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NFT: Arizona to its death row inmates: BYOD

spike : 2/17/2017 5:07 pm
"PHOENIX (AP) — The recent revelation that condemned prisoners in Arizona can now provide the lethal drugs to be used in their executions has received attention around the world and raised questions about the state's rules for the death penalty.

The novel policy has drawn sneers from defense attorneys who were puzzled as to why the state would think that they would assist in killing their clients. It has inspired wisecracks about Arizona's penchant for taking on envelope-pushing criminal justice policies and left some readers on social media asking whether the bring-your-own-drugs policy was actually the product of a news parody website.

Criminal defense lawyers and death penalty experts say they have never heard of a state suggesting that condemned inmates can line up drugs to be used in their executions.

However unlikely it is that any of Arizona's 119 death-row inmates will take up the offer, the change is a reflection of the difficulties that Arizona, like other states, faces in finding execution drugs now that European pharmaceutical companies have blocked the use of their products for lethal injections.

Executions in Arizona have been on hold since the 2014 death of convicted killer Joseph Rudolph Wood, who was given 15 doses of the sedative midazolam and a painkiller and who took nearly two hours to die. The state will not be able to carry out executions until the resolution of a lawsuit that alleges Arizona has abused its discretion in the methods and amounts of drugs used in past execution"



Arizona is the new Florida - ( New Window )
I think this thread is on death row  
njm : 2/17/2017 5:21 pm : link
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spike : 2/17/2017 5:23 pm : link
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I don't see it posted anywhere.
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njm : 2/17/2017 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13364590 spike said:
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I don't see it posted anywhere.


Perhaps you miss my drift.
Dont kill the messenger  
Taggart : 2/17/2017 5:38 pm : link
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Don't understand why they couldn't just use  
shelovesnycsports : 2/17/2017 5:38 pm : link
Fentanyl. We have had more ODs on that stuff last year than I can ever remember on anything else.
Don't they have drugs  
GmeninPSL : 2/17/2017 5:48 pm : link
for assisted suicide patients who are terminally ill? Not that some of these sub humans deserve to die with dignity for some of the crimes they have committed. Slow death is what some of these inmates deserve, like the kind they bought on to their victims!!!
Guilletines  
spike : 2/17/2017 5:53 pm : link
are cheap and painless.
RE: Guilletines  
spike : 2/17/2017 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13364613 spike said:
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are cheap and painless.

guillotine
I could never understand why they have  
shelovesnycsports : 2/17/2017 5:54 pm : link
to use drugs? Why not just lower them in a tank of water.
Not a painfully way to go in the least. I wouldn't think it falls under Cruel and unusual treatment.
Hand it over  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/17/2017 5:55 pm : link
RE: I could never understand why they have  
Danny Kanell : 2/17/2017 6:26 pm : link
In comment 13364616 shelovesnycsports said:
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to use drugs? Why not just lower them in a tank of water.
Not a painfully way to go in the least. I wouldn't think it falls under Cruel and unusual treatment.


That's one of the worst imaginable ways to die.

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shelovesnycsports : 2/17/2017 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13364629 Danny Kanell said:
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to use drugs? Why not just lower them in a tank of water.
Not a painfully way to go in the least. I wouldn't think it falls under Cruel and unusual treatment.



That's one of the worst imaginable ways to die.
Huh worse than Fire? Electricity? A Bullet ripping though you? Falling a great distance? Hanging?
Dismemberment? Gas Chamber? Wouldn't it be a lot like the Gas Chamber?
Other than a natural death of old age I think drowning would be the least painful way to go.
Most Americans  
rebel yell : 2/17/2017 7:10 pm : link
cringe at decapitation, but done in a swift and surgical manner, it is considered relatively painless. Consciousness is believed to continue after the spinal chord is severed, but a study in rats in 1991 found that it takes 2.7 seconds for the brain to consume the oxygen from the blood in the head; the equivalent figure for humans has been calculated at 7 seconds.
RE: Most Americans  
shelovesnycsports : 2/17/2017 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13364646 rebel yell said:
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cringe at decapitation, but done in a swift and surgical manner, it is considered relatively painless. Consciousness is believed to continue after the spinal chord is severed, but a study in rats in 1991 found that it takes 2.7 seconds for the brain to consume the oxygen from the blood in the head; the equivalent figure for humans has been calculated at 7 seconds.


So you want to go all Game of Thrones? That't more civil than a Water tank?
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Deej : 2/17/2017 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13364614 spike said:
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are cheap and painless.


guillotine


Guillaume

The legal strategy on this...  
Dunedin81 : 2/17/2017 7:54 pm : link
Which is, predictably, an end run around convincing people to vote down the death penalty, has been to preclude almost every means of execution, including every cocktail of drugs, and then turn around and claim that the limited use of the death penalty (because it is so effing difficult to impose it) has rendered it unusual and thus an Eighth Amendment violation.
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rebel yell : 2/17/2017 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13364648 shelovesnycsports said:
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cringe at decapitation, but done in a swift and surgical manner, it is considered relatively painless. Consciousness is believed to continue after the spinal chord is severed, but a study in rats in 1991 found that it takes 2.7 seconds for the brain to consume the oxygen from the blood in the head; the equivalent figure for humans has been calculated at 7 seconds.



So you want to go all Game of Thrones? That't more civil than a Water tank?

Ha! Another brilliant and astute BBI observation. No dumb ass, did I ever intone that in my comments? I don't think so. I was simply stating biological information. "If" I were to condone capital punishment, I'd recommend we stick with lethal injection.
easy  
spike : 2/17/2017 8:28 pm : link
just a loaded gun and an endless marathon of Keeping Up with the Kardashians
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