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Strength of schedule rankings out. Giants tied for 8th

Victor in CT : 2/17/2017 8:58 am
T-8. New York Giants: 135-117-4, .535.

Pats 12th

per cbssports.com
2017 NFL strength of schedule: Colts have it easiest, Broncos face a slate of doom - ( New Window )
I always think it would ne interesting  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2017 9:02 am : link
to see these before the season and then again after and see how true it was.

For example, teams with Carolina on their schedule in August 2016 had a high SOS weight for that game, but Carolina sucked so it over estimated their SOS.

Teams with Oakland didn't have a high SOS, but Oakland was good so it underestimated their SOS.

Anyway, my point is I'm not sure pre-season SOS means much, at the end looking back it might though.
NFC East and AFC West  
PEEJ : 2/17/2017 9:08 am : link
both had two playoff teams. Stands to reason that both divisions would have strong SOS.
In my opinion  
Chris684 : 2/17/2017 9:11 am : link
it's never as easy as just using SOS either.

I believe it's not always who you play but when you play them.

Green Bay was a different team in the 2nd half of the season than they were in the first.

Minnesota, same thing.

There is also the difference home and away.

New Orleans is the best example of this over a longer period of time. Detroit was a great example this season. Tough at their place. Nothing to worry about when they are on the road.
RE: I always think it would ne interesting  
The_Boss : 2/17/2017 9:12 am : link
In comment 13363984 pjcas18 said:
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to see these before the season and then again after and see how true it was.

For example, teams with Carolina on their schedule in August 2016 had a high SOS weight for that game, but Carolina sucked so it over estimated their SOS.

Teams with Oakland didn't have a high SOS, but Oakland was good so it underestimated their SOS.

Anyway, my point is I'm not sure pre-season SOS means much, at the end looking back it might though.


It was pretty true this past season. Of the 6 teams with the easiest SOS, 5 made the playoffs. The NYG and Cowboys were 2 of them. The Bears were the exception.
RE: RE: I always think it would ne interesting  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2017 9:18 am : link
In comment 13363999 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13363984 pjcas18 said:


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to see these before the season and then again after and see how true it was.

For example, teams with Carolina on their schedule in August 2016 had a high SOS weight for that game, but Carolina sucked so it over estimated their SOS.

Teams with Oakland didn't have a high SOS, but Oakland was good so it underestimated their SOS.

Anyway, my point is I'm not sure pre-season SOS means much, at the end looking back it might though.



It was pretty true this past season. Of the 6 teams with the easiest SOS, 5 made the playoffs. The NYG and Cowboys were 2 of them. The Bears were the exception.


But Atlanta had the hardest schedule coming in to 2016 and they went to the Super Bowl.

Patriots had the 9th hardest (so much for a cakewalk AFC East) and they won the SB.

two of the top 10 hardest schedules were in the SB.

6 of the 12 playoff teams came from the top half of the SOS (in terms of hardest to easiest).

My point was how would it look if in January they redid it, based on win %, etc. put out what the SOS really looked like. Pretty sure Atlanta wouldn't have the hardest schedule when they looked back on it if you know what I mean.
2016 SOS in April 2016 - ( New Window )
The whole NFC East is bunched fairly close together  
Beer Man : 2/17/2017 9:24 am : link
So each team is facing similar challenges to winning the conference. Where it hurts, is if your second in the East and trying to get a wild card spot.
I don't pay any attention to it; never will, with the one  
Big Blue '56 : 2/17/2017 9:27 am : link
exception. There are teams that are traditionally very difficult to beat in their house, so it's important, for example to get Seattle in NY, imv..Perhaps that's not SOS per se, but beating Seattle in your place must play some kind of role in this, yes?
RE: I don't pay any attention to it; never will, with the one  
mrvax : 2/17/2017 10:33 am : link
In comment 13364023 Big Blue '56 said:
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exception. There are teams that are traditionally very difficult to beat in their house, so it's important, for example to get Seattle in NY, imv..Perhaps that's not SOS per se, but beating Seattle in your place must play some kind of role in this, yes?


I agree. Also remember most NFL teams have a 20-25% roster turnover from one year to the next.

I'd guess that over many many games, SOS would show to be statistically true (that it is a valid factor, however minor).
Strength of Schedule  
RetroJint : 2/17/2017 2:23 pm : link
is kind of like playing Strat-O-Matc Baseballl in the 70s. The problem with the game is you replayed the previous season. I mean if you have the Browns and Rams, you have a pretty good idea that you should win those. But how do you gauge the Chargers? Bosa might be a one-man wrecking ball against your statue-like QB and Rivers might throw for 400.

Form did hold up for the Giants last season. The marks played like marks but it doesn't always work that way.
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