According to ESPN’s Ian Begley, the Timberwolves have talked to the Knicks about a possible trade involving Rose. Begley reports that “it is unclear” what the Timberwolves would offer the Knicks for the former MVP. The Timberwolves aren’t the only team inquiring about Rose as Begley reports that “several teams” have reached out to the Knicks about their starting point guard.
-Berman is implying Melo prefers LAC/LAL over Cleveland, Boston etc but like everyone else he's saying a deal would be shocking.
-Steve Kyler says Paul has a verbal agreement to remain with LAC and will be official once the new CBA begins.
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the Knicks are 13th in the NBA in FG% allowed. I thought they would be near the bottom.
They're 25th in defensive efficiency.
Oh I know they are bad.... I just thought teams shot a lot better against them.
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the Knicks are 13th in the NBA in FG% allowed. I thought they would be near the bottom.
They're 25th in defensive efficiency.
Oh I know they are bad.... I just thought teams shot a lot better against them.
eFG% allowed is 9th BEST because their 3 point D is actually decent (3P% against is also 9th). What does stick out in our stats allowed is ORB allowed (worst), FTA (7th worst, 2nd worst in foul rate), and TOs caused (4th worst). Stats are referenced per-possession.
Knicks are bad at pressuring the ball. They have bad non-shooting outcomes on D.
Melo and KP are shooters. Shooters can ALWAYS go off. Who had us beating SAS? I'd be surprised if the current roster closes that bad, especially if KP and Noah get healthy.
If could then trade brook for a 1 and 2 and then take on ezeli for comp- they will have something going for the offseason rfa attempts
If that deadline passes and there's no deal for Rose, why not just buy him out? What purpose does it serve keeping him for the last 25 games?
Why would that be a big deal? He only has 2 years left, so 1 before he becomes an expiring.
There isn't a chance in hell they'd pass up those top PGs because Rubio is on the roster. Minny took Dunn despite having Rubio.
If could then trade brook for a 1 and 2 and then take on ezeli for comp- they will have something going for the offseason rfa attempts
Mirotic might be very gettable, could be a good reward if he can get his 3 point shot figured out.
I struggle to see how we could be stuck with Rubio. Contract runs 2 more seasons. Even assuming it is untradeable, so what? 16-18 minutes as the backup 1, plus time in 2 PG guard sets. Fundamentally, I dont see Melo, Noah, KP, Lee, Fultz/Smith/Ball competing for a title in 2018-19. And then Rubio is done.
More realistic to me is that he has some value in 2018-19 to someone who could use some PG depth/defense. I'd also like to see what he brings as a bench guard, as his athleticism might shine thru better in the less structured game that comes when the starters sit.
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Wolves’ pursuit of Derrick Rose still very strong—“Thibs wants to do this,” says league source w/knowledge—but MIN absolutely keeping Dunn.
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Wolves’ pursuit of Derrick Rose still very strong—“Thibs wants to do this,” says league source w/knowledge—but MIN absolutely keeping Dunn.
Was Dunn even up for grabs?
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Wolves’ pursuit of Derrick Rose still very strong—“Thibs wants to do this,” says league source w/knowledge—but MIN absolutely keeping Dunn.
Was Dunn even up for grabs?
For Rose? I wouldnt think so. I think it is just a statement that just because they want to trade for Rose, a PG, does not mean that they are looking to move on from Dunn, another PG.
Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, KAT, Dunn, Dieng. They have the third worst record in the West.
Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, KAT, Dunn, Dieng. They have the third worst record in the West.
The offensive reputation for all of those guys are levels ahead of where their defense stands. Defense comes much, much later in any player's career.
The Rockets are sending Corey Brewer and a first-round pick to the Lakers for Lou Williams, league source tells @TheVertical.
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In a vacuum I take Williams. If I need a starting SG, I take Lee.
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In what way?
Nvm, thought you were suggesting we were going to beat the Cavs lol.
I'd much rather have Courtney Lee. Lou Williams might be the worst defender in the league.
Courtney Lee and KOQ to the Wizards for picks. They need bench help....
I guess it depends on your expectation. I'd expect the Rose for Rubio trade to go down, and I think it's a safe bet that Jennings and/or KOQ goes for a pick. Melo's almost certainly staying.
I'd much rather have Courtney Lee. Lou Williams might be the worst defender in the league.
Courtney Lee and KOQ to the Wizards for picks. They need bench help....
I don't think anyone was saying NO 1st rounders would be traded. Like Deej said, not all 1st rounders are equal. The Rockets pick could very easily be the 28th pick in the draft and half of Lou Will's value is his contract. Lee's certainly not un-tradeable but his contract isn't amazing, either. He's getting twice what Williams is getting.
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Umm...Emmanuel Mudiay is expected to play on Thursday?
Reggie Jackson? That would be way worse than Rubio....way worse.
I have to believe that these rumors are teams and agents using the media to strengthen their position. Hopefully Phil is smarter than that. We will see.
Reggie Jackson? That would be way worse than Rubio....way worse.
I have to believe that these rumors are teams and agents using the media to strengthen their position. Hopefully Phil is smarter than that. We will see.
Part of what the Knicks need to be doing is developing Porzingis. He's not going to get better surrounded by ball hogs, but he's also not going to get better surrounded by garbage playing for 15 win teams.
You have to field a team, and Rubio isn't a long term commitment.
We need to stop making excuses for KP. Stop blaming Rose for KP's stagnation. KP has not played well this year and that isn't Rose's fault. Rose isn't a facilitator, but he also doesn't hog the ball until he has to. He's had to a lot this year. I understand that his style isn't really going to help KP a ton, but it's not his fault KP hasn't progressed.
Nobody has benefitted from Rose's play this season except Rose demonstrating that he can still score when he wants to.
Minnesota says no. They're picking higher than the Knicks right now. That pick is worth a lot more than KOQ.
Agreed. I don't want Jrue Holiday here on a $100+ million contract. Rubio's a tradeable asset down the line who won't prevent us from drafting a PG this year. I worry about a short-term bump in wins, but hopefully we deal off another piece or two to negate that.
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Because I don't expect this team to spend that money on anything wiser come this offseason.
Agreed. I don't want Jrue Holiday here on a $100+ million contract. Rubio's a tradeable asset down the line who won't prevent us from drafting a PG this year. I worry about a short-term bump in wins, but hopefully we deal off another piece or two to negate that.
See what I don't get is that there's no indication player values are adjusting quickly to the now non-increasing salary cap. Guys like cousins and Paul George are expected to get $200M deals. That's the point of the new CBA right? Give the stars a bigger share of the pot so they have less incentive to leave. By default that means everyone else should be making less, right?
Then why the hell are guys like Jrue Holiday, Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, and Jeff Teague expected to get max/near-max deals in the near future? You'd think teams would learn from the Solomon hill and Joakim Noah deals of last season. Teams who will be giving these max contracts to the "pretty good but not great" class of players will be in Deep shit in 3-4 years. Which is why I'm not all that upset if we don't have cap space in the near future. Wait it out, there will be plenty of bad contracts teams will pay to get rid of them. And after that happens there may be yet a time again when you can find Jae Crowders on $6M annual contracts.
Just listened to latest Woj podcast. Few tidbits.
-Knicks are trying really hard to move Rose. Calling around for him and desperately want to trade him. Said it shows they have no interest in resigning him. Doesn't think they can get back much- maybe a bottom of the league PG.
- Doesn't sound like Melo is getting traded. When they called around to gauge his value, teams said they would take him as giveaway and wouldn't give up much. Believes they will revisit it in the offseason but described him as just above a "giveaway" player. Not getting lottery pick or valuable young players for him.
He's gonna be here, probably for his whole remaining contract.
He's gonna be here, probably for his whole remaining contract.
Unfortunately, that is probably true.