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Giants Looking for OL Help?

TC : 2/17/2017 12:38 pm
Maybe it's as obvious as many BBI'er's think. I checked Walter Football's list of prospects with whom Giants have met, and over 40% of them are OL's.

The facts about this list are that it's almost certainly not inclusive and might be inaccurate regarding a meeting actually occurring. And from past history, the Giants not only meet with players about whom they have questions, as is often stated, but also with those without questionable issues.

Still, it's an interesting stat, and makes me wonder if the Giants' self-scouting at season's end worries them more than they might wish it to appear.


Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (SR)
Gehrig Dieter, WR, Alabama (EW)
Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia (SR)
Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (SR)
Dieugot Joseph, OT, Florida International (EW)
Kyle Kalis, G, Michigan (SR)
Obi Melifonwu, S, Connecticut (SR)
Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA (EW)
Taylor Moton, OT/G, Western Michigan (SR)
Antonio Pipkin, QB, Tiffin (SR)
Justin Senior, OT, Mississippi State (SR)
Tedric Thompson, S, Colorado (EW)
Josh Tupou, DT, Colorado (EW)
Joseph Williams, RB, Utah (EW)


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I'm shocked, SHOCKED  
Victor in CT : 2/17/2017 12:43 pm : link
why would they look for OL help? :-)
I'm no Sy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/17/2017 12:45 pm : link
But it wouldn't surprise me to learn that lots of teams have more questions than answers about this year's crop of offensive linemen. I've heard it said it's not a great year for them.
Moton  
ryanmkeane : 2/17/2017 12:53 pm : link
is a plug and play guy day 1. He'd be great in the 2nd.
Remember guys they meet with  
BillT : 2/17/2017 12:57 pm : link
Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in. They are guys they need to know more about.
RE: Remember guys they meet with  
TC : 2/17/2017 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13364298 BillT said:
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Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in. They are guys they need to know more about.

If they're not interested in them, why do they want to know more about them?
Moton  
Mark from Jersey : 2/17/2017 1:15 pm : link
At RG and EF at RT some beef that could move people.
RE: RE: Remember guys they meet with  
BillT : 2/17/2017 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13364316 TC said:
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In comment 13364298 BillT said:


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Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in. They are guys they need to know more about.


If they're not interested in them, why do they want to know more about them?

I didn't say they weren't interested in them. Is English a second language for you?
Outside of Moton, most of those guys are 3rd day prospects  
njm : 2/17/2017 1:34 pm : link
Perhaps the scouting reports on them are a little thin and they took advantage of the opportunity to sit down with them.
RE: RE: RE: Remember guys they meet with  
TC : 2/17/2017 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13364325 BillT said:
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In comment 13364316 TC said:


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In comment 13364298 BillT said:


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Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in. They are guys they need to know more about.


If they're not interested in them, why do they want to know more about them?


I didn't say they weren't interested in them. Is English a second language for you?

No, but could you answer the question?

If the Giants are meeting with prospects that "Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in." what are they doing it for? Are they compiling a list of guys they aren't necessarily interested in, but about which there are entertaining facts? :-)
Antonio Garcia  
bigblue12 : 2/17/2017 1:40 pm : link
is a good player.
BillT: are you really POTUS?  
Ivan15 : 2/17/2017 1:44 pm : link
.
They meet with basically every single player  
Big Rick in FL : 2/17/2017 2:05 pm : link
At the Shrine game and Senior Bowl. Just a matter if the media sees it or not. Wouldn't look into it too much.
Remember the guys they meet with they aren't necessarily  
Patrick77 : 2/17/2017 2:18 pm : link
interested in...


That initial post and following exchange was priceless. Thank you.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Remember guys they meet with  
BillT : 2/17/2017 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13364346 TC said:
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In comment 13364325 BillT said:


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In comment 13364316 TC said:


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In comment 13364298 BillT said:


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Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in. They are guys they need to know more about.


If they're not interested in them, why do they want to know more about them?


I didn't say they weren't interested in them. Is English a second language for you?


No, but could you answer the question?

If the Giants are meeting with prospects that "Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in." what are they doing it for? Are they compiling a list of guys they aren't necessarily interested in, but about which there are entertaining facts? :-)

Maybe you could read all of what I wrote and then you wouldn't have to ask questions that are already answered.
RE: Antonio Garcia  
rasbutant : 2/17/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13364347 bigblue12 said:
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is a good player.


He does look good. Watched his game against Clemson and he did real well.

Actually kind of has a similar playing style as Andrew Whitworth does.
RE: RE: Remember guys they meet with  
Klaatu : 2/17/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13364316 TC said:
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In comment 13364298 BillT said:


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Aren't necessarily guys they are interested in. They are guys they need to know more about.


If they're not interested in them, why do they want to know more about them?




'Curarosity,' mah man...like, 'curarosity.'
the point is that there are lots of guys that they don't meet with  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/17/2017 3:54 pm : link
because they have a good read on them. They often draft guys that they don't show up in these meetings lists because they don't have any questions about them based on everything the scouts do. They typically meet with guys they are uncertain about. So its not necessarily a sign of great interest in drafting the player so much as doing complete due diligence.
I always interview people I have no interest in  
Patrick77 : 2/17/2017 4:08 pm : link
When buying a vehicle I also spend days looking at cars I'm not interested in. Test drive the Toyota Matrix 67 times when I was looking for my next truck or SUV.

I am not interested in modern art so I spends my entire vacation every year touring art galleries.


So of course the Giants interview prospects they would never draft and aren't interested in. It makes perfect sense to spend valuable time and money getting details on people or subjects you know you have no interest in. That way you have no details on the things you are interested in - which is perfect!

Duh.
If you remember one name from this list it should be  
BLUATHRT : 2/17/2017 4:39 pm : link
Obi Melifonwu, S, Connecticut (SR).

The kid is going to be Cam Chancellor part duex, but with much more range. If the Giants draft him, watch what he does in the big nickle packages.
RE: the point is that there are lots of guys that they don't meet with  
TC : 2/17/2017 6:25 pm : link
In comment 13364509 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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because they have a good read on them. They often draft guys that they don't show up in these meetings lists because they don't have any questions about them based on everything the scouts do. They typically meet with guys they are uncertain about. So its not necessarily a sign of great interest in drafting the player so much as doing complete due diligence.


I agree entirely with your statement, but as other posters have said, there has to be some level of interest, for some reason, or they wouldn't be doing it. In some cases I'm sure it's to definitely rule OUT a prospect, in others, I wouldn't be surprised if they talk with a prospect as a courtesy to a professional colleague.
I am  
grizz299 : 2/17/2017 8:39 pm : link
dis-interested in this thread after that.
RE: Antonio Garcia  
Carson53 : 2/18/2017 9:05 am : link
In comment 13364347 bigblue12 said:
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is a good player.


Mayock had him rated as a top 5 tackle, and I respect Mayock's opinion more than a Daniel Jeremiah for sure!
RE: I always interview people I have no interest in  
mrvax : 2/18/2017 9:15 am : link
In comment 13364526 Patrick77 said:
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When buying a vehicle I also spend days looking at cars I'm not interested in. Test drive the Toyota Matrix 67 times when I was looking for my next truck or SUV.

I am not interested in modern art so I spends my entire vacation every year touring art galleries.


So of course the Giants interview prospects they would never draft and aren't interested in. It makes perfect sense to spend valuable time and money getting details on people or subjects you know you have no interest in. That way you have no details on the things you are interested in - which is perfect!

Duh.


Patrick77 is correct. Players the Giants have no interest in, get passed over. Unless you happen to be stupid, you do not interview or scout players you don't give a rat's ass about.
RE: RE: Antonio Garcia  
Klaatu : 2/18/2017 9:15 am : link
In comment 13364800 Carson53 said:
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is a good player.



Mayock had him rated as a top 5 tackle, and I respect Mayock's opinion more than a Daniel Jeremiah for sure!


I respect Mike Mayock, too, but let's not forget that in 2015 his #2-rated OT was Ereck Flowers (behind La'El Collins).
RE: Moton  
Optimus-NY : 2/18/2017 1:45 pm : link
In comment 13364296 ryanmkeane said:
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is a plug and play guy day 1. He'd be great in the 2nd.


I agree.
Ramcysk, Bolles and Lamp  
jeff57 : 2/18/2017 5:52 pm : link
are three I would certainly would consider at 23
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