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Ed Werder of ESPN reports that Romo is expecting to be released, not traded. Apart from the complexity of trading an aging quarterback with a recent history of significant injuries, Romo would have to welcome a deal that transfers his contract (at a $14 million salary) to a new team for which he may or may not want to play. It makes more sense for him to negotiate a new deal from scratch with the team of his choice. And if that team doesn’t have to give up draft picks to get Romo, that team may be inclined to pay him even more than it otherwise would. So count this report from Werder as Step One. Before too long, Romo could be stepping right out of Dallas, with an agreed list of potential destinations based on a secret side deal that no one ever will acknowledge. |
Of course when you're anead most of the time, that part of his game wasn't really tested all that much..
I'll be happy when he's no longer in the division
If they cut Romo, they will save $5.1 mil on the cap. So they would still be $7.8 mil OVER the cap in 2017.
Off topic, but how anyone can suggest the Cowboys will make a run at JPP is beyond me.
Romo's dead money is as follows:
2017 - $19.6 mil
2018 - $8.9 mil
2019 - $3.2 mil
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They'll kick the can down the road for most of the players. I can see restructures for Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick, where they can lower both of their cap hits to near nothing and save almost $17 million on the cap by just doing those 2.
Sean Lee who has a 9 million base, and Dez who's at 13 are also candidates for this restructure, though a little trickier with both injury histories.
If they cut Romo, they will save $5.1 mil on the cap. So they would still be $7.8 mil OVER the cap in 2017.
Off topic, but how anyone can suggest the Cowboys will make a run at JPP is beyond me.
Romo's dead money is as follows:
2017 - $19.6 mil
2018 - $8.9 mil
2019 - $3.2 mil Link - ( New Window )
Eddie, I'm far from cap savvy and I believe parts of the dilemma of 'cap hell' are a myth, but I too can not see a Cowboys' run at JPP from a financial standpoint
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But trading him gives the cowboys control over where he goes and possibly gets them something in return.
If the Cowboys have trade options, even minimal it would be sort of foolish to cut him, unless the post 6/1 designation is that critical to their cap.
But trading him gives the cowboys control over where he goes and possibly gets them something in return.
If the Cowboys have trade options, even minimal it would be sort of foolish to cut him, unless the post 6/1 designation is that critical to their cap.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually believe JJ loves him like a son and wouldn't saddle him with a team he would prefer not playing for. Then again, do we ever know with JJ?
That would be great.
Romo is likely going to be a properly supported QB after all these years. Should be a good storyline for 2017.
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cap is the same in a trade or cut unless if they cut him they can designate it post June 1 to spread out the dead money and accelerate the cap savings into 2017.
But trading him gives the cowboys control over where he goes and possibly gets them something in return.
If the Cowboys have trade options, even minimal it would be sort of foolish to cut him, unless the post 6/1 designation is that critical to their cap.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually believe JJ loves him like a son and wouldn't saddle him with a team he would prefer not playing for. Then again, do we ever know with JJ?
That might be true, but it's the kind of thing that separates Belichick from his peers. If Tom Brady couldn't play do you think Belichick would do hat's in his best interest or the team's?
I think we all know the answer to that, as does Tom Brady.
They'll kick the can down the road for most of the players. I can see restructures for Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick, where they can lower both of their cap hits to near nothing and save almost $17 million on the cap by just doing those 2.
Sean Lee who has a 9 million base, and Dez who's at 13 are also candidates for this restructure, though a little trickier with both injury histories.
Frederick restructure probably gets than $10m or so, Smith 7 so that's your 17. That only gets them even and they still have to set aside rookie signing pool ($4/5m) and in season spending money (43m). Lee and Bryant have contracts that end in '19 so there isn't as much savings in restructuring them. It will be interesting to see if they're willing to do all of them.
The problem for the Cowboys is numbers. They have 6 starters who are FA, plus some depth players. 3 of their starting 4 in the secondary. I think they'll be lucky to resign or replace more than 3.
Hopefully I'm wrong though.
Hopefully I'm wrong though.
Not happening. No one is that dumb. Not even the Jets.
Brown's give up their 2 first rounders for Cousins
Cousins reunited with Bob
Romo signs 20 mil contract with Redskins
Romo gets hurt and retires after 3rd game
Redskins have no QB
This story is writing itself!
In his final year.
He was somewhat productive last year but not 12.2M IMO.
He's not a restructure candidate in the final year of his contract unless they want a pure extension but at 34 years old, he's someone I'd simply ask to take a pay cut.
I'd offer him a $1M salary with some incentives based on catches, downs played, etc.
save them 5M plus.
actually - it is a great deal -- it will take the Cowboys out of cap hell as they are not paying Dak franchise QB money
they got rid of their albatross which was Romo -
how can anyone fault jerry for signing romo to franchise contract in the first place -- was jerry supposed to know that last years' fourth rounder would take his place successfully?
In his final year.
He was somewhat productive last year but not 12.2M IMO.
He's not a restructure candidate in the final year of his contract unless they want a pure extension but at 34 years old, he's someone I'd simply ask to take a pay cut.
I'd offer him a $1M salary with some incentives based on catches, downs played, etc.
save them 5M plus.
Pretty cold even for JJ. HOF TE. "Face of the franchise" type. Certainly possible but if I'm Witten I say no, go ahead, cut me.
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12.2M?
In his final year.
He was somewhat productive last year but not 12.2M IMO.
He's not a restructure candidate in the final year of his contract unless they want a pure extension but at 34 years old, he's someone I'd simply ask to take a pay cut.
I'd offer him a $1M salary with some incentives based on catches, downs played, etc.
save them 5M plus.
Pretty cold even for JJ. HOF TE. "Face of the franchise" type. Certainly possible but if I'm Witten I say no, go ahead, cut me.
I hate to come back to this, but would Belichick pay him 12.2M?
Emotion can't be a factor in the NFL salary cap. Simply can't be. Make decisions based on future expectations and value vs. what have you done in the past.
it's an easy way for a team to become mediocre and in cap hell.
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cap is the same in a trade or cut unless if they cut him they can designate it post June 1 to spread out the dead money and accelerate the cap savings into 2017.
But trading him gives the cowboys control over where he goes and possibly gets them something in return.
If the Cowboys have trade options, even minimal it would be sort of foolish to cut him, unless the post 6/1 designation is that critical to their cap.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually believe JJ loves him like a son and wouldn't saddle him with a team he would prefer not playing for. Then again, do we ever know with JJ?
That might be true, but it's the kind of thing that separates Belichick from his peers. If Tom Brady couldn't play do you think Belichick would do hat's in his best interest or the team's?
I think we all know the answer to that, as does Tom Brady.
I think Brady would be the absolute exception for Belichick. No way he cuts him, imv..Even if he might, Kraft would never allow it
But trading him gives the cowboys control over where he goes and possibly gets them something in return.
If the Cowboys have trade options, even minimal it would be sort of foolish to cut him, unless the post 6/1 designation is that critical to their cap.
Depends what "minimal" is. If the best offer they can get is a 4th for Romo, they might find it more useful to cut him as a June 1 target and spread the dead money over 2 years. Especially since 3/4s of their secondary needs to be re-signed/replaced.
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I hate to come back to this, but would Belichick pay him 12.2M?
Emotion can't be a factor in the NFL salary cap. Simply can't be. Make decisions based on future expectations and value vs. what have you done in the past.
it's an easy way for a team to become mediocre and in cap hell.
Not emotion. I don't think JJ has the leverage to do it. JJ offers a salary reduction. Witten says no. Does JJ cut him. No. He can't so Witten gets his $12.2m.
Of course when you're anead most of the time, that part of his game wasn't really tested all that much..
I'll be happy when he's no longer in the division
Witten is the ultimate team player. Did you hear a peep out of him when his consecutive catch streak was ended? ( they actually threw him a TD but was called back on a holding call and didn't target him the rest of the game).
He's someone that can catch 10 passes a game but when he wasn't in the game plan as a receiver he contributed as an excellent blocker.
Something tells me that his endorsements last year may have been some sort of reward for accepting the " whatever the team needs" request.
I think he's likely to take a pay cut and get it back somewhere down the road in the front office or more endorsements but if he were somehow let go because of his cap hit, we would need to jump all over Witten and make him Eli's new best friend for the next 2 years.
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I hate to come back to this, but would Belichick pay him 12.2M?
Emotion can't be a factor in the NFL salary cap. Simply can't be. Make decisions based on future expectations and value vs. what have you done in the past.
it's an easy way for a team to become mediocre and in cap hell.
Not emotion. I don't think JJ has the leverage to do it. JJ offers a salary reduction. Witten says no. Does JJ cut him. No. He can't so Witten gets his $12.2m.
I'd cut him then. the face of the franchise, HOF TE stuff is emotional or irrelevant to future production and value and it's probably the kind of thinking that contributed to the Giants keeping Cruz instead of signing a different WR.
Witten is not worth 12.2M, if he wasn't "Jason Witten" he'd be cut.
People here talk about cutting or trading DRC, DRC had more value last year than Witten.
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Not emotion. I don't think JJ has the leverage to do it. JJ offers a salary reduction. Witten says no. Does JJ cut him. No. He can't so Witten gets his $12.2m.
I'd cut him then. the face of the franchise, HOF TE stuff is emotional or irrelevant to future production and value and it's probably the kind of thinking that contributed to the Giants keeping Cruz instead of signing a different WR.
Witten is not worth 12.2M, if he wasn't "Jason Witten" he'd be cut.
People here talk about cutting or trading DRC, DRC had more value last year than Witten.
No, you're right, he's not worth 12.2 but as you said he is "Jason Witten" and I don't think JJ has the stones to cut him. Now, maybe Witten agrees for the good of the team. We'll see.
As for Romo, I seriously doubt they don't get something for him....possibly a conditional pick, based on his performance for another team....making him a post June 1st cut almost means nothing financially(only a difference of 1M dollars).....I am sure Jerruh has respect for Tony.....and he would only talk to teams that he knows Tony would be willing to go to......
As for Romo, I seriously doubt they don't get something for him....possibly a conditional pick, based on his performance for another team....making him a post June 1st cut almost means nothing financially(only a difference of 1M dollars).....I am sure Jerruh has respect for Tony.....and he would only talk to teams that he knows Tony would be willing to go to......
Stand corrected Doomster. Took the claims at face value. In which case, no way Witten takes a cut from 7.4. But I think you're wrong on Romo. I think he'll be a FA. JJ going to let him control his own future.
As for Romo, I seriously doubt they don't get something for him....possibly a conditional pick, based on his performance for another team....making him a post June 1st cut almost means nothing financially(only a difference of 1M dollars).....I am sure Jerruh has respect for Tony.....and he would only talk to teams that he knows Tony would be willing to go to......
OTC has it at a $9M difference if Romo is cut before June 1st vs after.
As for Romo, I seriously doubt they don't get something for him....possibly a conditional pick, based on his performance for another team....making him a post June 1st cut almost means nothing financially(only a difference of 1M dollars).....I am sure Jerruh has respect for Tony.....and he would only talk to teams that he knows Tony would be willing to go to......
Don't be pedantic, his cap number is 12.2M what he gets paid is 100% irrelevant to the salary cap.
In my example when I mentioned the pay cut, I said I'd offer him a $1M salary which would save them over $5M on the salary cap, which is all that matters from a savings standpoint.
and if he was unwilling to talk pay cut, then yes I'd cut him. He's not worth a 12.2M cap hit. The fact they can only save 7.4M of it is not in dispute with anything I've said.
You mean Witten😊
MAkes me smile every day this off-season. I was pretty down when the Giants lost at GB but once Dallas went down I looked back on this season very fondly. One of the most enjoyable non super bowl seasons ever for me.
4-2 in the east and sweeping one of those east teams works for me every year. Do that every year and the Giants will make the playoffs every year.
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in Ware and Romo makes me smile
You mean Witten😊
Well they had to cut Ware too!
Despite his age & diminishing skill set, he's better than anything we've had in some time.
Not saying Giants shouldnt draft a TE too, but give them time to develop the younger players.
Don't they have Palmer? Cutting Palmer would mean $28.75 million dollars in dead money. Keeping both would be $38 million in cap devoted to QB, assuming Romo keeps his $14 million contract number.
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for the Arizona Cardinals.
Don't they have Palmer? Cutting Palmer would mean $28.75 million dollars in dead money. Keeping both would be $38 million in cap devoted to QB, assuming Romo keeps his $14 million contract number.
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Romo is going to cost them 9 million... NEXT OFFSEASON. Great deal Jerry!
actually - it is a great deal -- it will take the Cowboys out of cap hell as they are not paying Dak franchise QB money
they got rid of their albatross which was Romo -
how can anyone fault jerry for signing romo to franchise contract in the first place -- was jerry supposed to know that last years' fourth rounder would take his place successfully?
And after they get "out of cao hell", Prescott will be in line for a new deal.
I think the Cowboys will try to extend Witten for 2 more years to lessen cap hit in 2017. Witten keeps himself in great shape and can still be productive in this Cowboys offense foe an additional 2 years. He Is for sure a sure a First time up HOF candidate.
Hopefully I'm wrong though.
Nobody would trade a 1st rounder for a 38 year old, nobody. That would be managerial incompetence an an astounding level.
Truth is, they weren't going to get a lot for Romo at his age with his back. They will cut him.