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DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 9:34 am
-KP was reportedly ill (he played an awful game)

-Jennings reportedly achillies soreness

-Leonard 22 and 5

-Undertaker with another double-double, 11 and 10... +32 for the game!

-Vucevic 16 and 10 in 28 minutes

-Super Mario 8 points 1 rebound 1 assist, 25 minutes... he's not exactly a stat sheet filler...


-Saric 20 and 11, 9-18 from the field, 1 block 1 steal averaging 21 and 7 over his last 5 games, 53/37 shooting

-Smart 21 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 8 steals... wow. He's been excellent in a starting role recently.

-Kaminsky 27, 5 and 3, 11-18

-Maker 4 and 4 in 14 minutes

-Giannis 33 points, 9 boards, 3 assists, 4 steals

-Suddenly relevant Michael Beasley 7-9 shooting, 14 and 3 in 22 minutes

-Lopez 36... and 4

-Dirk 24 and 10

-Marc Gasol 15 points, 12 boards, 9 assists

-Harden 38, 12 and 12

-Wiggins 40, 4 and 2 on 15-26. Kid can flat out score the basketball. Last 5 games...33.6 points 4.4 boards 3.2 assists on 57/46... BEAST MODE.

-Towns 24 and 19

-Jokic 15 points, 14 boards 4 assists 1 steal 4 blocks

-Hayward 22, 6 and 7

-Ingram... 1-7 from the field 3 points, 2 boards... had a few nice games, last 3 however 4-17 from the field, 9 rebounds over 86 minutes of play...

-Chriss 15 and 8, 2 blocks, 2 steals
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Oak is generous  
Greg from LI : 2/16/2017 1:32 pm : link
In some ways, he's worse than Sterling

RE: Oak is generous  
Deej : 2/16/2017 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13363126 Greg from LI said:
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In some ways, he's worse than Sterling



I mean, Sterling's issue was effectively a personal matter, right? Dolan himself decided to fire Anucha Browne Sanders.
Luke Kennard?  
B in ALB : 2/16/2017 1:41 pm : link
Hahahahaha. Dude is like a fringe DLeague player, if that.
RE: Luke Kennard?  
dep026 : 2/16/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13363139 B in ALB said:
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Hahahahaha. Dude is like a fringe DLeague player, if that.


He has a desirable trait needed in the NBA.

Hell look at how long Singler has been there and he has none.
RE: RE: Luke Kennard?  
giantsfan44ab : 2/16/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13363179 dep026 said:
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Hahahahaha. Dude is like a fringe DLeague player, if that.



He has a desirable trait needed in the NBA.

Hell look at how long Singler has been there and he has none.


If McDermott can carve out a nice rotational role I don't see why Kennard can't. Hell if buddy Hield went top 10 I would think Kennard is a fringe 1st rounder in a good draft.
DX  
giantsfan44ab : 2/16/2017 2:15 pm : link
Has Kennard as a late 1st rounder, draft net has him at #19 right now. I'd take Bacon, Brown, and OG as wings over Kennard but if he slips into the 2nd round that's good value.
Big Baby on Doc Rivers  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 2:38 pm : link
Davis then shared his opinion on why Rivers hasn’t found the same level of success in Los Angeles as he did in Boston:

What Doc had in ’08 was special and he was lucky as hell. Lucky as hell. The year before that they was wearing trash bags, but then the next year they win it, now he is one of the best coaches ever? I’m just not feeling that. You know what I mean? You give credit to KG. You give credit to Paul Pierce. You give credit to Ray Allen. Those are the guys who made sure whatever Doc needed to be done, got done.

And see now it’s easy for Doc to do his job. And then you give credit to Danny Ainge. That’s the one you give credit to. Because I know multiple times he had to talk to Doc, just to say “Hey Doc, leave em alone. Hey Doc, ease up.”

[...]

I’m off that Doc tip. He’s a great guy but as far as that basketball stuff but I try to...
Being real  
Deej : 2/16/2017 2:53 pm : link
KG, Pierce, Rondo -- fierce competitors, intense guys. Allen a real pro. The recipe was there for a player-driven title.

I think coaching matters in the NBA but it's not near the top of the list. You need talent and the right kind of players -- guys who hustle and hold eachother accountable. Coaches can manage personalities and install schemes. Take defense -- which matters, the guys you have out there or the scheme? Answer is you need both, but a lot of coaches can coach up a decent scheme, whereas if you have the wrong guys to defend, basically every coach is cooked.
Noah, Jennings, O'Quinn  
PhilSimms15 : 2/16/2017 3:05 pm : link
Pretty weird that all three guys have wiped their social accounts clean so there is no mention of the Knicks. And Jennings made his accounts private.
RE: Noah, Jennings, O'Quinn  
giantsfan44ab : 2/16/2017 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13363281 PhilSimms15 said:
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Pretty weird that all three guys have wiped their social accounts clean so there is no mention of the Knicks. And Jennings made his accounts private.


Wait this happened to KOQ and Noah too?

Tommy Dee saying the mags had scouts in okc and have been talking to the Knicks about KOQ.

I'll take one Justin Anderson, please.
RE: Oakley  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/16/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13363108 DanMetroMan said:
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vs. Dolan 2.0

Sports Illustrated ✔ @SInow
Charles Oakley joined our @SInowLIVE today:

'Do you consider James Dolan on that same level as a Donald Sterling?'

Oakley: 'Yes'


Why would they even ask a question this stupid? The last time people were this pissed at Dolan, it was because he absolutely refused (against all rationality) to fire Isiah Thomas. There's no evidence James Dolan is a racist. There's plenty of evidence he doesn't like Charles Oakley and it's okay not to like people. He doesn't need to be insanely petty and vindictive, but there's no law that he has to like Oakley or that Oakley is Willis Reed and should be treated that way by the organization.

I struggle with the "good owner/bad owner" thing in basketball because so much of being "good" is luck and things that are out of control of the owner. Are the Cavs well run or have they just somehow managed to get 4 overall number 1 picks in 12 years? Were the Knicks unlucky that Steph Curry got picked right before them? Were the Thunder lucky that Oden was the first pick and not Durant? Were the Spurs lucky they got the 1st pick (and a top 10 all-time player) the ONLY season they were bad with David Robinson? There are obviously things the ownership is in control of and the best management teams are the ones that seem to acquire talent regardless of where they draft (like Spurs and Thunder). Dolan obviously hasn't hired people capable of doing that, nor has he allowed anyone to break the entire thing down. But if they had gotten lucky in the '03 Lottery, I'm fairly certain that even the dumbest management people alive would've known who to draft.
This  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:17 pm : link
would constitute "bad owner" right?

“That deal was done,” Lowry told USA TODAY Sports about a trade that would’ve sent him to the Knicks, and the Raptors would have received Metta World Peace, Iman Shumpert and a future first-round draft pick.

Imagine Lowry as the Knicks’ point guard, which is exactly what they need.

But the Knicks killed the deal, at the request of Knicks owner James Dolan, according to people familiar with the situation. Dolan was smarting from a deal with then-Denver Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri, who traded Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks for a handful of valuable assets. Dolan was worried Ujiri, now Toronto’s GM, was getting the best of the Knicks again.
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DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:20 pm : link
While Rory McIlroy prefers to date singles of the “normal” set, his former fiancée has found love with another gentleman of athletic fame.

Tennis stunner Caroline Wozniacki is dating 6-foot-9 NBA forward David Lee, her brother revealed.
RE: This  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/16/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13363297 DanMetroMan said:
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would constitute "bad owner" right?

“That deal was done,” Lowry told USA TODAY Sports about a trade that would’ve sent him to the Knicks, and the Raptors would have received Metta World Peace, Iman Shumpert and a future first-round draft pick.

Imagine Lowry as the Knicks’ point guard, which is exactly what they need.

But the Knicks killed the deal, at the request of Knicks owner James Dolan, according to people familiar with the situation. Dolan was smarting from a deal with then-Denver Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri, who traded Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks for a handful of valuable assets. Dolan was worried Ujiri, now Toronto’s GM, was getting the best of the Knicks again.


It's kind of old news, but nobody at the time thought this was a good move. Lowry, by his own admission, was fat and an underachiever until he got to Toronto. He wasn't well regarded at all, and then suddenly actually took a step in development.

Even here, nobody wanted to spend a 1 for that guy.
ESPN  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:21 pm : link
top 10 under 25

Anthony Davis (23, #1 in 2012)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (22, #15 in 2013)
Karl-Anthony Towns (21, #1 in 2015)
Joel Embiid (22, #3 in 2014)
Kyrie Irving (24, #1 in 2011)
Kristaps Porzingis (21, #4 in 2015)
Rudy Gobert (24, #27 in 2013)
Nikola Jokic (21, #41 in 2014)
Bradley Beal (23, #3 in 2012)
Jabari Parker (21, #2 in 2014)
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DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13363301 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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would constitute "bad owner" right?

“That deal was done,” Lowry told USA TODAY Sports about a trade that would’ve sent him to the Knicks, and the Raptors would have received Metta World Peace, Iman Shumpert and a future first-round draft pick.

Imagine Lowry as the Knicks’ point guard, which is exactly what they need.

But the Knicks killed the deal, at the request of Knicks owner James Dolan, according to people familiar with the situation. Dolan was smarting from a deal with then-Denver Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri, who traded Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks for a handful of valuable assets. Dolan was worried Ujiri, now Toronto’s GM, was getting the best of the Knicks again.



It's kind of old news, but nobody at the time thought this was a good move. Lowry, by his own admission, was fat and an underachiever until he got to Toronto. He wasn't well regarded at all, and then suddenly actually took a step in development.

Even here, nobody wanted to spend a 1 for that guy.


You don't think this is evidence that Dolan meddled in previous moves? He admitted as much with Michael Kay.
RE: ESPN  
giantsfan44ab : 2/16/2017 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13363303 DanMetroMan said:
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top 10 under 25

Anthony Davis (23, #1 in 2012)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (22, #15 in 2013)
Karl-Anthony Towns (21, #1 in 2015)
Joel Embiid (22, #3 in 2014)
Kyrie Irving (24, #1 in 2011)
Kristaps Porzingis (21, #4 in 2015)
Rudy Gobert (24, #27 in 2013)
Nikola Jokic (21, #41 in 2014)
Bradley Beal (23, #3 in 2012)
Jabari Parker (21, #2 in 2014)


Pretty fair. Jokic might have a case over Embiid for injuries and Kyrie/KP too.
..  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:25 pm : link
3 hours ago – via ESPN
Any Drummond deal at the deadline is an extreme long shot, but Jackson remains in play for Minnesota, Orlando, New Orleans, or some mystery destination. Even if Detroit keeps him, missing the playoffs would put dramatic changes on the table this summer.
RE: RE: RE: This  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/16/2017 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13363304 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13363297 DanMetroMan said:


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would constitute "bad owner" right?

“That deal was done,” Lowry told USA TODAY Sports about a trade that would’ve sent him to the Knicks, and the Raptors would have received Metta World Peace, Iman Shumpert and a future first-round draft pick.

Imagine Lowry as the Knicks’ point guard, which is exactly what they need.

But the Knicks killed the deal, at the request of Knicks owner James Dolan, according to people familiar with the situation. Dolan was smarting from a deal with then-Denver Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri, who traded Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks for a handful of valuable assets. Dolan was worried Ujiri, now Toronto’s GM, was getting the best of the Knicks again.



It's kind of old news, but nobody at the time thought this was a good move. Lowry, by his own admission, was fat and an underachiever until he got to Toronto. He wasn't well regarded at all, and then suddenly actually took a step in development.

Even here, nobody wanted to spend a 1 for that guy.



You don't think this is evidence that Dolan meddled in previous moves? He admitted as much with Michael Kay.


I didn't think that was even up for debate. We all know he does.

That was one of the moves I was glad he did meddle on. Knicks being what they are, there's no telling that Lowry completely changes career paths here. He probably turns into another Felton while the Knicks have pissed away another first rounder.
My  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:28 pm : link
only point was this idea lottery luck is all that separates good and bad owners is really ridiculous if you ask me. It may be what results in titles but Dolan isn't considered a bad owner simply because the Knicks haven't won titles in a long time.
shockeyisthebest  
PhilSimms15 : 2/16/2017 3:29 pm : link
Your analysis of good owner/bad owner in basketball, is 100 percent right on. Because BB is so much about one or two great players, an owner can look amazingly smart and wonderful if they get lucky enough to draft a Lebron, or a Duncan, or a Durant. An owner can look awful by missing out on a Curry by one pick, or not climbing into the first slot from fourth and missing Towns.

The media, and many fans have this incredibly black and white view of what is a good owner and what is a bad one. Sterling was a racist, was known as a horrible slumlord, fired Elgin Baylor and was sued. scrimped on the team until Stern awarded him Chris Paul.

Dolan might be a lousy musician and maybe not a great judge of character but he has never cut corners on investment in either of his two franchises, the Knicks or Rangers.

And by the way, how is Dolan such a good owner in hockey and a horrible one in basketball?
RE: ..  
giantsfan44ab : 2/16/2017 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13363306 DanMetroMan said:
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3 hours ago – via ESPN
Any Drummond deal at the deadline is an extreme long shot, but Jackson remains in play for Minnesota, Orlando, New Orleans, or some mystery destination. Even if Detroit keeps him, missing the playoffs would put dramatic changes on the table this summer.


Won't happen right now due to injuries but Zach Lavine + Dieng or jabari Parker for Drummond would make tons of sense for MIN and Milwaukee. SVG would get his much needed wing scorer.
So  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:31 pm : link
we ignore things like

-In 2007, Dolan was named as a defendant in a sexual harassment lawsuit submitted by a former Knicks executive, Anucha Browne-Sanders. Browne-Sanders accused Dolan of firing her out of spite after she complained about sexual harassment from Isiah Thomas. The court ruled in favor of Brown-Sanders and Dolan had to pay $3 million of the $11 million settlement. MSG was responsible for paying the remainder of the settlement.[16]



or what 7-8 coaches over the last decade?
How many GM's?

or-
In February 2015, Dolan responded to a letter from Irving Bierman, a 73-year-old, lifelong Knicks fan, that criticized Dolan's ownership of the Knicks and questioned his leadership with a seething letter of his own, telling the fan to "root for the Nets because the Knicks don't want you" and that Bierman was "a sad person" and probably an "alcoholic maybe".,[18][19][20] Dolan later addressed the issue with the press, but did not apologize, only saying the letter was a case of "tit for tat" and declaring the incident "over".,[21][22] Newly appointed NBA Commissioner Adam Silver did not reprimand or penalize Dolan, but instead further brushed the incident under the rug by calling Dolan a "consummate New Yorker” who received "an unkind email and responded with an unkind email”.,[23][24]

RE: shockeyisthebest  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13363312 PhilSimms15 said:
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Your analysis of good owner/bad owner in basketball, is 100 percent right on. Because BB is so much about one or two great players, an owner can look amazingly smart and wonderful if they get lucky enough to draft a Lebron, or a Duncan, or a Durant. An owner can look awful by missing out on a Curry by one pick, or not climbing into the first slot from fourth and missing Towns.

The media, and many fans have this incredibly black and white view of what is a good owner and what is a bad one. Sterling was a racist, was known as a horrible slumlord, fired Elgin Baylor and was sued. scrimped on the team until Stern awarded him Chris Paul.

Dolan might be a lousy musician and maybe not a great judge of character but he has never cut corners on investment in either of his two franchises, the Knicks or Rangers.

And by the way, how is Dolan such a good owner in hockey and a horrible one in basketball?


You make it sound like the Knicks have been good/solid but unable to win a title because they can't land a top player in the draft. The Knicks have been mostly AWFUL.

The Knicks since 1997 have won 50+ games twice... in 20 years. Since 1997 the Knicks have been over .500 6 times!!! 20 seasons 6 over .500!!! (2 of which were 99-2000 and 2000-2001). Since 2001 the Knicks have won 40 or more games twice. Yes that's right 16 seasons, 2 seasons 40 or more wins. That's not about titles, that's about being pathetic with tons off unusual off court garbage.
RE: My  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/16/2017 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13363311 DanMetroMan said:
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only point was this idea lottery luck is all that separates good and bad owners is really ridiculous if you ask me. It may be what results in titles but Dolan isn't considered a bad owner simply because the Knicks haven't won titles in a long time.


Even when he hasn't meddled, they've been terrible. Is it Dolan's fault Donnie Walsh drafted Jordan Hill? Like I said before, he hasn't hired the right people and he hasn't allowed the team to just be broken down completely. Those are undeniable criticisms.

That being said, even if someone hires the right person in the NBA (more than the other sports), they still need to get lucky. And some people just get lucky as hell regardless of who they hire.
Since 1997  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:37 pm : link
the Knicks have won 50 games 2 times... but less than 30 games 5 times (this year would be #6). 35 or less wins? 10 times (this would be 11)
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DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13363334 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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only point was this idea lottery luck is all that separates good and bad owners is really ridiculous if you ask me. It may be what results in titles but Dolan isn't considered a bad owner simply because the Knicks haven't won titles in a long time.



Even when he hasn't meddled, they've been terrible. Is it Dolan's fault Donnie Walsh drafted Jordan Hill? Like I said before, he hasn't hired the right people and he hasn't allowed the team to just be broken down completely. Those are undeniable criticisms.

That being said, even if someone hires the right person in the NBA (more than the other sports), they still need to get lucky. And some people just get lucky as hell regardless of who they hire.


They need to get lucky to win a title. That's undeniable. To have a solid/good team vs. truly awful over 20 seasons doesn't take "luck". Mills/Houston being forced on Phil Jackson? Routinely being Zeke obsessed. There are 8 seeds in the East, since 2001 the Knicks have managed to miss the playoffs 11 times (this would be 12). That also includes a 39-43 season where they made the playoffs and 2010 where they were 2 games over and made it.
Look at the Raptors.  
bceagle05 : 2/16/2017 3:46 pm : link
Have they made any "splash" moves? Not really. Solid drafting, solid signings here and there - just keep chipping away at it until you're winning 50+ games every year. If "super teams" like the Cavs and Warriors come together and knock you off, so be it. One of the reasons the 90s Knicks are so respected is because smart NBA fans know how difficult it is to get to the top of the mountain.
Dolan is a turd  
djm : 2/16/2017 3:57 pm : link
I think we all know that by now. Whether or not he's the sole reason why the Knicks have sucked since forever is tough to say but he's certainly an easy target. If I am Dolan, I am taking the blame. Owner should get the blame when the losing goes on forever.

That first round pick that Dolan didn't want to part with...wouldn't that pick end up being the KP pick? We weren't exactly teeming with first round picks the last 5 years.

Demar DeRozan was drafted the spot after Jordan Hill.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/16/2017 4:01 pm : link
Donnie Walsh, who the NBA media tells me did a wonderful job, drafted Jordan freakin' Hill between Steph Curry and DeRozan. Donnie Walsh was the type of guy Dolan "needed" to hire. How is this particular move a Dolan issue?

Making it all about the owner is easy and it fits the narrative, but it's not entirely accurate.
RE: Dolan is a turd  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13363358 djm said:
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I think we all know that by now. Whether or not he's the sole reason why the Knicks have sucked since forever is tough to say but he's certainly an easy target. If I am Dolan, I am taking the blame. Owner should get the blame when the losing goes on forever.

That first round pick that Dolan didn't want to part with...wouldn't that pick end up being the KP pick? We weren't exactly teeming with first round picks the last 5 years.


No. The Knicks were not allowed to trade the 2015 pick having traded the 2014 pick in the Melo deal, 2016 pick went for Bargnani, so the pick would have been the 2018 selection.
Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 4:04 pm : link
2013- THjr.
2014 dealt for Melo
2015 KP
2016 Dealt for Bargnani
RE: Demar DeRozan was drafted the spot after Jordan Hill.  
giantsfan44ab : 2/16/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13363365 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Donnie Walsh, who the NBA media tells me did a wonderful job, drafted Jordan freakin' Hill between Steph Curry and DeRozan. Donnie Walsh was the type of guy Dolan "needed" to hire. How is this particular move a Dolan issue?

Making it all about the owner is easy and it fits the narrative, but it's not entirely accurate.


Obviously not every little move is about the owner. But if the owner gives the GM a mandate and the GM doesn't follow, he will be fired. Like Billy king. The Nets owner told everyone he's going to win a ring in 5 years. The trade was obviously excessive but else was he supposed to do given the expectations of the owner.

If the owner wants to keep his draft picks he'll let it be known if the GM starts trading them away for vets. Dolan never told that to any of the GMs he hired.
Dolan, who is an alcoholic  
Deej : 2/16/2017 4:37 pm : link
sure seems to like to accuse other people of being alcoholics.
Dolan's Knicks have been awful  
steve in ky : 2/16/2017 9:55 pm : link
But I don't know if the litmus test for a good/bad owner is if he ever involved himself in personnel decisions. Is Mark Cuban a bad owner when he does it?
RE: Dolan's Knicks have been awful  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 10:02 pm : link
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But I don't know if the litmus test for a good/bad owner is if he ever involved himself in personnel decisions. Is Mark Cuban a bad owner when he does it?


Obviously not as it's worked for the Mavs. Bad owner is meddlesome and you lose. Dolan himself admits he knows very little about basketball or running a basketball team. Who knows how much Cuban really knows but he sells it well and they win games.
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DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 10:29 pm : link
Just the endorsement Jimmy was hoping for! @CharlesOakley34 #Knicks
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I cannot imagine that there is a worse owner  
Keith : 2/16/2017 10:41 pm : link
in sports. There is just so much wrong with how he runs things, it's not worth the energy discussing. He's awful.
Hawks  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 10:42 pm : link
apparently are looking to be buyers and have a bunch of picks...
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DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 10:50 pm : link
@IanBegley reporting "multiple" teams are interested in Derrick Rose #Knicks
I'm all for moving Rose  
Keith : 2/16/2017 10:53 pm : link
and getting whatever we can get. I'm curious if only playoff teams are interested, or someone wants to keep him long term. In the right situation, he can be an asset.
Rose to Minny makes some sense  
Keith : 2/16/2017 10:54 pm : link
with Rubio and a young player/pick coming back. I'm not sure Muhammed is enough for my taste, but something along those lines.
I  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 10:58 pm : link
just can't get passed Muhammed's assist #'s. I can't recall the last SF to play as much as he does with so few assists. 20 minutes per game... 0.5 assists!! He's had 2 or more assists 5 times all season!
I'd like to hear  
bceagle05 : 2/16/2017 10:59 pm : link
that the Knicks are sellers before I get too excited about trade rumors.
RE: I'd like to hear  
DanMetroMan : 2/16/2017 11:01 pm : link
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that the Knicks are sellers before I get too excited about trade rumors.


Prep yourself for PJ Tucker for a protected 1st lol
Rose to Minny makes sense also  
Keith : 2/16/2017 11:02 pm : link
because Minny is 12M under the cap, so we don't need to match salaries.
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bceagle05 : 2/16/2017 11:05 pm : link
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that the Knicks are sellers before I get too excited about trade rumors.



Prep yourself for PJ Tucker for a protected 1st lol


Yeah I'm bracing for it. I just can't fathom that a 13-time champion would chase 38 wins and an eighth seed like it's something to be proud of.
I think Rose to the 76ers make a ton of sense  
dep026 : 2/16/2017 11:06 pm : link
gives them their 2nd ball handler with Simmons return. They have enough defense with Embiid and covington where he can play a weak permiter defender.

If they could agree to a long term deal..... I think that would be a nice fit.
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TyreeHelmet : 2/16/2017 11:45 pm : link
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that the Knicks are sellers before I get too excited about trade rumors.



Prep yourself for PJ Tucker for a protected 1st lol



Yeah I'm bracing for it. I just can't fathom that a 13-time champion would chase 38 wins and an eighth seed like it's something to be proud of.


You have to hope PJax is smart enough to see he will ultimately be judged for the young players he brings to the Knicks and not chase the playoffs. If he sets the Knicks up with KP/ Willy/ top pick 2017 pick, his tenure will be be seen very favorably for years to come. But going off his signing of Noah and trading for Rose makes you think otherwise.
At this point  
Jay on the Island : 2/17/2017 10:24 am : link
I would be happy with the Knicks trading Rose and Jennings and getting whatever they can get for them as long as they don't take a bad contract back in return. I would rather keep O'Quinn but if the Knicks are offered a 1st round pick for him I would take it. It's time to blow this whole thing up and build around KP and Hernangomez.
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