It came up on the Yankees thread below but I didn't read the full transcript of the interview. Nobody epitomizes a "get off my lawn" type of guy quite like the Goose. Simmer down, grandpa.
and I can certainly understand his frustration. But you've got to know when to let it go, especially about a guy like Mo who is a beloved hero of the same franchise.
Goose has arrived at camp and made himself into a story. I don't want another Charles Oakley situation, but the Yankees should quietly and respectfully tell him that nobody gives a shit about his opinions.
I'm a Yankee fan and all, but that dude really seems like he twatted himself into the HOF. Same with Carson. I'm not saying deserving or undeserving, but they both sort of bitched and complained their way in.
I read the interview, thanks for posting. I don't understand Gooses animosity towards Mo but I certainly understand and support some of his other points. I'm tired of guys from the (bleeping) Ivy League too!
Seriously though, he's right about some of the things he said. The line at the end about Pudge is spot on. He's right about the steroid guys not belonging in the HOF. He's right that a lot managers today are ridiculous in their adherence to a strict pitch count.
As far as the sabermatics, and ironically, I wonder if there are any good numbers on the efficacy of running a baseball club strictly by the numbers?
He was merely saying that their roles were different...apples and oranges. And that's true, at least during the regular season more often than not. Mo would come in at times in big games in the middle of the 8th for a 5 out save, but generally came in for the 9th in those seasons when he was the closer and we had a top 8th inning man.
And baseball in general has changed, as Goose says. The pitch count for starters is one big change.
Gossage would simply keep saying don't compare me to Mo when Mo was hardly mentioned by the writer. Gossage would just interject that into his responses to other questions. I don't disagree with a lot of his points, but he comes across as batshit crazy.
He was merely saying that their roles were different...apples and oranges. And that's true, at least during the regular season more often than not. Mo would come in at times in big games in the middle of the 8th for a 5 out save, but generally came in for the 9th in those seasons when he was the closer and we had a top 8th inning man.
And baseball in general has changed, as Goose says. The pitch count for starters is one big change.
He said he was insulted by the idea of being compared to Mo.... Not a slam?!
Yeah, saying he's insulted by the comparison is a slam.
had very different and more difficult roles. But, the last person to question is Mo. Not only was he the most dominant guy I've ever seen, but he was consistently dominant and then even more dominant in the post season for mostly more than 1 inning saves.
And I tell my son and anyone on his team that wants to pitch
to go watch Mo before they watch any other pitcher because he easily has the best mechanics I've ever seen. It is the main reason he was able to pitch as well as he did for so many years.
Yes, now that I read the actual interview I can see that's what happened. I must have missed when Ralphie V started covering baseball.
But at the same time, Mariano was an exception to the rule because he went from "Regular Season Closer" to "Post-Season Fireman" on a regular basis.
Post-Season Career
Gossage: 19 Games -- 31.1 IP -- 10 Earned Runs
Mariano: 96 Games -- 141.0 IP -- 11 Earned Runs
That's 1.65 Innings per appearance by Gossage, and 1.47 Innings per appearance by Rivera.
They had the same role in the post-season and Mariano gave up 1 more earned run in 110 more innings.
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File this one under "Old athlete pissed at the amount of money that current athletes make"
Seriously though, he's right about some of the things he said. The line at the end about Pudge is spot on. He's right about the steroid guys not belonging in the HOF. He's right that a lot managers today are ridiculous in their adherence to a strict pitch count.
As far as the sabermatics, and ironically, I wonder if there are any good numbers on the efficacy of running a baseball club strictly by the numbers?
And baseball in general has changed, as Goose says. The pitch count for starters is one big change.
I remember Goose's days fondly but to me there's no comparison between the two. Rivera was the far superior pitcher.
And baseball in general has changed, as Goose says. The pitch count for starters is one big change.
He said he was insulted by the idea of being compared to Mo.... Not a slam?!
But at the same time, Mariano was an exception to the rule because he went from "Regular Season Closer" to "Post-Season Fireman" on a regular basis.
Post-Season Career
Gossage: 19 Games -- 31.1 IP -- 10 Earned Runs
Mariano: 96 Games -- 141.0 IP -- 11 Earned Runs
That's 1.65 Innings per appearance by Gossage, and 1.47 Innings per appearance by Rivera.
They had the same role in the post-season and Mariano gave up 1 more earned run in 110 more innings.
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File this one under "Old athlete pissed at the amount of money that current athletes make"
Thread over. Drop mic.
easy clicks for media or a deranged jealous man?