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NFT: Knicks Chat: Rose has multiple suitors

DanMetroMan : 2/21/2017 9:08 am
According to ESPN’s Ian Begley, the Timberwolves have talked to the Knicks about a possible trade involving Rose. Begley reports that “it is unclear” what the Timberwolves would offer the Knicks for the former MVP. The Timberwolves aren’t the only team inquiring about Rose as Begley reports that “several teams” have reached out to the Knicks about their starting point guard.

-Berman is implying Melo prefers LAC/LAL over Cleveland, Boston etc but like everyone else he's saying a deal would be shocking.

-Steve Kyler says Paul has a verbal agreement to remain with LAC and will be official once the new CBA begins.
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RE: What about a Rose and KOQ for  
giantsfan44ab : 2/21/2017 10:39 pm : link
In comment 13367380 NoGainDayne said:
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Rubio and their 1st rounder, who says no? KOQ is an asset on a good contract Rubio is a bad contract. They get to make a push this year and have more cap room this summer


Minnesota says no. They're picking higher than the Knicks right now. That pick is worth a lot more than KOQ.
Also why downplay the importance of getting his development right?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/21/2017 10:40 pm : link
The long term future of this franchise hinges on what he turns out to be. You don't just shrug your shoulders at that and lust after ping pong balls.
RE: I'm rooting for a Rubio trade  
bceagle05 : 2/21/2017 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13367379 giantsfan44ab said:
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Because I don't expect this team to spend that money on anything wiser come this offseason.


Agreed. I don't want Jrue Holiday here on a $100+ million contract. Rubio's a tradeable asset down the line who won't prevent us from drafting a PG this year. I worry about a short-term bump in wins, but hopefully we deal off another piece or two to negate that.
RE: RE: I'm rooting for a Rubio trade  
giantsfan44ab : 2/21/2017 10:50 pm : link
In comment 13367386 bceagle05 said:
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In comment 13367379 giantsfan44ab said:


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Because I don't expect this team to spend that money on anything wiser come this offseason.



Agreed. I don't want Jrue Holiday here on a $100+ million contract. Rubio's a tradeable asset down the line who won't prevent us from drafting a PG this year. I worry about a short-term bump in wins, but hopefully we deal off another piece or two to negate that.


See what I don't get is that there's no indication player values are adjusting quickly to the now non-increasing salary cap. Guys like cousins and Paul George are expected to get $200M deals. That's the point of the new CBA right? Give the stars a bigger share of the pot so they have less incentive to leave. By default that means everyone else should be making less, right?

Then why the hell are guys like Jrue Holiday, Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, and Jeff Teague expected to get max/near-max deals in the near future? You'd think teams would learn from the Solomon hill and Joakim Noah deals of last season. Teams who will be giving these max contracts to the "pretty good but not great" class of players will be in Deep shit in 3-4 years. Which is why I'm not all that upset if we don't have cap space in the near future. Wait it out, there will be plenty of bad contracts teams will pay to get rid of them. And after that happens there may be yet a time again when you can find Jae Crowders on $6M annual contracts.
Rubio  
TyreeHelmet : 2/21/2017 10:56 pm : link
Trading Rose for Rubio is essentially signing Rubio to a 2 year deal for 28 million in the offseason. That's a very reasonable contract for a starting point guard. I also like the idea of Rubio playing with KP and other young guys. And it would be nice to have a decent defender at the point. Haven't had that since.... Charlie Ward maybe?

Just listened to latest Woj podcast. Few tidbits.

-Knicks are trying really hard to move Rose. Calling around for him and desperately want to trade him. Said it shows they have no interest in resigning him. Doesn't think they can get back much- maybe a bottom of the league PG.
- Doesn't sound like Melo is getting traded. When they called around to gauge his value, teams said they would take him as giveaway and wouldn't give up much. Believes they will revisit it in the offseason but described him as just above a "giveaway" player. Not getting lottery pick or valuable young players for him.
They passed the point of no return with melo one year ago  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/21/2017 11:00 pm : link
maybe two years ago was their window to deal him for a package that could set up the team's future.

He's gonna be here, probably for his whole remaining contract.
RE: They passed the point of no return with melo one year ago  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/22/2017 6:22 am : link
In comment 13367393 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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maybe two years ago was their window to deal him for a package that could set up the team's future.

He's gonna be here, probably for his whole remaining contract.


Unfortunately, that is probably true.
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