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NFT: Montreal Canadiens fire Michel Therrien, hire Claude Julien

Mike in Long Beach : 2/14/2017 4:47 pm
Tweet from the NHL linked below.
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Well, pj will be glad to see Therrien go  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2017 4:48 pm : link
But, then, he doesn't like Julien either.
Wowy!  
Deej : 2/14/2017 4:50 pm : link
That's a historic move. Im stunned.
LOL  
MetsAreBack : 2/14/2017 4:54 pm : link
Immediately thought of PJ when i read that just now... he hates 3 coaches... they fired one of them, and hired another one of them.

HAHA ... cant make that up.
hahahhaha......  
BillKo : 2/14/2017 4:54 pm : link
...but hey, he's really a good coach.

Would be awesome for the B's and Habs to meet in the first round.
RE: LOL  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2017 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13361100 MetsAreBack said:
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Immediately thought of PJ when i read that just now... he hates 3 coaches... they fired one of them, and hired another one of them.

HAHA ... cant make that up.


Just wait for his reaction in four years when they fire Julien and bring back Vigneault.
Yup  
pganut : 2/14/2017 5:00 pm : link
Steer clear of pj. He may go all Andrew Shaw up in this piece.
Wow!  
Drewcon40 : 2/14/2017 5:00 pm : link
Another playoff bound team (likely) firing a coach mid-season? Is everyone following the Penguins plan?

Islanders, Blues, Bruins, and now the Canadiens??? All likely playoff teams.


RE: Wow!  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/14/2017 5:04 pm : link
In comment 13361115 Drewcon40 said:
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Another playoff bound team (likely) firing a coach mid-season? Is everyone following the Penguins plan?

Islanders, Blues, Bruins, and now the Canadiens??? All likely playoff teams.



To your point here, I actually stumbled across the number last night on this...

Isles, Bruins, and Blues are a combined 16-3-2 since firing their coaches. That'd be a massive record for any randomly selected group of teams, let alone three teams playing so poorly that they had to fire their coaches.

Really weird. I get having some extra jump, but these teams have been as good as anyone else in the league since their moves.
RE: RE: Wow!  
Drewcon40 : 2/14/2017 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13361120 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In comment 13361115 Drewcon40 said:


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Another playoff bound team (likely) firing a coach mid-season? Is everyone following the Penguins plan?

Islanders, Blues, Bruins, and now the Canadiens??? All likely playoff teams.





To your point here, I actually stumbled across the number last night on this...

Isles, Bruins, and Blues are a combined 16-3-2 since firing their coaches. That'd be a massive record for any randomly selected group of teams, let alone three teams playing so poorly that they had to fire their coaches.

Really weird. I get having some extra jump, but these teams have been as good as anyone else in the league since their moves.


Thanks Mike for this. That is a bit eye opening. I always wonder how long that initial jump from a new coach lasts. Interesting with the Isles was, I think Cap was let go after they shut the Bruins out?

I also think the team loosens up a bit, plays a with less pressure but the wins actually lead to a boost of confidence.
Just seeing this now  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 5:11 pm : link
file this squarely in the "be careful what you wish for" column.

It's like Montreal can't do a damn thing new. AV, Therrien, and Julien came up threw MTL together and all basically run the same system.

Therrien is my least favorite of the three, but Julien isn't far behind. And I hate they say his name Clode instead of the American Clawed.

Coaching change was necessary, I just wish Julien was interim.
RE: Just seeing this now  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13361129 pjcas18 said:
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file this squarely in the "be careful what you wish for" column.

It's like Montreal can't do a damn thing new. AV, Therrien, and Julien came up threw MTL together and all basically run the same system.

Therrien is my least favorite of the three, but Julien isn't far behind. And I hate they say his name Clode instead of the American Clawed.

Coaching change was necessary, I just wish Julien was interim.


*through
well, when an ironclad requirement of your head coach is  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2017 5:15 pm : link
that he speak fluent French, I guess it makes the pool a bit more shallow.
I had to check and make sure  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 5:21 pm : link
it wasn't april fool's I knew it was some shitty holiday, but it's not it's valentines day.

and you're right Greg, they'll never relive the Cunneyworth incident again - ton of douche bag fans of the Habs - and it's not like that was ancient history. I think it was 2012.

He preceded Therrien.

RE: RE: Just seeing this now  
bigbluehoya : 2/14/2017 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13361132 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13361129 pjcas18 said:


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file this squarely in the "be careful what you wish for" column.

It's like Montreal can't do a damn thing new. AV, Therrien, and Julien came up threw MTL together and all basically run the same system.

Therrien is my least favorite of the three, but Julien isn't far behind. And I hate they say his name Clode instead of the American Clawed.

Coaching change was necessary, I just wish Julien was interim.



*through


I was prepared to give you a pass on the error since you probably had "threw up" on the brain upon seeing the news
yes, it was only maybe 5 years ago  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2017 5:27 pm : link
Just seems like the Habs are an almost impossible coaching job in which to truly succeed. The expectations are always extremely high, and there's a cultural component that no other franchise has. I can't think of another team in any sport that brings back a former coach and then replaces him with the exact same guy they brought in to replace in the first time.
RE: yes, it was only maybe 5 years ago  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13361153 Greg from LI said:
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Just seems like the Habs are an almost impossible coaching job in which to truly succeed. The expectations are always extremely high, and there's a cultural component that no other franchise has. I can't think of another team in any sport that brings back a former coach and then replaces him with the exact same guy they brought in to replace in the first time.


Therrien replaced Jaques Martin.

AV, Therrien, and Julien all worked on Mario Tremblay's staff.

AV became HC in 1997, then Therrien in 2000, then Julien in 2003.

Therrien came back in 2012, now Julien in 2017, AV is next when the Rangers fire him.
RE: RE: yes, it was only maybe 5 years ago  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13361171 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13361153 Greg from LI said:


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Just seems like the Habs are an almost impossible coaching job in which to truly succeed. The expectations are always extremely high, and there's a cultural component that no other franchise has. I can't think of another team in any sport that brings back a former coach and then replaces him with the exact same guy they brought in to replace in the first time.



Therrien replaced Jaques Martin.

AV, Therrien, and Julien all worked on Mario Tremblay's staff.

AV became HC in 1997, then Therrien in 2000, then Julien in 2003.

Therrien came back in 2012, now Julien in 2017, AV is next when the Rangers fire him.


I see what you're saying, Julien replacing Therrien again.

You can't make this shit up.

What was Montreal thinking?  
old man : 2/14/2017 6:35 pm : link
Cloud(phonetic) will have that O playing so defensively, like Boston when their O is on a power play the O will pass so often it will kill its own power play.
RE: Just seeing this now  
NYerInMA : 2/14/2017 6:37 pm : link
In comment 13361129 pjcas18 said:
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file this squarely in the "be careful what you wish for" column.

It's like Montreal can't do a damn thing new. AV, Therrien, and Julien came up threw MTL together and all basically run the same system.

Therrien is my least favorite of the three, but Julien isn't far behind. And I hate they say his name Clode instead of the American Clawed.

Coaching change was necessary, I just wish Julien was interim.


Ugh, I cringe every time I hear someone cay "Clode". I think the NHLN people do it just to mess with us.
Clode  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2017 6:59 pm : link
oh-fense, uh-gainst, Pro-cess, the worst is the American or non-french speaking announcers who say those words the Canadian way.

lol  
MetsAreBack : 2/14/2017 7:21 pm : link
organ-eye-zAy-tion

It's aboat the team, not one player

"for sure, Weeksie"

and of course congrats to Derek Stepan, NYR centre ... on 7 straight years above 40 points
Let us not forget reminiscing on the wonderful days  
pganut : 2/14/2017 7:24 pm : link
Of grade 5, grade 6 and grade 7.
Gah.....AV and his "PROH-cess"  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2017 7:37 pm : link
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I know next to nothing about  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/14/2017 7:45 pm : link
Hockey, but wasn't this dude just fired by the Bruins? And now he just got hired by their archrivals. Interesting.
RE: I know next to nothing about  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2017 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13361255 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Hockey, but wasn't this dude just fired by the Bruins? And now he just got hired by their archrivals. Interesting.


Yes, their arch rivals who already hired and fired him once before, to replace the exact same guy both times.
RE: yes, it was only maybe 5 years ago  
St. Jimmy : 2/14/2017 8:46 pm : link
In comment 13361153 Greg from LI said:
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Just seems like the Habs are an almost impossible coaching job in which to truly succeed. The expectations are always extremely high, and there's a cultural component that no other franchise has. I can't think of another team in any sport that brings back a former coach and then replaces him with the exact same guy they brought in to replace in the first time.
George Steinbrenner with Billy Martin and Lou Piniella.
Bruins fans  
pjcas18 : 2/15/2017 9:01 am : link
at my hockey game last night (which is everyone except me and one Hurricanes fan (the only Whalers fan i know who remained a fan of the franchise) all hated this.

they loved Julien.

I think it's more because he looks like the Thunder Bay coach from Youngblood than his coaching prowess, but most were pissed off.

the ironic thing is he was an ex-Canadiens coach before the Bruins signed him (though with stops in between) and no one in MTL cared.


I don't get this move. Bergevin won't last the off-season IMO.
that's true, Lou replaced Billy twice  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2017 9:11 am : link
Of course, when you change managers constantly, a little overlap is likely.

Billy->Bob Lemon->Billy->Dick Howser->Gene Michael->Lemon->Michael->Clyde King->Billy->Yogi->Billy->Lou->Billy->Lou->Dallas Green->Bucky Dent->Stump Merrill

16 changes in 12 years, from 1978 to 1990.
Greg - your post reminded me of  
Drewcon40 : 2/15/2017 9:19 am : link
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it was funny because it's true  
Greg from LI : 2/15/2017 9:22 am : link
Since we've only had two managers over the past 20 years, it can be easy to forget just how nuts the Yankees were in the '80s.
Buchnevich will be a healthy scratch  
bigbluehoya : 2/15/2017 3:21 pm : link
Tomorrow night vs Isles. Peumpel gets the nod.

Smh.
Luckily, I was young enough  
St. Jimmy : 2/15/2017 7:41 pm : link
to not know about the mess Steinbrenner was making in the 80s. I was more worried about them being on channel 11.
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