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NFT: NCAABB: President's Day Weekend Slate

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/18/2017 10:41 am
Interesting weekend of games starts today, highlighted by #3 Kansas @ #4 Baylor at 1 on CBS and slumping #12 UVA at #10 UNC. Michigan State at Purdue is a big game at the top of the Big 10.

Some chances for bubble teams to really solidify their spots: Va Tech at Louisville or Houston hosting SMU.

For the NY/NJ locals, Nova visits Seton Hall today and a big game in the NEC at Hackensack, Mount St. Mary's comes to Fairleigh Ridiculous.

Enjoy!
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Seton Hall always plays us tough at The Rock.  
Crispino : 2/18/2017 12:10 pm : link
We put a 30 point beating on them last meeting, and they will be fired up to get revenge. Should be the biggest crowd ever for Seton Hall game in Newark. 'Nova will be without Darryl Reynolds today, and so down to a six man rotation. Add it all up and it shakes out to a 10 point win for 'Nova. 😀
Heels  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/18/2017 12:22 pm : link
UVA tonight. That should be a good one.
RE: Seton Hall always plays us tough at The Rock.  
The_Boss : 2/18/2017 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13364911 Crispino said:
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We put a 30 point beating on them last meeting, and they will be fired up to get revenge. Should be the biggest crowd ever for Seton Hall game in Newark. 'Nova will be without Darryl Reynolds today, and so down to a six man rotation. Add it all up and it shakes out to a 10 point win for 'Nova. 😀


No Reynolds again? That's 3 games now, no? It's tough to get back to a Final Four only playing 7. Just getting there with this team playing 7 all year might be the best coaching job of Wright's run here.
The start of a bunch of great games over the next couple of weekends..  
Britt in VA : 2/18/2017 12:36 pm : link
I got to see my VCU Rams demolish the Richmond Spiders last night in person at the Robins Center.

RAMS RUN RICHMOND!
Anyone see Jalen Brunson's performance for 'Nova today?  
Crispino : 2/18/2017 2:58 pm : link
He did something that hasn't been done in the last 20 years. He had 22 points and 10 assists. And did it without missing a shot. Perfect from the field, and the foul line. For good measure, he had 4 rebounds. Unreal. And Kris Jenkins was Kris Jenkins for the first time in weeks, 8-10 from the field including 5-6 from 3.
Come on: We're talkin' PRESIDENTS Day!  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/18/2017 3:05 pm : link
George Washington faces Duquesne tomorrow at Noon.
RE: Anyone see Jalen Brunson's performance for 'Nova today?  
The_Boss : 2/18/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13364964 Crispino said:
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He did something that hasn't been done in the last 20 years. He had 22 points and 10 assists. And did it without missing a shot. Perfect from the field, and the foul line. For good measure, he had 4 rebounds. Unreal. And Kris Jenkins was Kris Jenkins for the first time in weeks, 8-10 from the field including 5-6 from 3.


Brunson might have to make a business decision at the end of the year.
To be clear, Brunson's rare feat is a double double...  
Crispino : 2/18/2017 3:09 pm : link
where the points are at least 20 with no misses from the field.
Boss, I still think he needs to stay at least another year.  
Crispino : 2/18/2017 3:12 pm : link
I'm not sure he has NBA quickness yet. I think he'd have a tough time guarding NBA guards. But man, he is terrific.
Tomorrow big game  
LCtheINTMachine : 2/18/2017 3:21 pm : link
For the Cuse at Georgia Tech. We are very much on the bubble and have Tech, Duke and a rematch with the Ville in our next three. We need two wins - especially at the Dome against Coach K, punkass Allen and Puke.
Frank Mason for Wooden award  
giantsfan44ab : 2/18/2017 4:21 pm : link
Josh Jackson FOTY
Kansas - Baylor was some game  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/18/2017 4:25 pm : link
Drew may end up being national coach of the year, but Self got him down the stretch. Baylor's problem is that they don't really have that one-one guy they can go to down the stretch.
Pitt with the upset of the day  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/18/2017 6:32 pm : link
FSU just looked like it had no energy
RE: Frank Mason for Wooden award  
dep026 : 2/18/2017 6:43 pm : link
In comment 13364997 giantsfan44ab said:
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Josh Jackson FOTY


Hart or Mason is going to win it, but theres been no doubt that Ball has been the best player so far.
RE: Anyone see Jalen Brunson's performance for 'Nova today?  
dep026 : 2/18/2017 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13364964 Crispino said:
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He did something that hasn't been done in the last 20 years. He had 22 points and 10 assists. And did it without missing a shot. Perfect from the field, and the foul line. For good measure, he had 4 rebounds. Unreal. And Kris Jenkins was Kris Jenkins for the first time in weeks, 8-10 from the field including 5-6 from 3.


Brunson missed a free throw.
RE: Boss, I still think he needs to stay at least another year.  
The_Boss : 2/18/2017 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13364971 Crispino said:
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I'm not sure he has NBA quickness yet. I think he'd have a tough time guarding NBA guards. But man, he is terrific.


Being the selfish alum I am, I hope he stays. I'd love to see Spellman next year with a vet PG who has literally seen it all through (hopefully) 2 consecutive deep NCAA tourney runs. Today aside, I don't think his jumper is close to NBA ready. In the end, I'm sure he'll at the very least inquire with the draft committee to gauge his pro prospects like Hart and Big Smoove did last spring.
29 points in 32 minutes  
B in ALB : 2/18/2017 9:49 pm : link
For Virginia. Ugly.

Wow.
UVA  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/18/2017 11:06 pm : link
Dreadful.
dep, you're right about the missed FT for Brunson.  
Crispino : 2/18/2017 11:37 pm : link
I read that stat wrong, thinking he was 2 for 2, but that was from 3. The rare feat isn't affected by that miss from the line. It's 20 /10 no misses from the field. Good catch though.
MD -Wisc  
Pete in MD : 2/19/2017 2:53 pm : link
one of the worst officiated games I've watched in a while.
RE: MD -Wisc  
Jon in NYC : 2/19/2017 3:51 pm : link
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one of the worst officiated games I've watched in a while.


I made the trip back for the game. It was absolutely awful. Even badger fans were upset when the calls went against Maryland at some point. Just let em play.

Also, absolutely brutal job by Turgeron. Got a T when the game was close and had to rest Trimble for the last 5 minutes cause he was winded. That's awful awful work by him.
RE: RE: MD -Wisc  
Pete in MD : 2/19/2017 4:44 pm : link
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one of the worst officiated games I've watched in a while.



I made the trip back for the game. It was absolutely awful. Even badger fans were upset when the calls went against Maryland at some point. Just let em play.

Also, absolutely brutal job by Turgeron. Got a T when the game was close and had to rest Trimble for the last 5 minutes cause he was winded. That's awful awful work by him.

Turg has many issues as an in-game coach. He has no feel for when to take a TO to break the other team's momentum and his substitution patterns are all over the place. That technical was very out of character for him. He usually gets accused of not being emotional enough.
RE: RE: MD -Wisc  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/19/2017 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13365336 Jon in NYC said:
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one of the worst officiated games I've watched in a while.



I made the trip back for the game. It was absolutely awful. Even badger fans were upset when the calls went against Maryland at some point. Just let em play.

Also, absolutely brutal job by Turgeron. Got a T when the game was close and had to rest Trimble for the last 5 minutes cause he was winded. That's awful awful work by him.


Do you really want to get me started? I guess those refs were ready for their close-up on national TV. Wisconsin had 27 points in the first half - TWENTY BY FREE THROW. They shot 37 for the game. But the game went pretty much according to a script I feared. Wisconsin was going to be physical and just plain wanted it more - no shame in losing this one ut highlights the lack of a post presence.

Turgeon has a lot of faults as a coach - I mean a lot - but making the tournament with this team is a real accomplishment and he's had three good seasons in a row now.
I'd take Turgeon over  
giantsfan44ab : 2/19/2017 8:09 pm : link
all but 2-3 Big 10 coaches, if that. He has freshmen playing good team defense. I only wish crean could do the same. More impressive that he's doing this minus layman and Trimble pretty much regressing since his freshman year. I really though Trimble would be much, much better. I guess the one positive is that he's probably killed any NBA draft stock he might've had so he's gonna be back for a senior season with the 3 freshmen staying at least another year.
I just reached ACC refs give a  
B in ALB : 2/19/2017 8:30 pm : link
game to Georgia Tech. Absolutely unreal. Officiating in this league is horrific and embarrassing. The best conference in college basketball had the worst refs. Awesome.
Reached = watched  
B in ALB : 2/19/2017 8:31 pm : link
Fuck you phone.
RE: I just reached ACC refs give a  
dep026 : 2/19/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13365443 B in ALB said:
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game to Georgia Tech. Absolutely unreal. Officiating in this league is horrific and embarrassing. The best conference in college basketball had the worst refs. Awesome.


That was highway robbery.
RE: I just reached ACC refs give a  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/19/2017 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13365443 B in ALB said:
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game to Georgia Tech. Absolutely unreal. Officiating in this league is horrific and embarrassing. The best conference in college basketball had the worst refs. Awesome.


It's across the country, because the Big 10 ones are just as bad. I just saw Tough Guy Teddy Valentine call a technical on the Michigan bench from across the court in a close game when they reacted to a bad call. Beilein doesn't go nuts too often, this was one of those times.
Just heard that the Terps Cekovsky...  
tony stg : 2/20/2017 5:06 pm : link
... broke his ankle during Sunday's game. Significant blow to the Terps front line. Dang.

Link...  
tony stg : 2/20/2017 5:08 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
RE: Just heard that the Terps Cekovsky...  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/20/2017 5:28 pm : link
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... broke his ankle during Sunday's game. Significant blow to the Terps front line. Dang.


Poor kid can't catch a break - no pun intended.
Two HORRENDOUS calls in favor of Virginia  
B in ALB : 2/20/2017 8:54 pm : link
In the last 40 seconds tonight. Absolutely pathetic.
Crazy.  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2017 8:56 pm : link
Tie game. 4 seconds left.
OH MY FUCKING GOD!  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2017 8:57 pm : link
!
He didn't get it off.  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2017 8:57 pm : link
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That one ref GAVE Virginia overtime  
B in ALB : 2/20/2017 8:58 pm : link
Two awful calls in a row. Ridiculous.
RE: Two HORRENDOUS calls in favor of Virginia  
MookGiants : 2/20/2017 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13366070 B in ALB said:
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In the last 40 seconds tonight. Absolutely pathetic.


I know Virginia fans like the fact that they have been winning in the regular season under Bennett, but I would have a real hard time if I were a fan of this team watching them play every night. It's just plain old boring basketball. And this style he plays will never get to a final four, never mind win a title.

I was at the game on Saturday at UNC and watching them play offense is painful.
They make Wisconsin  
B in ALB : 2/20/2017 9:04 pm : link
Look dynamic.
WOW!  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2017 9:12 pm : link
what a 3 by that freshman!
RE: WOW!  
giantsfan44ab : 2/20/2017 9:23 pm : link
In comment 13366081 Britt in VA said:
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what a 3 by that freshman!


He has a name. It's Future Knick Bruce Brown.
Now, Shaka's scrappy Texas team giving WVU a game.  
Britt in VA : 2/20/2017 9:25 pm : link
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RE: RE: Two HORRENDOUS calls in favor of Virginia  
giantsfan44ab : 2/20/2017 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13366077 MookGiants said:
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In the last 40 seconds tonight. Absolutely pathetic.



I know Virginia fans like the fact that they have been winning in the regular season under Bennett, but I would have a real hard time if I were a fan of this team watching them play every night. It's just plain old boring basketball. And this style he plays will never get to a final four, never mind win a title.

I was at the game on Saturday at UNC and watching them play offense is painful.


Pretty much.
RE: Two HORRENDOUS calls in favor of Virginia  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/20/2017 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13366070 B in ALB said:
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In the last 40 seconds tonight. Absolutely pathetic.


The refs should've counted the not-quite buzzer beater based on the shitty calls they made against Miami down the stretch. That baseline ref shouldn't see an ACC tournament game.

If you can guard Parrentes, UVA has nothing. You can't play into OT and have less that 50 points.
I love watching Virginia play defense  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/21/2017 7:59 am : link
great positioning, intelligence, and effort. Typically, their offense is efficient, constantly in motion, and looking for great shots.

Unfortunately, right now the offense is completely broken. With what we graduated, I knew this season would be a test. I was also looking fo seeing Austin Nichols in the system who would have been the highest-rated recruit on paper that Bennett had gotten at UVA. And with two years of eligibility left, he was going to be our anchor inside on both the defensive and offensive ends.

More importantly, after graduating Gill and Tobey, we relied on Nichols because he was going to be our only legitimate interior offensive threat. But Bennett kicked him off the team after one game for drugs, apparently. I applaud Bennett for sticking to his principles (Nichols is still enrolled in classes), but it also meant that this season had a lower ceiling than in previous seasons.

So now we have absolutely no inside game and every team is starting to realize that and know that if you extend your defense and chase our guards off the perimeter, we can be contained rather easily. We still move well without the ball, but we can't play any type of inside-outside game, and we lack the speedy guards that are great at getting to the rim. We are also terrible at drawing fouls, so we have become completely one-dimensional on offense.

Virginia's offense reminds me very much this season of the Giants offense. Defenses can play the same away against us (cover 2) because they know that we can't run the ball or throw to tight ends over the middle, and so defenses will keep playing that way and the offense will continue to stall all season.

In the last two weeks our offense went from the 3rd most efficient per KenPom to the 39th. But the defense is still #1. If the offense can figure out something new and get back into being one of the best three-point shooting teams in the country, the season is far from over.
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That said, the idea that UVA will never get to a Final Four under Bennett because of his system is stupid. They've been one of the most consistent winners over the last 3-4 years, and they were a terrible collapse (with some brutal no calls against Tobey when we busted Cuse's press) and Malachi Richardson pulling a horseshoe out of his ass in the second half from being in the Final Four last season.

Mook  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/21/2017 8:03 am : link
that UNC game was brutal to watch. We were one of the best 3-point shooting teams in the country and we went 0 for our first 15 from 3. We couldn't hit anything. UNC played great defense on us and kept us out of sync, but we also just couldn't hit water from a boat when we had open looks. That was the worst offensive performance I've seen us have in four years. And then last night happened, and it was just as ugly.

Much of the season, the offense was working great. But like I said, teams have figured out how to shut us own and we haven't figured out our next move to beat it. Sometimes, though, bad shooting is just a matter of a team pressing during a really tough stretch.
Paul  
MookGiants : 2/21/2017 1:50 pm : link
I think playing 4 games in 8 days caught up to then last night too, all 4 against tournament teams.

Saturday they definitely missed open shots. That guy kid the freshman could not throw the ball in the ocean, every time he came in he was shooting and missing.

I also think Benetts style catches up with teams sometimes at the end kf the year. It has to be exhausting to play grind it out games all year
RE: Two HORRENDOUS calls in favor of Virginia  
Greg from LI : 2/21/2017 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13366070 B in ALB said:
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In the last 40 seconds tonight. Absolutely pathetic.


Given how consistently we've been fucked over by ACC refs over the past two decades, forgive me if I don't give a flying fuck. Didn't matter anyway.
It's been a brutal stretch.  
Britt in VA : 2/21/2017 1:59 pm : link
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Right now, the inability to score has become a mental block  
Greg from LI : 2/21/2017 2:00 pm : link
You can see it. Guys like Devon Hall who were shooting well for most of the season suddenly can't hit free throws, let alone open shots. Maybe they snap out of it, maybe they don't. Once Nichols was tossed from the team, this was always going to be an uphill battle kind of season, particularly since they lost three of their four leading scorers from last year.

Perrentes can't carry a team. He's a great complimentary player, but he can't create his own shots. We have zero inside game - Salt has no offensive skills, Diakite is too skinny to play the post, Wilkins is too small - and we don't have guards who can finish at the rim. Hall and Shayok can get to the rim but have a bizarrely difficult time converting layups.

Probably ends up being a rebuilding year. Guy and Jerome are struggling like everyone else right now, but they've both shown flashes on offense and I'll be interested to see Huff and Hunter next year add some size and scoring ability.
They really played well to be positioned as they were....  
Britt in VA : 2/21/2017 2:01 pm : link
up to this most recent stretch, all things considered.
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