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NFT: "Logan is The Dark Knight of the X-franchise"

Vin R : 2/18/2017 11:15 am
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a gripping film that transcends the comic-book genre by saying something important.


RT: 96%
MC: 73


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That might piss me off.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/18/2017 11:52 am : link
I love the character and I thought Jackman was perfect for the role but I always felt that these movies never hit the mark. It would be great to see it done once or twice but it just makes some of the others movies seem like a waste when they coukd have been so much better.
The smaller scale Marvel movies  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/18/2017 11:56 am : link
Babe been great. Ant Man was very under rated. They did a very Good Job e Dr Strange.

Without the need for 15 characters and two leads like Stewart and Jackman This should be very good.
I was talking about the X-Men movies  
robbieballs2003 : 2/18/2017 11:57 am : link
Very few of them were good.
By ''The Dark Knight of the X-franchise''  
Overseer : 2/18/2017 12:06 pm : link
do they mean a sprawling mess of a film anchored by a nice performance? If so, I say good for Jackman who is a pretty cool guy.

I suspect we see many more R rated Superhero films, as studios no doubt believe they’ve discovered a new route to 9 figure receipts. Probably say fuck it and milk Spiderman (again), Batman, Xmen, etc etc except this time with some extra fucks and a nip slip.

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The problem with the first two Wolverine movies  
Captplanet : 2/18/2017 12:24 pm : link
is that they were not real Wolverine movies, those movies tried too hard to attract non-fans. If you read the comics, he was a bad, violent man, who smoke and drank. If this movie can bring that part out, which from the reviews, this might be the case. Then it is sad that this is Jackman's last performance as Wolverine
RE: I was talking about the X-Men movies  
TheOtherManning : 2/18/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13364904 robbieballs2003 said:
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Very few of them were good.


I'd say that X2, First Class, The Wolverine, and Days of Future Past are all pretty good for the genre. The first movie was kinda mediocre and hasn't aged very well, but it gets a pass for basically being the first big budget comic book movie and setting the trend.

Last Stand, Origins, and Apocalypse are the real stinkers of the franchise. But that's still roughly a 50% hit rate, which is better than a lot of other franchises (Fantastic 4, the new DC stuff, Spider-Man...).
Vin  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/18/2017 2:39 pm : link
With the Dark Knight, I saw it without seeing Batman Begins and I didn't feel like I needed to at all while watching. Loved it.

From your experience with this series, do you think I'd be able to watch this on it's own as a standalone film? 96% is hard to ignore.
RE: I was talking about the X-Men movies  
djm : 2/18/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13364904 robbieballs2003 said:
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Very few of them were good.


I loved all of them except X3 and Apocalypse.
Yeah the first X was just OK  
djm : 2/18/2017 2:51 pm : link
And the wolverine was good.

Doug, I liked some of them  
robbieballs2003 : 2/18/2017 3:28 pm : link
But they were just good at best. I just feel they missed the mark. If I see them on I really have no connection to watch them again. I feel like the X-Men series could be the gold standard of comic book movies because of the depth of the stories and characters with Wolverine being at the forefront.
RE: Vin  
spike : 2/18/2017 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13364957 Mike in Long Beach said:
[quote] With the Dark Knight, I saw it without seeing Batman Begins and I didn't feel like I needed to at all while watching. Loved it.

From your experience with this series, do you think I'd be able to watch this on it's own as a standalone film? 96% is hard to ignore. [/quote

Yes. Its Wolverine in the future and has very little to do with the past X movies. Its almost like it is not in based in the same continuity
RE: Vin  
Vin R : 2/18/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13364957 Mike in Long Beach said:
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With the Dark Knight, I saw it without seeing Batman Begins and I didn't feel like I needed to at all while watching. Loved it.

From your experience with this series, do you think I'd be able to watch this on it's own as a standalone film? 96% is hard to ignore.


Yeah, if you were going to watch one before seeing Logan - I'd say watch The Wolverine
wait  
santacruzom : 2/18/2017 5:14 pm : link
It's not just taken for granted that The Dark Knight "said something important," is it?
The Dark Knight  
Cruzin : 2/18/2017 9:25 pm : link

Pretty much sucked sans Heath Ledger.

Batman Begins is the best of all the Batman movies.

All the X men movies are better than the Batman Trilogy.

Hugh Jackman is more talented than anyone in any of the comic book movies. He makes an unwatchable story in Japan watchable because of his presence. Christian Bale is dedicated but just not as good.

X-Men > Batman
RE: The Dark Knight  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/18/2017 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13365103 Cruzin said:
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All the X men movies are better than the Batman Trilogy.


I'm going to go ahead and assume you never saw X-Men 3.

That was a steaming pile of crap.
As opposed to  
Cruzin : 2/18/2017 9:47 pm : link

The Dark Knight Rises?

C'mon man.
I actually agree with you that  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/18/2017 9:52 pm : link
the Nolan movies are highly overrated.

...and I like Chris Nolan's work otherwise.  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/18/2017 10:00 pm : link
His Batman movies are a clumsily written mess for the most part, plot holes galore.

For whatever reason millennials responded to the "realistic" take, but it did nothing for me.
Begins was easily the best  
UConn4523 : 2/18/2017 10:02 pm : link
TDK gets high praise for the standout performance but it was a mess of a movie. That said the xmen movies also sucked but Logan looks very good. Glad to see Jackman actually acting in one of these movies for a change.
The dark knight was probably one of the best theater  
madgiantscow009 : 2/19/2017 4:23 am : link
experiences I've had. I haven't even watched it since, but as for a first time watch in the theater without any really stringent analysis it was fantastic. Much better than any other superhero movie for me except for the Michael Keaton batman.
RE: I actually agree with you that  
Joey in VA : 2/19/2017 10:18 am : link
In comment 13365113 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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the Nolan movies are highly overrated.
I have a fundamental issue with the term overrated. It's rated by people, many of whom like it, so it deserves to be rated in relation to who did and did not like it. You may not agree with the majority, that makes you an outlier, it doesn't make a thing "overrated". It's rated exactly as how it should be, by a consensus of opinion, you just happen to disagree with that. I'm not trying to be dickish or contrarian, I fully support your right to opine on anything but I keep seeing "so and so is overrated" or "that is overrated"..it's not it's perfectly rated it's just not for you. For instance, I think disagree with most people about a couple of bands who are wildly famous and critically acclaimed. They deserve their rating, they earned it, I just happen to be in the minority.
RE: Doug, I liked some of them  
djm : 2/19/2017 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13364979 robbieballs2003 said:
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But they were just good at best. I just feel they missed the mark. If I see them on I really have no connection to watch them again. I feel like the X-Men series could be the gold standard of comic book movies because of the depth of the stories and characters with Wolverine being at the forefront.


That is true. Tons of potential with the characters.

On that note check out the new series on FX called "legion" it shows serious potential.
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