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bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 7:41 am
Alright, fuckers.

Normally I'd show some deference to the home team, but you never walk away from a heater. And let's be honest, this one's more of a neutral site.

Let's get the chirping going early, but no retaliatory sticks to the face and no slashing the zebras.

For the Rangers, Buchnevich will take the suit and tie, Peumpel steps into the 4th line. Haven't seen anything official, but Henry will be between the pipes.

I'll let one of you Drakkar-scented boners share anything relevant about the Isles. (shout to Davisian for that historical beaut).

LGR!

You were terrible from the start
But now you've come so far
Since Fish started tongue-punching
Fekker's little dirt star
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RE: RE: RE: Couple of thoughts  
arcarsenal : 2/16/2017 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13363457 Deej said:
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In comment 13363436 Greg from LI said:


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In comment 13363406 Fish said:


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Fuck this joint thread BS. I really need to read about every scrub discussed on the Rags? OMG who we gonna send down, who we gonna bring up. He is gonna be great, he flashed....suck it.



What happened to the emerging Islander powerhouse you were slobbering about 3-4 years ago? 25-20-10....woooooooo!



Seriously. The Isles vaunted prospect pool turned out to be staggeringly unsuccessful, at least to date. Post Tavares draft, really underwhelming NHL production. And it's early, but Dal Colle and Ho-Sang should be doing a lot more in the AHL than they have been. And they gave up too soon on Nino (or misused him -- whatever, he's a decent player in Minnesota having a breakout season).


"Changing of the guard!"

-The 12th Man, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016

Still waiting.....
But the real fuck up  
MetsAreBack : 2/16/2017 5:02 pm : link
was not landing Hall in a deal headlined by Hamonic
RE: RE: RE: RE: Couple of thoughts  
Metnut : 2/16/2017 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13363471 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13363457 Deej said:


"Changing of the guard!"

-The 12th Man, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016

Still waiting.....


Well didn't it sort of change last year after the Islanders won a playoff round and the Rangers were ousted in the first?

While things havn't looked great for NYI this year, the season isn't over yet and it remains to be seen whether NYR can advance further than NYI in 2017.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Couple of thoughts  
MetsAreBack : 2/16/2017 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13363483 Metnut said:
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In comment 13363471 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 13363457 Deej said:


"Changing of the guard!"

-The 12th Man, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016

Still waiting.....



Well didn't it sort of change last year after the Islanders won a playoff round and the Rangers were ousted in the first?

While things havn't looked great for NYI this year, the season isn't over yet and it remains to be seen whether NYR can advance further than NYI in 2017.



Well the Rangers did finish higher in the standings and ended up getting crushed by the eventual Cup champions in a tough first round draw... Isles beat an overachieving, young Florida team and then got similarly crushed by a team that was beaten by Pittsburgh so....

hi-fives?

Agreed, lots of season to be played with Pittsburgh & Washington the overwhelming favorites in the East conference regardless.
lol  
Metnut : 2/16/2017 5:11 pm : link
that's all i got.

Clendening in for Klein  
MetsAreBack : 2/16/2017 5:12 pm : link
who has the sniffles (unfortunately was not traded)
Excellent  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 5:17 pm : link
I mean...feel better, Kev
JT  
Fish : 2/16/2017 5:24 pm : link
is here to stay and eventually the right players will be around him. MDC, HoSang etc. Gone is Capuano who definitely hurt the development of players. Grabner will come nowhere close to these numbers next year. Okposo is a solid player but the Islanders didn't want him. Nino didn't want to be here , it happens. Hopefully new ownership continues to make this team better. Lock up JT and find the Islanders a home in Long Island or Queens.
I am in no way offering excuses, but there have been variables at play  
pganut : 2/16/2017 5:25 pm : link
-RE: Isles failure to take the next step - we just excised a big part of the problem. The lack of development is startling, but it seems that was/is/has been part of "the system" which was starting to flourish when they aggressively forechecked, were opportunistic, and played with speed. Interestingly, the change in that philosophy came after the Isles blew three 2-goal leads in a 6-5 loss to you in early 2015. Capuano also unnecessarily scapegoated youth which stunted, if not wrecked some players' growth and confidence (see: Strome, Nelson...and for God's sake, he actually sat Lee in the 2015 playoffs in favor of Colin McDonald, a grinder whose battle level he liked). Cappy went with "safe", low event hockey as a result that robbed the team of its identity, took players with different skill sets and forced them into a grinder mentality, and became the system that Brent Thompson also adopted in BPT. I'm hopeful they're shaking off that stink. MDC and Ho-Sang are being taught the 2-way game instead of just relying on offensive skill, so their numbers are poorer while their abilities to succeed at the NHL level are being worked on.

-Nino: that's only part of the story. He came in as a spoiled malcontent whose agent felt should have been starting on L1 out of the gate. There were impressions that Nino wasn't interested in working hard, and his agent publicly grandstanding that Isles were misusing him had Garth do what most GMs would: find a reasonable return for an unproven player. The stat sheet shows Nino has had the better of scoring, but Clutterbuck's importance in the room for the Isles and as an agitator on the ice is vastly understated.

- Grabner: obviously, he had gotten hurt. In his desire to rebound from a core muscle injury, he overdid it on the weight training and it robbed him of his speed, his one true asset. It also led to him getting hurt again afterwards. Isles weren't sure of his ability to get back to where he was and moved him to TOR for prospects. TOR also cut bait (as did FLA and VAN before us), so what we see is a healthy Grabner once again enjoying success and in the right role. Happy for him, great guy.

- Okposo: one of the most polarizing Isles in a long time. Had some great, beastmode moments. But overshadowed by intermittent, long streaks of being invisible on the ice. Maddeningly inconsistent player. Maybe had also gotten too comfortable in the room, and my read between the lines is that they wanted more vocal players to grab the reins when needed. KO was a guy who gave his all, but possibly seen as just happy to be along for the ride.

And while there is much contention if a Hall/Hamonic deal was ever discussed outright (there was never an offer made. Chiarelli asked Snow if Hamonic would be available in a potential Hall trade and was told no; that's as far as it went), I totally agree that as much as a mensch that Hamonic is and a pillar of the community, you trade him for Hall 100 times out of 100.

But...I know, TL;DR because it's Islanders stuff...

Anyhoo, catch you dinguses later. I have to get to a friend's wake and will be back in time for the 2nd half of the game.
pga  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 5:29 pm : link
Sorry about the loss of your friend.
Greiss has been getting no help  
Dave M : 2/16/2017 6:06 pm : link
Every single dman was a joke against Toronto top pair down. That said Pelech needed a seat and so does Beauvillier. I wouldn't be against rewarding a guy like Bracken Kearns who had performed well in the AHL for a few games.
Jesus  
MetsAreBack : 2/16/2017 6:20 pm : link
hope its a family member of a friend PGA and not the friend him/herself. That sucks - hockey a distant second tonight. My condolensces.
Sorry for your loss pga  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 6:53 pm : link
And Fekker how are your white wine spritzers and scissors with Fish?
pga....  
arcarsenal : 2/16/2017 7:13 pm : link
My condolences, brother. All the best.
BAM!  
arcarsenal : 2/16/2017 7:18 pm : link
Texas Holden!
That's one!  
Anakim : 2/16/2017 7:19 pm : link
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Nice finish by Holden  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 7:20 pm : link
Let's Go Rangers chant begins. If they didn't have that ridiculous truck in the stands, they could have packed even more Rangers fans in.
Wow  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 8:02 pm : link
That was some pass by Miller
Miller has become quite the passer.  
arcarsenal : 2/16/2017 8:05 pm : link
Really took that aspect of his game to the next level this year.
Fuck  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 8:07 pm : link
Nice pass by Bailey
'DERS!  
Mike in NY : 2/16/2017 8:07 pm : link
Tie game
That felt like  
JayBinQueens : 2/16/2017 8:07 pm : link
It took forever to go in
Nice pass Bailey  
Dave M : 2/16/2017 8:09 pm : link
Lee!
RE: That felt like  
Dave M : 2/16/2017 8:09 pm : link
In comment 13363657 JayBinQueens said:
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It took forever to go in


When he is switching to his forehand I gasped.
JFC  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 8:12 pm : link
Staal
Nice forecheck by Gionta  
Mike in NY : 2/16/2017 8:12 pm : link
Ladd buries it!
Strome!!  
JayBinQueens : 2/16/2017 8:13 pm : link
!!
Whoa  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 8:13 pm : link
Rangers getting worked over now. Ouch.
RE: Strome!!  
JayBinQueens : 2/16/2017 8:13 pm : link
In comment 13363667 JayBinQueens said:
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!!


Wow. I feel dumb.

16 not 18
Great play  
Fish : 2/16/2017 8:14 pm : link
Way to skate. Completely different team this period
For all the G spot  
Stufftherun : 2/16/2017 8:17 pm : link
beaters, #18 is the biggest liability on the backline. Everything he does is in super slo-mo, and I know Greg will appreciate this, he can never find the net from the point.
RE: For all the G spot  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 8:20 pm : link
In comment 13363672 Stufftherun said:
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beaters, #18 is the biggest liability on the backline. Everything he does is in super slo-mo, and I know Greg will appreciate this, he can never find the net from the point.


I still think G is worse by a good margin. Doesn't make Staal good though.
Henrik  
JayBinQueens : 2/16/2017 8:22 pm : link
Made a great save on the cross ice pass keeping his pads on the ice
RE: RE: For all the G spot  
Stufftherun : 2/16/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13363673 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 13363672 Stufftherun said:


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beaters, #18 is the biggest liability on the backline. Everything he does is in super slo-mo, and I know Greg will appreciate this, he can never find the net from the point.



I still think G is worse by a good margin. Doesn't make Staal good though.


All Staal has is his reach and that ain't nearly enough in today's game in the fast lane especially when you've got cinderblocks for feet.
RE: For all the G spot  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13363672 Stufftherun said:
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beaters, #18 is the biggest liability on the backline. Everything he does is in super slo-mo, and I know Greg will appreciate this, he can never find the net from the point.


G Spot Beaters. Fuckin bowling ball technique for the squirt.
Maybe a dumb question  
JayBinQueens : 2/16/2017 8:28 pm : link
But do the strings on the jersey by the neck actually do anything?
Nice Lundquist Dive  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 8:30 pm : link
By Greiseball there. Too bad it didn't work.
Oh, it did work.  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 8:31 pm : link
Aaaaand the hockey gods take it away.
3 fucking  
KWhite2250 : 2/16/2017 8:31 pm : link
Terrible calls in a row. Good job refs
RE: Maybe a dumb question  
pjcas18 : 2/16/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13363683 JayBinQueens said:
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But do the strings on the jersey by the neck actually do anything?


no
Fuck is Bailey whining about?  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 8:37 pm : link
.
Ugh  
KWhite2250 : 2/16/2017 8:37 pm : link
Come on bailey man
This upcoming PP  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 8:38 pm : link
Might just win or lose the game.
I know McDonough is our best D man  
Jay in Toronto : 2/16/2017 8:48 pm : link
but I think he loses too many pucks at the point.

I'd love to see Skjei have a turn at the PP
Thank you, fellas  
pganut : 2/16/2017 8:53 pm : link
Appreciate your thoughts earlier. Sad scene as we lost a great person. A man you wish you could be like; never turned down helping anyone, gave so much of himself. A great husband and father, a connector, more grace than most of us could ever hope to have. Only 50 and had an unexpected heart attack and was in great shape.

Anyway, a barn burner here with the Isles having to start in a big hole to start the 3rd. You guys score, anything goes. We kill it, hopefully springboard off that momentum.
Pathetic.  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 9:00 pm : link
Wheels are gonna come off this thing now.
Beautiful  
KWhite2250 : 2/16/2017 9:00 pm : link
2 on 5 goal there!
Love Tavares on the pk  
Dave M : 2/16/2017 9:00 pm : link
....
Thats a goal  
KWhite2250 : 2/16/2017 9:02 pm : link
Boychuk pushed nash
What in the fuck  
bigbluehoya : 2/16/2017 9:02 pm : link
Is Doug Weight carrying on about?

It's about a full foot outside the crease and he got pushed.
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