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NFT: UAE to build first city on Mars by 2117

JohnF : 2/20/2017 7:19 pm
UAE to build first city on Mars link



Not so pie in the sky...the UAE has the money to do this, and SpaceX and NASA may be involved as well. According the the BBC, there are also hard-headed commercial considerations behind the Mars mission to go along with trying to bring back the golden age when the Middle East lead the world in learning.

Here's their website, where they explain what they are trying to do...and it's impressive. Note that they are looking long term at this, with the 2117 date, and the goal of a city that would support 600,000 residents! Considering what they did with Dubai, I wouldn't bet against them.

An interesting Q& A: The 29-year-old woman who’s lead scientist for the UAE’s Mars mission!
One hundred years from now...seems realistic.  
yatqb : 2/20/2017 7:27 pm : link
Hopefully the race survives that long.
Now I can see if you lived on Mars  
Stan in LA : 2/20/2017 7:39 pm : link
And wanted to come to a place like Earth. Fine. But the other way around? Sheeesh.
The power goes  
XBRONX : 2/20/2017 7:54 pm : link
out and everyone dies.
and maybe women will have equal voting rights?  
32_Razor : 2/20/2017 8:42 pm : link
??
Pretty inspiring, I hope it happens  
JerryNYG : 2/20/2017 8:59 pm : link
There has been a lot of recent talk about missions to the asteroid belt, also. That could provide an intermediary stop for refueling, maintenance, etc.

There are also so many precious metals stored inside some of the asteroids that they could have a profound warping effect on the world's economy.
Hopefully that gives Quaid time  
The_Boss : 2/20/2017 11:27 pm : link
To find Kuato who will reveal the atmosphere making mechanism before Cohaagen does. Also I hope Richter uses his hands a lot before losing them in a bizarre elevator accident.
awesome  
japanhead : 2/20/2017 11:50 pm : link
destroy the earth by 2116, commence fucking over the rest of the solar system starting 2117! yay progress!
Well  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/21/2017 12:42 am : link
If they don't figure out how to diversify their economy away from oil, in 100 years they might not have the money to get to Mali, much less Mars.
They have the money now ...  
Beer Man : 2/21/2017 7:39 am : link
But as the world works towards renewal energy sources (like hydrogen), will they still have the money a 100 years from now?
RE: Well  
section125 : 2/21/2017 7:47 am : link
In comment 13366169 Jim in Fairfax said:
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If they don't figure out how to diversify their economy away from oil, in 100 years they might not have the money to get to Mali, much less Mars.


UAE is very diversified and not oil production dependent. IIRC, they are a big banking center for the middle east.
at least they were smart enough to date  
mdc1 : 2/21/2017 10:38 am : link
it forward enough that no one would survive to call them out on it. I thought peak oil was happening sooner? a little late?
RE: They have the money now ...  
Scyber : 2/21/2017 10:48 am : link
In comment 13366188 Beer Man said:
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But as the world works towards renewal energy sources (like hydrogen), will they still have the money a 100 years from now?


If they start building the infrastructure for space colonization and mining they will be richer then they are now in 100 years. 1 asteroid can be worth well over $1 trillion.
People need more space  
spike : 2/21/2017 10:50 am : link
so they can all get along
And when completed  
Deej : 2/21/2017 10:55 am : link
they double super swear that they'll finally give passports back to their Pakistani "workers"
from OP  
Deej : 2/21/2017 11:04 am : link
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"Not so pie in the sky...the UAE has the money to do this


Do they? They have the GDP of Pennsylvania. With a higher per-capita rate, sure. But still, not a mega economy. A dollar is a dollar is a dollar. Moreover, I dont think section is correct. Dubai is less reliant on oil but overall UAE economy is still 80+% oil. And as Beerman points out, that is a product that could become more niche in the future.
Get your ass back to Mars.  
Britt in VA : 2/21/2017 11:14 am : link
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Mars needs  
YAJ2112 : 2/21/2017 11:29 am : link
women
RE: from OP  
section125 : 2/21/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13366444 Deej said:
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"Not so pie in the sky...the UAE has the money to do this



Do they? They have the GDP of Pennsylvania. With a higher per-capita rate, sure. But still, not a mega economy. A dollar is a dollar is a dollar. Moreover, I dont think section is correct. Dubai is less reliant on oil but overall UAE economy is still 80+% oil. And as Beerman points out, that is a product that could become more niche in the future.


UAE oil/gas is 40% of GDP according to the link. Some of the Emirates don't have oil/gas. Some do.
Most of the Emirates are looking post oil production for their future - mostly commerce.
UAE Facts - ( New Window )
RE: RE: from OP  
Deej : 2/21/2017 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13366590 section125 said:
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In comment 13366444 Deej said:


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"Not so pie in the sky...the UAE has the money to do this



Do they? They have the GDP of Pennsylvania. With a higher per-capita rate, sure. But still, not a mega economy. A dollar is a dollar is a dollar. Moreover, I dont think section is correct. Dubai is less reliant on oil but overall UAE economy is still 80+% oil. And as Beerman points out, that is a product that could become more niche in the future.



UAE oil/gas is 40% of GDP according to the link. Some of the Emirates don't have oil/gas. Some do.
Most of the Emirates are looking post oil production for their future - mostly commerce. UAE Facts - ( New Window )


Says "About 40 per cent of the country’s gross domestic product is directly based on oil and gas output."

Which begs questions. What is meant by "directly"? What about indirect -- a hotel or food truck that only exists because of the petro industry customers? And what about the stuff that isnt oil and gas but would dry up without oil and gas money? Is UAE really going to be a vacation home destination 25 years after oil dries up, or is all sorts of tourism, housing, and education business flowing to these little sheikdoms right now because of massive subsidies and temporary global relevance? I give UAE credit for investing to try to get away from oil and towards a vibrant, diversified economy. I just reserve judgment.

Also, I note that the same OPEC website says oil/gas is responsible for just 50% of the Saudi GDP. I think there is just a natural limit even for petro states. You still have food, housing, plumbers etc.
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