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In light of Jennings Cut, some RBs in this draft

JOMO25 : 2/14/2017 9:30 am
I am going on the assumption that PP is the odds on favorite to win the starting job, Vereen sticks around. Unsure if Darkwa returns but I like him.

One would think we need a bigger RB.

Let's dismiss Joe Mixon from the discussion.

Donta Foreman and James Conner - two 240 lb + bully backs like to go =& gt; 4th round. Both would do a nice job. Do we need to go this big?

If not, Wayne Gallman and Jamaal Williams are 220 lb types that run a little high but had very good college careers.

One guy I haven't see at all is Marlon Mack.

One guy I think has bust written all over him is Samje Perine.

Lastly, from a value standpoint, I think Kareem Hunt will sit just outside of the top 100 picked but outplay many picked before him. I find him to be an incredibly hard runner who is good at everything (and perhaps great at nothing). But if you land him in RD4, that's a great grab.
I also really like Hunt, as well as Conner.  
yatqb : 2/14/2017 9:42 am : link
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Perine  
blueblood : 2/14/2017 9:43 am : link
is the guy im interested in..
Perkins, Vereen, Darkwa?  
mattlawson : 2/14/2017 9:46 am : link
Who else do we have right now
If you keep all three  
Carl in CT : 2/14/2017 9:49 am : link
You don't need to spend a pick on a forth.
What do you guys like/dislike about Perineal?  
Ivan15 : 2/14/2017 9:50 am : link
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I find Perine to be  
JOMO25 : 2/14/2017 9:51 am : link
very slow from a lateral quickness standpoint. I don't see him as a pro RB.
RE: Perkins, Vereen, Darkwa?  
kash94 : 2/14/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13360474 mattlawson said:
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Who else do we have right now


I think it's just Perkins and Vereen. Darkwa is a FA
Connor is great  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/14/2017 10:52 am : link
I would love to get him in the late rounds as he is going to drop due to his health concerns.
I'm still a huge fan of McCaffrey  
sjnyfan : 2/14/2017 11:25 am : link
I think you could get him 15-20 touches a game between returns, receiving and rushing and not affect Perkins's production. He would be a major asset to Eli.
RE: I'm still a huge fan of McCaffrey  
Patrick77 : 2/14/2017 11:34 am : link
In comment 13360620 sjnyfan said:
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I think you could get him 15-20 touches a game between returns, receiving and rushing and not affect Perkins's production. He would be a major asset to Eli.


I think you might be right. I am a little worried how he will stand up to the pounding in the NFL. I'd be more worried you can get that type of skill set cheaper in a lot of drafts or free agency. I'm a broken record on this but I could see him being the equivalent of Duke Johnson (3rd rounder) who can play specials, was used as a 3rd and 4th WR, and ran the ball with some effectiveness but nothing special thus far. Johnson is also shorter and heavier than Mcaffrey. Vereen, Sproles, Woodhead, and Bush all offer this similar skillset as well. I think every year there are a handful of backs available from college that are jack of all trades but aren't full time players at any one position.

If Mcaffrey isn't dynamic at something in the NFL I don't see why a team should draft him high. A good utility player is worth something but Mcaffrey sounds to be going in the first.
I think we just  
crackerjack465 : 2/14/2017 11:59 am : link
see what Perkins has. Maybe a 4th rounder but I would be shocked if we took Mccafrey

I still wish we took Jordan Howard, but who knows? Maybe Perkins is better, we haven't seen enough yet.
Most likely you would have to use the #1 on McCaffrey  
njm : 2/14/2017 11:59 am : link
I don't think he'll be there when the Giants pick in the 2nd. And I don't think he will be far and away the BPA at #23.

A big back in the 4th, even if you have to trade a 6th to move up in the round, would be fine by me.
If we get a big OL and re-sign JPP  
Doubledeuce22 : 2/14/2017 12:49 pm : link
I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Dalvin Cook with our pick (if he makes it that far). Think he's gonna be an absolute stud.
RE: If you keep all three  
TC : 2/14/2017 1:12 pm : link
In comment 13360481 Carl in CT said:
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You don't need to spend a pick on a forth.

Perkins shows promise. Darkwa can't stay healthy and has contributed very little. Vereen is a fine 3rd down back who HAS contributed, but also hasn't been able to stay healthy throughout his career.
Is Rainey still here ?  
blueberry : 2/14/2017 1:26 pm : link
Perkins, Vereen, Darkwa?

Who else do we have right now
Bobby Rainey unless he was a 1 yr contract
My Super Bowl day ritual is to watch old Giants  
aimrocky : 2/14/2017 1:36 pm : link
Super Bowls leading into the actual game. One thing that really stood out this year was that when the Giants were really good they had a scat back rusher complimenting their early down back. Meggett, Ahmad Bradshaw and, to some degree Joe Morris (although he was THE back and not a role player).

I'd really like for them to focus on another scat back who's a good receiver, with real elusiveness and pair him up with Perkins.
RE: My Super Bowl day ritual is to watch old Giants  
adamg : 2/14/2017 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13360870 aimrocky said:
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Super Bowls leading into the actual game. One thing that really stood out this year was that when the Giants were really good they had a scat back rusher complimenting their early down back. Meggett, Ahmad Bradshaw and, to some degree Joe Morris (although he was THE back and not a role player).

I'd really like for them to focus on another scat back who's a good receiver, with real elusiveness and pair him up with Perkins.


Donnell Pumphrey? Kid is very slight though. Needs to gain 20 lbs.
McCaffrey is my guilty pleasure pick  
Milton : 2/14/2017 1:54 pm : link
With more pressing needs than RB, it would be a luxury to take him at 23. But he could be another Tiki Barber. So passing on him could be something the Giants regret for the next ten years.
Check out the analysis of this one particular play - ( New Window )
I hope the Giants take a look at . . . .  
TC : 2/14/2017 2:19 pm : link
Corey Clement out of Wisconsin.

Decent size, rugged build. Can run inside and outside. Doesn't need a big hole. Can make something out of nothing. Excellent vision and balance. Productive. Gets the tough yards. Extends runs. Has some moves, and can be elusive and take it the distance. Quick with decent long speed.

Jersey boy.

Video: vs. LSU 2016. - ( New Window )
I really want Conner!  
Rico : 2/14/2017 2:58 pm : link
Plays so much like Jacobs, I would love to see him in blue!
So who can handle the rock securely  
Hot Rod in Florida : 2/14/2017 3:14 pm : link
Hunt and McCaffrey are elite in regard to not fumbling. Fournette is below average. Cook, Kamara, and Foreman were all terrible fumbling more than once every 75 carries. If we take a RB in round one, McCaffrey seems like the safest one to pick.
Which backs raise red flags - ( New Window )
RE: I think we just  
Beezer : 2/14/2017 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13360700 crackerjack465 said:
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see what Perkins has. Maybe a 4th rounder but I would be shocked if we took Mccafrey

I still wish we took Jordan Howard, but who knows? Maybe Perkins is better, we haven't seen enough yet.


Same. I'd really prefer a stud TE or WR over a RB in the first, if we are going offensive skill spots.
RE: If you keep all three  
djm : 2/14/2017 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13360481 Carl in CT said:
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You don't need to spend a pick on a forth.


UNless you feel those 3 aren't any good.
RE: So who can handle the rock securely  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/14/2017 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13360991 Hot Rod in Florida said:
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Hunt and McCaffrey are elite in regard to not fumbling. Fournette is below average. Cook, Kamara, and Foreman were all terrible fumbling more than once every 75 carries. If we take a RB in round one, McCaffrey seems like the safest one to pick. Which backs raise red flags - ( New Window )


People on here complaining about fumbling are ridiculous. It's football, fumbles happen and sometimes they can be correctable, and even still, it can happen.
RE: RE: So who can handle the rock securely  
OC2.0 : 2/14/2017 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13361054 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13360991 Hot Rod in Florida said:


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Hunt and McCaffrey are elite in regard to not fumbling. Fournette is below average. Cook, Kamara, and Foreman were all terrible fumbling more than once every 75 carries. If we take a RB in round one, McCaffrey seems like the safest one to pick. Which backs raise red flags - ( New Window )



People on here complaining about fumbling are ridiculous. It's football, fumbles happen and sometimes they can be correctable, and even still, it can happen.


Look how Tiki got weaned off fumbling.
I think we need a different, complimentary back like Freeman from Texa  
PatersonPlank : 2/14/2017 6:31 pm : link
He'd be the thunder to Perkins Lightning. The rest of the names above are just other RB's in the same mold as Perkins and Darkwa.
Jennings was a good FA pick up  
TMS : 2/14/2017 10:06 pm : link
and Perkins a great 6th round draft pick. Maybe we are starting to see the light for that position. Keeping the faith and hoping for the best,
At 249, Forman can run very fast ...  
Manny in CA : 2/15/2017 12:09 am : link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svGVD4cTHuI

He's also supposed to be an excellent pass blocker (which will make Eli happy)

Last big man in a Texas uniform running like that was Earl Campbell. Remember ?

RE: At 249, Forman can run very fast ...  
micky : 2/15/2017 12:35 am : link
In comment 13361394 Manny in CA said:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svGVD4cTHuI

He's also supposed to be an excellent pass blocker (which will make Eli happy)

Last big man in a Texas uniform running like that was Earl Campbell. Remember ?


geez most of those highlites were the OL opening up some holes for him. Has some speed though
RE: RE: My Super Bowl day ritual is to watch old Giants  
SHO'NUFF : 2/15/2017 1:17 am : link
In comment 13360886 adamg said:
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Super Bowls leading into the actual game. One thing that really stood out this year was that when the Giants were really good they had a scat back rusher complimenting their early down back. Meggett, Ahmad Bradshaw and, to some degree Joe Morris (although he was THE back and not a role player).

I'd really like for them to focus on another scat back who's a good receiver, with real elusiveness and pair him up with Perkins.



Donnell Pumphrey? Kid is very slight though. Needs to gain 20 lbs.


Winner! Pumphrey is the man!
RE: RE: RE: My Super Bowl day ritual is to watch old Giants  
adamg : 2/15/2017 1:27 am : link
In comment 13361407 SHO'NUFF said:
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Super Bowls leading into the actual game. One thing that really stood out this year was that when the Giants were really good they had a scat back rusher complimenting their early down back. Meggett, Ahmad Bradshaw and, to some degree Joe Morris (although he was THE back and not a role player).

I'd really like for them to focus on another scat back who's a good receiver, with real elusiveness and pair him up with Perkins.



Donnell Pumphrey? Kid is very slight though. Needs to gain 20 lbs.



Winner! Pumphrey is the man!


I'd really like him in the 4th or 5th.
Anything is possible...  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 2/15/2017 1:59 pm : link
I don't think we will go RB in the first round, but if we do, it will most likely be McCaffrey. And I like him a lot. He is quick, fast, elusive, patient, and an excellent receiver. Right now we have Perkins and Vereen. The other guys are JAGs. We need another premier RB to pair with Perkins and Vereen. McCaffrey is a weapon.
RE: RE: I'm still a huge fan of McCaffrey  
santacruzom : 2/15/2017 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13360640 Patrick77 said:
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I think you could get him 15-20 touches a game between returns, receiving and rushing and not affect Perkins's production. He would be a major asset to Eli.



I'm a broken record on this but I could see him being the equivalent of Duke Johnson (3rd rounder) who can play specials, was used as a 3rd and 4th WR, and ran the ball with some effectiveness but nothing special thus far.


Maybe, but that would be a huge disappointment. McCaffrey was a far better, more remarkable collegiate player than Johnson was.
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