I emphasize rumor before I get killed. Just thought it was interesting. Saw it on Facebook, no link...
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Miami Herald beat writer Adam Beasley says the Dolphins are looking into trading for a big name CB. A source close to the situation said that DRC's name has been discussed as a possible option.
tied up with Jenkins the Giants have and the 1st round pick investment in Apple trading DRC only makes any sense if the Giants have a 3rd CB who can replace him effectively in the slot.
Several people mentioned trading DRC would be Belichickian, but it wouldn't be if he didn't have a CB who could replace DRC.
Did any of you watch the GB game? As soon as DRC left the field, the Packers picked on Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall.
Was that a surprise?
So, no Belichick wouldn't trade DRC unless he had a quality replacement.
And look where Belichick's DB's came from.
Malcolm Butler: UDFA
Logan Ryan who is a UFA now 3rd round
Eric Rowe; trade with PHI (4th round pick)
Justin Coleman (bounced around then signed off the SEA PS)
Cyrus Jones (2nd round pick)
not a ton of investment there, more coaching and development than investment.
But just to demonstrate their versatility the Patriots show they can fill holes with UFA's and trades.
They signed Revis as well as Browner.
I don't see trading DRC as a Belichickian move, I see it as a bad move until I see who the Giants replace him with.
They get away with their model because they have great coaching and win. They get good players to take discounts. The only other team in sports that does that to my knowledge is the Spurs. Cleveland and SF had a shit load of cap space and couldn't buy free agents last year. Sometimes money isn't enough. When we start turning Donnel, Flowers, Hart, Tye, Vereen, Jerry, Newhouse, Bromley, etc. into legitimate NFL starters then we can start talking about handling business like Belichick. Only then can we start swinging our dicks around. Until then, lets live in reality.
They get away with their model because they have great coaching and win. They get good players to take discounts. The only other team in sports that does that to my knowledge is the Spurs. Cleveland and SF had a shit load of cap space and couldn't buy free agents last year. Sometimes money isn't enough. When we start turning Donnel, Flowers, Hart, Tye, Vereen, Jerry, Newhouse, Bromley, etc. into legitimate NFL starters then we can start talking about handling business like Belichick. Only then can we start swinging our dicks around. Until then, lets live in reality.
So no one can say a transaction is similar to one Belichick would make?
got it.
RE: Mentally, corner is one of the easiest positions on the field. Â
Physically, corners take time to develop. If you think a rookie is coming in and giving us anything near what DRC has given us you will be extremely disappointed. And for those that will bring up Apple, he did not come close to playing at DRC's level last year. The future is bright for him but he is still developing. I am all for drafting a corner this year but not at the expense of DRC.
I don't believe in weakening a strength; certainly not to gain $5 million in cap room and get a non-premium draft pick. I'd rather go the other way and invest in a CB in addition to retaining DRC. The money is there and then some if we don't retain JPP, a player of less importance than DRC (as brutally illustrated in Green Bay) and twice the cost.
Fair enough. I do think a 2nd rd pick is a premium asset but hard to argue with his logic.
tied up with Jenkins the Giants have and the 1st round pick investment in Apple trading DRC only makes any sense if the Giants have a 3rd CB who can replace him effectively in the slot.
Several people mentioned trading DRC would be Belichickian, but it wouldn't be if he didn't have a CB who could replace DRC.
Did any of you watch the GB game? As soon as DRC left the field, the Packers picked on Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall.
DRC left the game in the first quarter people. The Giants defense held their own until late in the third quarter. The game got out of hand as the defense wore down and 12 got hot. This idea that ONCE drc went out is bullshit.
tied up with Jenkins the Giants have and the 1st round pick investment in Apple trading DRC only makes any sense if the Giants have a 3rd CB who can replace him effectively in the slot.
Several people mentioned trading DRC would be Belichickian, but it wouldn't be if he didn't have a CB who could replace DRC.
Did any of you watch the GB game? As soon as DRC left the field, the Packers picked on Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall.
DRC left the game in the first quarter people. The Giants defense held their own until late in the third quarter. The game got out of hand as the defense wore down and 12 got hot. This idea that ONCE drc went out is bullshit.
Fair enough, maybe not once he left the game, because the pass rush was still effective in the first half, but make no mistake about it, zero debate, Rodgers was targeting Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall. Apple gave up some plays too, he's not immune from blame, but Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall were easily exploited.
Look at the Saints game in 2015 too, DRC comes out for one play, what happens on that play, TD to Cooks with Wade covering.
It's easy for opposing QB's to target a specific CB and when DRC was out the targets went at his replacement.
If it makes you feel better I'll add that the pass rush helped keep Rodgers from exploiting it until the 3rd quarter.
A draft pick. Hopefully this draft is stacked with CB's would love to pick one up. Hopefully all holes (LT, G, TE, DE, DT) are filled before the draft.
I want WR, RB, CB holes filled by draft picks.
Also TE and DE if the right player is there.
It hurt the Giants to lose DRC against the Pack ... Â
They get away with their model because they have great coaching and win. They get good players to take discounts. The only other team in sports that does that to my knowledge is the Spurs. Cleveland and SF had a shit load of cap space and couldn't buy free agents last year. Sometimes money isn't enough. When we start turning Donnel, Flowers, Hart, Tye, Vereen, Jerry, Newhouse, Bromley, etc. into legitimate NFL starters then we can start talking about handling business like Belichick. Only then can we start swinging our dicks around. Until then, lets live in reality.
So no one can say a transaction is similar to one Belichick would make?
got it.
Not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that Bekichick shouldn't be the guy we compare every possible decision to. All I keep reading on here are things like Belichick would let JPP go. This move would be a move that Belichick would make. Belichick is not perfect with his moves. He isn't perfect with his trades, acquisitions, draft picks, etc. I think everybody and their mother would like to get discounts on players in FA but that almost never happens in sports.
RE: It hurt the Giants to lose DRC against the Pack ... Â
But the D ran out of gas because the Giants O didn't give them much time to recharge. DRC presence would not have changed that or the game outcome.
Impossible to say.
Maybe with DRC on the field the Packers don't connect on the Hail Mary.
People also conveniently forget it was a 14 - 13 game with 5+ minutes left in the 3rd.
The Giants D never stopped GB from scoring again the whole game.
Yes, the offense from that point was all 3 and outs or turnovers, but the defense couldn't stop them and it was all through the air even 3 3rd downs on what really turned out to be the game clinching drive, including a 3rd and 9 and a 3rd and 10 on that drive.
plenty of blame to go around and no one thing probably changes it, but losing DRC hurt the Giants IMO more than any one thing.
They get away with their model because they have great coaching and win. They get good players to take discounts. The only other team in sports that does that to my knowledge is the Spurs. Cleveland and SF had a shit load of cap space and couldn't buy free agents last year. Sometimes money isn't enough. When we start turning Donnel, Flowers, Hart, Tye, Vereen, Jerry, Newhouse, Bromley, etc. into legitimate NFL starters then we can start talking about handling business like Belichick. Only then can we start swinging our dicks around. Until then, lets live in reality.
So no one can say a transaction is similar to one Belichick would make?
got it.
Not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that Bekichick shouldn't be the guy we compare every possible decision to. All I keep reading on here are things like Belichick would let JPP go. This move would be a move that Belichick would make. Belichick is not perfect with his moves. He isn't perfect with his trades, acquisitions, draft picks, etc. I think everybody and their mother would like to get discounts on players in FA but that almost never happens in sports.
he really only gets a discount on Brady IMO and I think that's the next Patriots scandal, TB12, not sure, but I don't think anyone else gives him a significant discount. He lost Welker because of $$.
McCourty reportedly took less to remain in NE, but Mara refuted that, said the offer was similar and McCourty said himself after receiving the Giants and Eagles offers, he went back to NE and said "here is what I need to stay" and the Patriots agreed.
he isn't long for this team and the Giants believe that we have a legit starter in Eli Apple. There's little chance that DRC is on the Giants after this season. So if someone makes a great offer, you take it. You will probably end up downgrading the 3rd CB position, but you'd save money and add a good asset moving forward.
Excellent analysis. But I'd still probably keep him because it's a passing league, and a third corner of his quality is so valuable. We also have nobody to replace him. A rookie won't meet his performance in the first year in all likelihood, and the team is build to win now.
thanks, good read, there are very few examples in here of players taking less to stay in NE.
They say Edelman, but Edelman was extended before the 2014 season. he had one good season under his belt and no Super Bowls, so it rings a little hollow when your examples are stretches.
Chris Long and Lagarette Blount are their examples besides Brady, who I believe has extenuating circumstances and players like Long and Blount are coaching creations, not discounts.
You saw this in the SB. Blount fumbled, he barely saw the field and out of no where James White becomes a star.
I agree with you people shouldn't compare their teams to Belichick, but not because of discounts players take to go there, but because no one coaches up players or prepares like they do in New England.
He is one of the few corners around who has retained his speed deep into his career. He remains the fastest guy on the team. In that sense he reminds me of HOFer Mike Haynes, who was probably as fast the day he retired as he was when left Arizona St for the Patriots. Cut the shit. His disguised coverages and ball sense saved about 4 games last season. Plus he's a leader to the younger guys. He will help Apple, who is talented but needs a ton of work. Retain key talent. Sign free agents . Fuck trades unless moving up in the draft for a guy that they rate all by his lonesome .
When I say discounts I mean either less than they could get somewhere else or bargain type players that they get the most out of. So, I wasn't as clear as I meant to be. Basically, what I am trying to say is they don't overpay for anybody. That would be more accurate. We paid top dollar for Vernon. We paid big chunks of change to Harrison amd Jenkins. NE would never do that but our defense can be even better next year if we make the right moves. If we followed NE's model our defense would be bone dry. The Giants problem, imo, is that they HOPE players will work out without necessarily having a backup plan. Their plans at LB and TE are basically just get as many bodies in as possible and someone will rise to the top. Fine, but there needs to be some talent there. I liked the collection of LBs this year. TEs? Not so much. Or they tale the approach they did with Flowers and just gave him the job. Where was the competition the last 2 years? Mistakes like that have hurt this team way more than paying guys in FA. So, I hope they realize this and correct it.
When I say discounts I mean either less than they could get somewhere else or bargain type players that they get the most out of. So, I wasn't as clear as I meant to be. Basically, what I am trying to say is they don't overpay for anybody. That would be more accurate. We paid top dollar for Vernon. We paid big chunks of change to Harrison amd Jenkins. NE would never do that but our defense can be even better next year if we make the right moves. If we followed NE's model our defense would be bone dry. The Giants problem, imo, is that they HOPE players will work out without necessarily having a backup plan. Their plans at LB and TE are basically just get as many bodies in as possible and someone will rise to the top. Fine, but there needs to be some talent there. I liked the collection of LBs this year. TEs? Not so much. Or they tale the approach they did with Flowers and just gave him the job. Where was the competition the last 2 years? Mistakes like that have hurt this team way more than paying guys in FA. So, I hope they realize this and correct it.
They don't overpay I agree 100% with, it explains (partly) why there is no Chandler Jones in NE, no Jamie Collins NE.
Guys they knew were going to get a ton of money and they could replace.
They can get away with it though because they can coach up the next guy or find cast-offs like Chris Long and Jabal Sheard and maximize their production. Belichick turned UDFA Malcolm Butler into Darelle Revis light.
So, IMO, because they can coach up the players they need to they can get away with not overpaying anyone.
I think their coaching/system prowess allows them to dictate the roster and personnel decisions.
Not many teams can get away with that.
Can't wait to see their Donta Hightower offer. I bet they franchise tag him.
you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
Lol this comment shows you didnt read the thread. Thats simply not true
RE: Looks like the trade may involve Brandon Albert Â
DRC was one of the top CBs last year, Albert was ranked 65 out of 78 tackles. His 2017 salary is $8.875M ($9.575M in 2018). I don't think his play in 2016 justifies that much pay/cap space. IMO he would have to take a pay cut, and the Giants would need to receive additional compensation if DRC is in the deal.
RE: RE: DRC was an integral part of our defense... Â
you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
Lol this comment shows you didnt read the thread. Thats simply not true
NO, I did not read through the entire thread. I dont have time for that shit. I just responded to the initial thread post which said there was a rumor that DRC would be traded.
and had one of his best seasons last year. He is turning 31 in April but still has some wheels on him. He is cost controlled for the next 2 seasons. I would not trade him for anything less then a 2nd round pick
you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
that make me say no, and they've already been mentioned by others.
But if I am making a trade, in a rather to very meh draft, especially for our #1 need of T, it'll be for a pick a lot closer to 33 than at 50 ish, not far from us,and not for DRC.
RE: RE: DRC was an integral part of our defense... Â
you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
We did cut Cruz and Jennings so that's a start.
Matt... how exactly does cutting a player improve the play on the field?
The reality is that DRC is also about to turn 31, there will be a decline in the not too distant future. Should there be a good value trade offer for DRC, it should at least be considered.
DRC currently has a cap value of $8.5m. If we were to trade him, we would have $4m in dead money and also get $4.5 in additional cap room to address other needs. From a playing time point of view.
As far as replacing DRC does, we have Jenkins and Apple (who is likely to keep getting better). We would need a third CB, but there are solid options in free agency plus there will likely be very good talent available in the draft who we could develop.
The real question is what would we be offered in return? Some combination of draft picks would be a viable option
Some have mentioned a possible trade for Jarvis Landry. Landry is in the final year of his rookie deal. He is going to need to be paid next year. Depending how he fits into new coach Adam Gase’s long term plans, Landry could potentially be available.
We are also going to need a wide receiver to replace Cruz and upgrade our receiving group. Landry is more of a short-mid range threat with dangerous YAC ability. I expect a case could be made that this could be an option for McAdoo’s west coast offence, particularly if it allowed Beckham to be more of a vertical threat.
After a trade, the last year of Landry’s rookie contract would have a cap impact of $893,852 with no guaranteed money. Which would mean we would also gain a little over $3.5m in cap room.
I am not suggesting that we should or should not trade DRC. On the surface it seems like it could be a viable option.
But DRC played less snaps. Jenkins was our best CB. Apple could easily be almost as good spooner than later. Drop deep draft at CB.
Draft one early w an extra pick hat they get for him. Keeps the cap low for harder to find positions that they have to upgrade via FA long term.
I think If you have to manage a guys snap to keep him healthy it's. It a dumb idea to read him if you get value. Giants need to re up JPP. I trust them to find another CB a lot more than to find another DE
Several people mentioned trading DRC would be Belichickian, but it wouldn't be if he didn't have a CB who could replace DRC.
Did any of you watch the GB game? As soon as DRC left the field, the Packers picked on Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall.
Was that a surprise?
So, no Belichick wouldn't trade DRC unless he had a quality replacement.
And look where Belichick's DB's came from.
Malcolm Butler: UDFA
Logan Ryan who is a UFA now 3rd round
Eric Rowe; trade with PHI (4th round pick)
Justin Coleman (bounced around then signed off the SEA PS)
Cyrus Jones (2nd round pick)
not a ton of investment there, more coaching and development than investment.
But just to demonstrate their versatility the Patriots show they can fill holes with UFA's and trades.
They signed Revis as well as Browner.
I don't see trading DRC as a Belichickian move, I see it as a bad move until I see who the Giants replace him with.
Is Wade the 4th CB? If so, it's a lot less important than who replaces DRC, the 3rd CB.
So no one can say a transaction is similar to one Belichick would make?
got it.
Fair enough. I do think a 2nd rd pick is a premium asset but hard to argue with his logic.
Several people mentioned trading DRC would be Belichickian, but it wouldn't be if he didn't have a CB who could replace DRC.
Did any of you watch the GB game? As soon as DRC left the field, the Packers picked on Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall.
DRC left the game in the first quarter people. The Giants defense held their own until late in the third quarter. The game got out of hand as the defense wore down and 12 got hot. This idea that ONCE drc went out is bullshit.
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tied up with Jenkins the Giants have and the 1st round pick investment in Apple trading DRC only makes any sense if the Giants have a 3rd CB who can replace him effectively in the slot.
Several people mentioned trading DRC would be Belichickian, but it wouldn't be if he didn't have a CB who could replace DRC.
Did any of you watch the GB game? As soon as DRC left the field, the Packers picked on Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall.
DRC left the game in the first quarter people. The Giants defense held their own until late in the third quarter. The game got out of hand as the defense wore down and 12 got hot. This idea that ONCE drc went out is bullshit.
Fair enough, maybe not once he left the game, because the pass rush was still effective in the first half, but make no mistake about it, zero debate, Rodgers was targeting Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall. Apple gave up some plays too, he's not immune from blame, but Wade, Sensabaugh, and Hall were easily exploited.
Look at the Saints game in 2015 too, DRC comes out for one play, what happens on that play, TD to Cooks with Wade covering.
It's easy for opposing QB's to target a specific CB and when DRC was out the targets went at his replacement.
If it makes you feel better I'll add that the pass rush helped keep Rodgers from exploiting it until the 3rd quarter.
A draft pick. Hopefully this draft is stacked with CB's would love to pick one up. Hopefully all holes (LT, G, TE, DE, DT) are filled before the draft.
I want WR, RB, CB holes filled by draft picks.
Also TE and DE if the right player is there.
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They get away with their model because they have great coaching and win. They get good players to take discounts. The only other team in sports that does that to my knowledge is the Spurs. Cleveland and SF had a shit load of cap space and couldn't buy free agents last year. Sometimes money isn't enough. When we start turning Donnel, Flowers, Hart, Tye, Vereen, Jerry, Newhouse, Bromley, etc. into legitimate NFL starters then we can start talking about handling business like Belichick. Only then can we start swinging our dicks around. Until then, lets live in reality.
So no one can say a transaction is similar to one Belichick would make?
got it.
Not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that Bekichick shouldn't be the guy we compare every possible decision to. All I keep reading on here are things like Belichick would let JPP go. This move would be a move that Belichick would make. Belichick is not perfect with his moves. He isn't perfect with his trades, acquisitions, draft picks, etc. I think everybody and their mother would like to get discounts on players in FA but that almost never happens in sports.
Impossible to say.
Maybe with DRC on the field the Packers don't connect on the Hail Mary.
People also conveniently forget it was a 14 - 13 game with 5+ minutes left in the 3rd.
The Giants D never stopped GB from scoring again the whole game.
Yes, the offense from that point was all 3 and outs or turnovers, but the defense couldn't stop them and it was all through the air even 3 3rd downs on what really turned out to be the game clinching drive, including a 3rd and 9 and a 3rd and 10 on that drive.
plenty of blame to go around and no one thing probably changes it, but losing DRC hurt the Giants IMO more than any one thing.
Per Salguero, “there is sudden and significant interest from at least one and perhaps other teams in acquiring Albert.”
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Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald, Albert has been told he’ll be cut, but as of the end of the day on Thursday he remains on the roster.
Per Salguero, “there is sudden and significant interest from at least one and perhaps other teams in acquiring Albert.”
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Interesting.
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They get away with their model because they have great coaching and win. They get good players to take discounts. The only other team in sports that does that to my knowledge is the Spurs. Cleveland and SF had a shit load of cap space and couldn't buy free agents last year. Sometimes money isn't enough. When we start turning Donnel, Flowers, Hart, Tye, Vereen, Jerry, Newhouse, Bromley, etc. into legitimate NFL starters then we can start talking about handling business like Belichick. Only then can we start swinging our dicks around. Until then, lets live in reality.
So no one can say a transaction is similar to one Belichick would make?
got it.
Not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is that Bekichick shouldn't be the guy we compare every possible decision to. All I keep reading on here are things like Belichick would let JPP go. This move would be a move that Belichick would make. Belichick is not perfect with his moves. He isn't perfect with his trades, acquisitions, draft picks, etc. I think everybody and their mother would like to get discounts on players in FA but that almost never happens in sports.
he really only gets a discount on Brady IMO and I think that's the next Patriots scandal, TB12, not sure, but I don't think anyone else gives him a significant discount. He lost Welker because of $$.
McCourty reportedly took less to remain in NE, but Mara refuted that, said the offer was similar and McCourty said himself after receiving the Giants and Eagles offers, he went back to NE and said "here is what I need to stay" and the Patriots agreed.
I don't think they get a discount on anyone else.
It guarantees you the player. If he's a FA, you're competing against other teams.
Excellent analysis. But I'd still probably keep him because it's a passing league, and a third corner of his quality is so valuable. We also have nobody to replace him. A rookie won't meet his performance in the first year in all likelihood, and the team is build to win now.
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Who else do you think they get a discount on?
thanks, good read, there are very few examples in here of players taking less to stay in NE.
They say Edelman, but Edelman was extended before the 2014 season. he had one good season under his belt and no Super Bowls, so it rings a little hollow when your examples are stretches.
Chris Long and Lagarette Blount are their examples besides Brady, who I believe has extenuating circumstances and players like Long and Blount are coaching creations, not discounts.
You saw this in the SB. Blount fumbled, he barely saw the field and out of no where James White becomes a star.
I agree with you people shouldn't compare their teams to Belichick, but not because of discounts players take to go there, but because no one coaches up players or prepares like they do in New England.
They don't overpay I agree 100% with, it explains (partly) why there is no Chandler Jones in NE, no Jamie Collins NE.
Guys they knew were going to get a ton of money and they could replace.
They can get away with it though because they can coach up the next guy or find cast-offs like Chris Long and Jabal Sheard and maximize their production. Belichick turned UDFA Malcolm Butler into Darelle Revis light.
So, IMO, because they can coach up the players they need to they can get away with not overpaying anyone.
I think their coaching/system prowess allows them to dictate the roster and personnel decisions.
Not many teams can get away with that.
Can't wait to see their Donta Hightower offer. I bet they franchise tag him.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
So DRC will command more than Joe Thomas?
Heard it here first, folks.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
Lol this comment shows you didnt read the thread. Thats simply not true
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Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald, Albert has been told he’ll be cut, but as of the end of the day on Thursday he remains on the roster.
Per Salguero, “there is sudden and significant interest from at least one and perhaps other teams in acquiring Albert.”
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you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
Lol this comment shows you didnt read the thread. Thats simply not true
NO, I did not read through the entire thread. I dont have time for that shit. I just responded to the initial thread post which said there was a rumor that DRC would be traded.
It would take a pick and a player to be palatable because DRC would have to be replaced -- most likely with a high draft pick.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
We did cut Cruz and Jennings so that's a start.
It opens up 5 million and it turns one of our older players into a younger cost controlled player.
That being said I'm a big DRC fan but from an asset management view would you be happy if we traded a 2nd rd pick for DRC? I wouldnt.
What are you talking about? You want to trade DRC for a second rounder?? What?? Stop.
No way he makes that deal.
But if I am making a trade, in a rather to very meh draft, especially for our #1 need of T, it'll be for a pick a lot closer to 33 than at 50 ish, not far from us,and not for DRC.
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you saw how vulnerable we were vs the Packers when he left the game. It changed everything.
If you want to mess with the defense, then be prepared to miss the playoffs next year. Our offense is at the bottom of the league and so far we have done nothing to improve it. The defense was the only reason why we had success this past season.
We did cut Cruz and Jennings so that's a start.
Matt... how exactly does cutting a player improve the play on the field?
DRC currently has a cap value of $8.5m. If we were to trade him, we would have $4m in dead money and also get $4.5 in additional cap room to address other needs. From a playing time point of view.
As far as replacing DRC does, we have Jenkins and Apple (who is likely to keep getting better). We would need a third CB, but there are solid options in free agency plus there will likely be very good talent available in the draft who we could develop.
The real question is what would we be offered in return? Some combination of draft picks would be a viable option
Some have mentioned a possible trade for Jarvis Landry. Landry is in the final year of his rookie deal. He is going to need to be paid next year. Depending how he fits into new coach Adam Gase’s long term plans, Landry could potentially be available.
We are also going to need a wide receiver to replace Cruz and upgrade our receiving group. Landry is more of a short-mid range threat with dangerous YAC ability. I expect a case could be made that this could be an option for McAdoo’s west coast offence, particularly if it allowed Beckham to be more of a vertical threat.
After a trade, the last year of Landry’s rookie contract would have a cap impact of $893,852 with no guaranteed money. Which would mean we would also gain a little over $3.5m in cap room.
I am not suggesting that we should or should not trade DRC. On the surface it seems like it could be a viable option.
Draft one early w an extra pick hat they get for him. Keeps the cap low for harder to find positions that they have to upgrade via FA long term.
I think If you have to manage a guys snap to keep him healthy it's. It a dumb idea to read him if you get value. Giants need to re up JPP. I trust them to find another CB a lot more than to find another DE
2 years of DRC or 3-4 years of Joe Thomas?