm : link
The absolute more telling story is the cap room in the following 2-3 years, where a majority of the money spent this off-season will hit.
DRC  
DavidinBMNY : 2/14/2017 8:51 pm : link
The Dead money number in cutting DRC is $4 mm. It's crazy to cut him with that amount of dead space. He's easily worth $5 mm.

The only way that it would make sense to trade DRC is if someone made a very compelling trade offer , but with such a deep CB class I can't see it happening.
The idea of fucking with DRC's contract  
chopperhatch : 2/14/2017 10:18 pm : link
And with him as a player is mind numbing to me. Honestly if he wants a few more bucks, I am open to the giants considering that. He is so good. He is an eraser. For the last few years he didnt have the numbers per se but because qbs weren't stupid enough to throw his way. He then started baiting qbs by running behind the receiver this past year and then breaking on the throw. If it was to hit that bonus for picks, that is fucking awesome, lol.

I dont even think I would trade DRC for a LT straight up unless it was Joe Thomas. Even then I would think twice.
RE: I don't get the fascination with cutting DRC  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/14/2017 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13360395 Steve L said:
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He was one of our top defensive players this season. We need to keep him.


He's a very good player. When healthy. He played part time last year. His snap count was way down for a reason. He stays this year but there's a reason why some teams get into cap issues. One is holding onto a guy too long. DRC is on the cusp of that. They limited his snaps all year and he still got hurt early on in the most important game of the year.

I was of the mind he should be kept no matter what but Im starting to wonder w a deep draft at CB it may be smarter to grab one early if a kid like Apple falls to 23.

I don't think cutting DRC to go young makes you a better football team  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/14/2017 11:12 pm : link
when you have to eat that cap hit. It doesn't make sense.
RE: I don't think cutting DRC to go young makes you a better football team  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/14/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13361379 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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when you have to eat that cap hit. It doesn't make sense.


There what's they say when Belichick dumps players. Name the guys on the Pats this year who were better than Chandler and Collins in their respective spots? If cutting DRC allows them to keep JPP or lose him what then? Is the team better w JPP or DRC. hope they keep both.

I like DRC. Just am wondering if he can really be counted on health wise. Also looking at the draft which may have a future Pro bowler at CB there at 23 due to the depth of the draft.
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