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pganut : 2/18/2017 10:49 am
Hard to believe this is the first game of the season where these two teams square off. Regardless, they'll be tired of each other since tonight is the front end of a back to back with tomorrow's tilt at at Barclays.

Isles lineups to be announced later; Devils will have Cory Schneider in net tonight. Remains to be seen if Cal Clutterbuck is healthy enough to rejoin the Isles for this one.

Hoping the Isles proximity to home yields results. After tomorrow, 18 of their final 26 games will be on the road. Get an early start on that tonight. Dougie's thoughts:
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"On the road, we’re going to play some good teams,’’ Weight said. “We know we have a huge test in front of us. We’ve got to bring our ‘A’ game and find a way to compete at the same level we do at home, and I’m confident we will.’’


As some of you noted already, BPT keeps rolling along with their 8th win in a row (and Halak's 11th win in a row) by beating Rochester, 5-2. MDC with a goal and 2 assists, Ho-Sang with a goal and 3 assists. Mathew Barzal continues his roll (sorry, I don't get tired of hearing that) with another 2 assists in a 4-2 loss yesterday. He has an 8 game scoring streak and now has 23 points over that 8-game stretch. He sits at 8-52-60 in 32 games played.

A good video segment from NHLN yesterday that featured Zeeker and Gionta. A fun watch (but man, they need to learn their Islanders history better): Cizikas & Gionta on NHL Now

And for hockey fans in general (with Isles ties through Brock Nelson), NBCSN has a cool special tomorrow about the hockey town that is Warroad, MN, and all the great hockey names and tradition that came from there (the Christian brothers, TJ Oshie, others). That's at 12pm tomorrow and here's the teaser link: The Road Through Warroad

Since November 23, Anders Lee is tied with Auston Matthews for most goals in that timeframe with 21, trailing only Max Pacioretty's 24. Josh Bailey's next goal ties him with Eddie Westfall and Benoit Hogue for 26th on the Isles all-time list. With Bailey's next point, he'll tie Alexei Yashin for 22nd on the Isles all-time points list.

Let's Go Islanders
I hope Bailey pushes  
JayBinQueens : 2/18/2017 11:22 am : link
Yashin further down that list tonight.

Was looking at tickets for tonight, are Devils tickets usually that pricey or is it the Islanders in town (who knew we could draw?)
It's a Sat Night Game in February  
Sammo85 : 2/18/2017 11:34 am : link
Very little else to do and Isles always show up well with fans in NJ. Good fans too. I'm a Devils fan.

I'll be at game tonight with family and an Isles fan among them.

Devils are riding out the string. As long as we get another high pick this year I'm fine and Shero continues reshaping the roster trough some savvy trades.

Zacha is showing some slow development already which is great after a rough start. Palmieri has turned it on after a rough start too. Cammalleri looks like he's declining steadily and that's a concern with 2 yrs left on his deal. Still have some work to do and in thinking about center and forward group over next few years at forward as Zajac is in his 30s now too. This offseason they need to add an PP QB offensive defenseman and top 6 winger to take pressure off Hall.

Key in near future is having guys like McLeod and Quenneville become solid young forwards over next few years. Wood and Speers are talented but are projects with question marks.
RE: It's a Sat Night Game in February  
JayBinQueens : 2/18/2017 11:40 am : link
In comment 13364893 Sammo85 said:
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This offseason they need to add an PP QB offensive defenseman and top 6 winger to take pressure off Hall.

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What have you thought of all so far? (Both being able to watch him as a player and his production)
*all = Hall  
JayBinQueens : 2/18/2017 11:40 am : link
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Hall  
Sammo85 : 2/18/2017 12:28 pm : link
He's got a great mix of speed, stickhandling and scoring touch. He plays physical too despite being a little shorter. I'm impressed but do have concern over how physical he tries to get when it's not needed and risks injury.

He needs linemates and a center who compliment his skill and can play uptempo. Palmieri and Zajac and even Henrique don't rely necessarily on speed rushes or uptempo game.
Sammo, your last thought...  
pganut : 2/18/2017 12:35 pm : link
...hits us Isles fans square in the gut. Sure, Lee and Bailey are having great years on our L1, but a first line of Hall-JT-Lee for us would have been deadly.
You gonna be able to move Kincaid and get something for him? He's a UFA at year's end. I'd love for the Isles to grab him as backup (assuming Berube goes the Rule VI FA route and leaves, and the Isles do move Halak after the season ends). That said, I do think there will be other more goalie-needy teams that'll make a move for him.

Thomas Greiss gets the start tonight, same F/D deployment as last game.
RE: Sammo, your last thought...  
Mike in NY : 2/18/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13364933 pganut said:
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...hits us Isles fans square in the gut. Sure, Lee and Bailey are having great years on our L1, but a first line of Hall-JT-Lee for us would have been deadly.
You gonna be able to move Kincaid and get something for him? He's a UFA at year's end. I'd love for the Isles to grab him as backup (assuming Berube goes the Rule VI FA route and leaves, and the Isles do move Halak after the season ends). That said, I do think there will be other more goalie-needy teams that'll make a move for him.

Thomas Greiss gets the start tonight, same F/D deployment as last game.


We have Gibson and Williams in the minors so I would hate to hold them back for someone like Kincaid
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feelflows : 2/18/2017 1:47 pm : link
RE: RE: Sammo, your last thought...  
pganut : 2/18/2017 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13364943 Mike in NY said:
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We have Gibson and Williams in the minors so I would hate to hold them back for someone like Kincaid
Understood, Mike, but both are injury-prone (Gibby out for the season, Williams just now rehabbing from an upper body injury), but truthfully evaluating both at best, they're AHL goalies and likely nothing more, although I really liked Williams coming out of Minnesota State. Kincaid would be a huge safety blanket until one of Sorokin or Soderstrom is ready.
RE: RE: RE: Sammo, your last thought...  
feelflows : 2/18/2017 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13364946 pganut said:
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In comment 13364943 Mike in NY said:


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We have Gibson and Williams in the minors so I would hate to hold them back for someone like Kincaid

Understood, Mike, but both are injury-prone (Gibby out for the season, Williams just now rehabbing from an upper body injury), but truthfully evaluating both at best, they're AHL goalies and likely nothing more, although I really liked Williams coming out of Minnesota State. Kincaid would be a huge safety blanket until one of Sorokin or Soderstrom is ready.


actually, I think Gibson has NHL caliber potential. He makes some unreal saves, he's just not consistent. That's typically youth related.

I'm not saying he can be an All-Star, but I think at minimum he can be a backup.
feelsy, re: Gibson  
pganut : 2/18/2017 2:10 pm : link
Fair enough; I think backup in the NHL is his ceiling. But if you gave me a choice between him and Kincaid for that role, I know which one I'd take is all I'm saying.
Ahh so this is why we have Jiggs, tonight.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/18/2017 2:33 pm : link
Congrats, Brendan!!

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Whoops  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/18/2017 2:34 pm : link
Sorry for the large picture.
Devils trade Kalinin to Toronto  
feelflows : 2/18/2017 2:51 pm : link
For Viktor Looooooov
just watched the end of the Caps-Wings  
Jints in Carolina : 2/18/2017 5:03 pm : link
I fucking hate ending a game in a shooutout.
RE: just watched the end of the Caps-Wings  
feelflows : 2/18/2017 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13365012 Jints in Carolina said:
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I fucking hate ending a game in a shooutout.


I couldn't agree more. Play a 10 min OT 4 on 4.
Nice deke by Ho-Sang earlier  
pganut : 2/18/2017 6:16 pm : link
Ho-Sang goal
Tremendous poke check by Greiss  
pganut : 2/18/2017 7:14 pm : link
Saves a goal on a breakaway from Hall.
Tremendous fail by CDH  
pganut : 2/18/2017 7:20 pm : link
To not even get a shoulder on Smith-Pelly as he went by him. Sloppy play so far for the Isles.
Does deHaan ever get shots from the point  
timintey : 2/18/2017 7:26 pm : link
on net????

Holy shit!
Devils  
KWhite2250 : 2/18/2017 7:38 pm : link
Are all over the isles so far
RE: Does deHaan ever get shots from the point  
KWhite2250 : 2/18/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13365061 timintey said:
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on net????

Holy shit!


De haan does nothing good. Never has and never will. Oh nvm he blocks shots
Obviously the Lee and Boychuk injuries will bear watching  
pganut : 2/18/2017 7:46 pm : link
But Weight needs to light these guys up in the room. I don't even know if what we've seen here qualifies as an effort.

If this is an indication of what we'll see on the road (and let's face it, this isn't much of a road game), this doesn't bode well.

Isles playing back on their heels against an offensively-challenged team. Need to be confident with the puck and play a speed game, and they'll get the opportunities.
Nelson  
KWhite2250 : 2/18/2017 8:10 pm : link
On his off nights, is really pathetic to watch. What a joke of a shift there by him
KW, you're right  
pganut : 2/18/2017 8:17 pm : link
He has vanished offensively, but my biggest gripe with him is easing up son zone exits from our end. He is a turnover machine and often doesn't put any mustard on his passes, gets them picked off.

This team has no business making the playoffs. 2 on 1 SH break? No fucking urgency tonight. They're having the playoffs handed to them and they don't want it.
Good game bad game good game bad game  
Dave M : 2/18/2017 8:18 pm : link
The trend continues.
The lollygagging even on the PP is painful to watch  
pganut : 2/18/2017 8:19 pm : link
And the Devils scoring was a deserved outcome. Shocking how little energy this team is playing ith tonight.
Worst game  
KWhite2250 : 2/18/2017 8:33 pm : link
The devils are just everywhere on the isles. Cant make a clean pass without a devil around to get a stick on it.
Isles look uncomfortable on the few occasions they have the puck  
pganut : 2/18/2017 8:38 pm : link
On their sticks.

So not only do we have the reality that our guys look tentative, but I'm not sure anything' getting by Schneider tonight. The missed PS gave him all the confidence he'd need tonight.

Yeah, I know there's a game tomorrow, but if they have any self-respect, not to mention wanting to seize a playoff spot, someone might want to get some buy-in for a balls out effort for 20 frickin' minutes.
Deflected off Seidenberg and in  
pganut : 2/18/2017 9:08 pm : link
Again, embarrassing "effort" here.

Amazing they can look good against top quality teams, yet play like garbage against lesser teams (see AZ & COL road losses as well). A similar effort to what was put forth against the NYR has the Isles winning this going away. This is like the OTT game all over again.
Great hustle by Beau there.  
pganut : 2/18/2017 9:25 pm : link
So now it's a game, but for sure, the SHG against and the deflection in off Seidenberg loom large.

Devs have no time out because of the lost challenge, so Isles would be wise to attack in waves, get them on their heels.
Leddy's gonna see that one in his sleep over and over  
pganut : 2/18/2017 9:40 pm : link
How he hit the post on a wide open net, I'm not sure.

Glad to see the effort in the 3rd, but I question what they did for the first 40 minutes. Similar to the season. Good push late, but pissing away the early portion cost them. But...no one to blame but themselves.
I didn't watch very much of it  
bigbluehoya : 2/18/2017 10:14 pm : link
But Mayfield seems to have a little bit of everything in his game. He should be pretty decent player. If he were a better skater his ceiling would be very high, IMO.
Yeah, he does  
pganut : 2/18/2017 10:25 pm : link
And your read is correct around his skating. To his credit, he has worked hard on that aspect and I think we as fans have seen a noticeable difference in his game. In an ideal world with a deep, talented team, he'd be a good 6-7 guy. But he is physical, opportunistic on offense and always seems to be able to get the puck on the net (which can't be said of all of our D with consistency). I like him. Isles are very deep into the system with D. Definitely some chips to be able to move if necessary.
Forgot to add  
pganut : 2/18/2017 10:27 pm : link
He acquitted himself nicely as a rookie in the playoffs against the Caps a couple of seasons back. So he shows up for the game, for sure.
Don't understand  
Metnut : 2/19/2017 1:43 am : link
how with a critical power play opportunity and a timeout in our pocket we didn't give JT and co a rest and get our best guys out there. Instead, I got to watch seindenberg and Quine for the majority of the power play as they did nothing. Blown opportunity Would've looked to get the goalie out sooner too.

I only saw 2nd and 3rd period but thought the team played good but had some bad puckluck. Need to win tomorrow and win a few more after, .500 hockey won't cut it.
RE: It's a Sat Night Game in February  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13364893 Sammo85 said:
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Very little else to do and Isles always show up well with fans in NJ. Good fans too. I'm a Devils fan.

I'll be at game tonight with family and an Isles fan among them.

Devils are riding out the string. As long as we get another high pick this year I'm fine and Shero continues reshaping the roster trough some savvy trades.

Zacha is showing some slow development already which is great after a rough start. Palmieri has turned it on after a rough start too. Cammalleri looks like he's declining steadily and that's a concern with 2 yrs left on his deal. Still have some work to do and in thinking about center and forward group over next few years at forward as Zajac is in his 30s now too. This offseason they need to add an PP QB offensive defenseman and top 6 winger to take pressure off Hall.

Key in near future is having guys like McLeod and Quenneville become solid young forwards over next few years. Wood and Speers are talented but are projects with question marks.

The Devils need to add a star first line forward as well as a top 4 defenseman in order to contend. Their farm system has gotten better but then again it couldn't have gotten any worse. Let's hope that Zacha continues to improve and becomes the star they expected when they drafted him so high. Hopefully they can trade guys like Cammalleri and Kinkaid for draft picks. I would make everyone except Zacha, Henrique, and Hall available for the right price.
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