Raanan: Giants sign Tye; Edwards, Whitlock will not return

On the uptick, I was hoping he'd be more developed by now. Glad he's still around but I've been expecting perhaps too much.

The TE position will be extensively upgraded.

or draft a promising rookie high (which I'm betting they won't do), then Tye makes a decent 3rd TE.

Adams as the primary backup and Tye as 3rd string. That would give us a good group and turn the position from a weakness to a strength.

before entering mine.

isn't worth a non-guaranteed vet minimum contract to compete in camp? I guess they are all-in with not having a true FB on the roster. I can see Jacksonville giving him a shot. He is a TC favorite.

Adams
Lacosse
Great draft pick

In comment 13361452 Pete in MD said:

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isn't worth a non-guaranteed vet minimum contract to compete in camp? I guess they are all-in with not having a true FB on the roster. I can see Jacksonville giving him a shot. He is a TC favorite.

Will Johnson is back to fill the FB role

update on this with salary information on all exclusive rights free agents.
New York Giants Re-Sign Tight End Will Tye - ( New Window )

In comment 13361466 TheMick7 said:

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In comment 13361452 Pete in MD said: Quote: isn't worth a non-guaranteed vet minimum contract to compete in camp? I guess they are all-in with not having a true FB on the roster. I can see Jacksonville giving him a shot. He is a TC favorite. Will Johnson is back to fill the FB role

He filled in wonderfully last year. =) Hope they bring in some *healthy* competition.

that Whitlock has PED issues. It makes sense now when you add that to the lisfranc injury.

a threat TE like the younger witten or reed is the fast way to improve the offence teams are using the double safety to blanket beckham and to stuff running plays on short yardage a legit threat at TE makes that harder for opposing defences to do and would force more one on one coverage which against the giants young receivers would be a favourable matchup and be the fastest way to improve the team they havent drafted a TE like that since 2002 shockey they thought they could find another boss or ballard and so far they havent adams looks decent but the isnt a dynamic playmaker TE they need he is a solid #2 TE and where they picked him was good value at that

but I don't expect him too be used much as an inline blocking TE.

Adams likely will be used most often as the inline TE, along with LaCosse and a draft pick. Tye should play mostly as an H-back, where he is probably best suited.

Are not in Tye's league. Tye led all receivers with only two drops in 70 balls.

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I sure hope Reese still adds a legit receiving TE with some length for the redzone and busting up the 2 deep defenses we will face.

he can learn to lead block and his hands would be more valuable out of the backfield. We need size and speed at TE, Tye has neither to any great degree.

and you want to move him to FB?

blocking from a lone setback position would have to be a -fundamentally different- thing as opposed to blocking in line.

whereas in line, long arms and (some height) may help, from a setback, call it whatever you want to call it, short and very stout could be an amazing thing.

remember Bjac as a pass protector from lone setback? coach tye up and he could be even better.

in addition, the kid has already shown that he can scoot and catch, and, hard to believe you guys don't appreciate this: Tye can be very hard to bring down at times. a bull. wheel routes, what have you, check downs.

regarding his development, considering level in college he is doing great,

can he run block as a traditional fullback? there is no reason he couldn't. no reason, short and very stout.

only 22lbs heavier, FYI

22lbs on a 6'2" 'wide body' is a lot

if I recall, and the results were not very positive.

he needs more practice reps, imho, very different build than the other two, adams is rather skinny.

if we can make him into will Johnson +20lbs, that's a unique player match up wise, set him up to have CBs try to tackle him, ala Bjac. haha.

I'd feel uncomfortable with them going into the preseason with Whitlock and Johnson as the only 2 options.

in his NFL career before becoming a Giant.

as camp fodder, but many look at him like he is something special....time to walk away from these UDFA that don't show something...

As for Johnson, it is wait and see, to see if he can take some hits....and because of that, we should really be looking for an alternate plan....

In comment 13361839 Doomster said:

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as camp fodder, but many look at him like he is something special....time to walk away from these UDFA that don't show something... As for Johnson, it is wait and see, to see if he can take some hits....and because of that, we should really be looking for an alternate plan....

LaCosse doesn't have to be "something special." He just has to be something serviceable, i.e., a decent blocker and a guy who will make the most of the receiving opportunities that come his way. A good #2. Bear Pascoe with more speed. Of course, he has to stay healthy first.

so, you have

FB Johnson
FB/HB/TE Tye,
TE's Adams and Lacosse and a draft pick

If you get lucky and get the great TE/HB/WR type -and- the big assed TE, I would suspect Lacosse or Adams simply would go back to practice squad or IR.

While he has only missed one game in 4 seasons, he has only had 50 targets and 8 rushes in 4 seasons....in fact his last two seasons, he has had only 13 targets and 6 rushes....

So while he has not had wear and tear, he also has not played that much.....so his durability is in question....he had a stinger, that made him miss the season....I think it is evident, this running game needs a leading FB.....counting on a player with possible durability problems, is not a luxury we can afford....

and one who can pass protect and catch .

either coach TYE up or draft one or both.

In comment 13361915 Doomster said:

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While he has only missed one game in 4 seasons, he has only had 50 targets and 8 rushes in 4 seasons....in fact his last two seasons, he has had only 13 targets and 6 rushes.... So while he has not had wear and tear, he also has not played that much.....so his durability is in question....he had a stinger, that made him miss the season....I think it is evident, this running game needs a leading FB.....counting on a player with possible durability problems, is not a luxury we can afford....

When you've had the offensive weapons that the Steelers have had, it shouldn't come as a surprise that Johnson didn't get many carries or targets. Besides, how many carries and targets did Madison Hedgecock get? Or Henry Hynoski? They were in the game to block (and play special teams).

Now, if the Giants still plan on using a FB, I'm pretty sure they'll go into camp with more than Johnson, and you can find them on late Day 3 or as UDFAs.

was Brett Jones.