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pganut : 2/21/2017 12:13 pm
Well, this is it. Make or break. The 9-game road monster starts tonight in the Islanders' final visit to The Joe. It's crucial we earn at least 10 out of 18 points on this one. Weight knows the road hasn't exactly been kind to his team this season:
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“We got to change things,” interim head coach Doug Weight said. “We don’t have a good feeling, not a good vibe on the road right now. … We’ve been (home) a lot and we’ve been great (at home) and it’s been a crutch. Hopefully, we can get on the road and get together as a team and start to be that good road team that I believe we can be.”
Stand or fall; state your piece tonight.

Thomas Greiss in net. Same defensive group. 13 forwards skated today; final lines TBD closer to gametime, with the bigger news being that Cal Clutterbuck will be in the lineup this evening. Shane Prince skated today, but not ready to return yet.

Ilya Sorokin and his CSKA team start the first round of the KHL playoffs today. While his numbers slipped slightly from last season, he's still among the league leaders with a 1.61 goals against average and a .930 save percentage.

Finally, while not Islanders related, a great video clip with Vladdy Tarasenko showing hockey players are the best. Stick tap to him and the Blues for treating the little girl you'll see so well: Tarasenko Surprises 11-year old Girl w/Neuroblastoma

Let's Go Islanders
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12 points  
theold5j : 2/21/2017 1:06 pm : link
That was the number i was looking for out of this trip
Who is sitting for Clutterbuck?  
Dave M : 2/21/2017 2:03 pm : link
I was hoping to see Seidenberg sitting tonight but I guess not.These Detroit games get crazy sometimes. Do we have any idea at all when Hamonic is due back?
On the Isles' longest road trip each of the last two seasons  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/21/2017 2:06 pm : link
They've gone 6-1 and 4-2, respectively. I'm hoping that our road woes can be fixed (or at least contained) by getting into a bit of a routine over the next couple of weeks. We need to collect 14 points, IMO.

I know that's a huge number, but Florida's emergence as a force in the East has made that final Wild Card even more crowded. We have to find ways to consistently get points until March 13.
I wish they would trade  
KWhite2250 : 2/21/2017 2:07 pm : link
De haan and sit seidenberg. Bring up pulock already and play pelech. Or what really could happen is the coach breaks up the terrible pairing of seidenberg/de haan
RE: I wish they would trade  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/21/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13366779 KWhite2250 said:
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De haan and sit seidenberg. Bring up pulock already and play pelech. Or what really could happen is the coach breaks up the terrible pairing of seidenberg/de haan


I've actually liked de Haan a lot this year, but I also agree him and Seidenberg aren't playing well together. Lately both haven't been very good.
RE: RE: I wish they would trade  
KWhite2250 : 2/21/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13366780 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In comment 13366779 KWhite2250 said:


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De haan and sit seidenberg. Bring up pulock already and play pelech. Or what really could happen is the coach breaks up the terrible pairing of seidenberg/de haan



I've actually liked de Haan a lot this year, but I also agree him and Seidenberg aren't playing well together. Lately both haven't been very good.


Just not a de haan fan. He was hyped up by the prospect weenies and he's just meh. I think he brings nothing to the offensive part of the game. I guess he sometimes makes quick outlet passes? But he never hits the net with a shot nor does he make great passes in the O zone. Which is pretty nuts to see him on PP2 while Pulock dominates in bport
Sorokin and CSKA wins game 1 against Jokerit  
pganut : 2/21/2017 2:50 pm : link
4-2.

Dave, I imagine Gionta will sit for 15. Hammer didn't accompany the Isles on this leg of the road trip, but per Staple, will join them on the road for next week's games. It's possible this will be a one way trip for some, so it's in their favor that their bags are already packed :-)
We will know if this is a worthy playoff team or not  
marbles : 2/21/2017 2:51 pm : link
After the trip we will either talk about moving assets to trade for Duchene, or moving assets to get Nolan in the draft.

RE: We will know if this is a worthy playoff team or not  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/21/2017 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13366836 marbles said:
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After the trip we will either talk about moving assets to trade for Duchene, or moving assets to get Nolan in the draft.


My fellow season ticket holder buddy and I are in 210, but for our next home game we got upgraded to seats right on the glass. Here's to hoping that's a worthwhile game.
Road record  
Fish : 2/21/2017 3:12 pm : link
The islanders sucked early on. New pieces replaced old pieces. We sucked at home, we sucked on the road. Since we've played a ton more games at home we got a new coach and players found their way. Now time to take show on road and show the NHL we are a good team.
RE: Road record  
pganut : 2/21/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13366868 Fish said:
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The islanders sucked early on. New pieces replaced old pieces. We sucked at home, we sucked on the road. Since we've played a ton more games at home we got a new coach and players found their way. Now time to take show on road and show the NHL we are a good team.
You're right. I just hope that huge hole that was dug early on isn't their undoing (although statistically speaking, it is). That said, I'm gonna turn off the "scoreboard watching" during this roadie. All of the other stuff won't matter if the Isles don't do what they need to on this trip.
RE: RE: Road record  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/21/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13366909 pganut said:
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The islanders sucked early on. New pieces replaced old pieces. We sucked at home, we sucked on the road. Since we've played a ton more games at home we got a new coach and players found their way. Now time to take show on road and show the NHL we are a good team.

You're right. I just hope that huge hole that was dug early on isn't their undoing (although statistically speaking, it is). That said, I'm gonna turn off the "scoreboard watching" during this roadie. All of the other stuff won't matter if the Isles don't do what they need to on this trip.


To each their own... I'll have Winnepeg @ Toronto on my laptop tonight :)
The team  
Metnut : 2/21/2017 4:03 pm : link
has done well the past month to make this road trip meaningful. Now, it's make-or-break time. Glad that clutterbuck is back with the team.

Need to get 2pts tonight against a bad Detroit team. Nothing ever easy though as Detroit is coming off of consecutive wins versus the Pens and Caps.
RE: The team  
marbles : 2/21/2017 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13366930 Metnut said:
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has done well the past month to make this road trip meaningful. Now, it's make-or-break time. Glad that clutterbuck is back with the team.

Need to get 2pts tonight against a bad Detroit team. Nothing ever easy though as Detroit is coming off of consecutive wins versus the Pens and Caps.


On the flip side, the last time they played in Detroit, the Red Wings were in the middle of a slump, but managed to beat the Isles anyway. Maybe this is a good thing for the Isles.
I want  
Fish : 2/21/2017 4:46 pm : link
Fransies head on a platter.
RE: I want  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/21/2017 4:47 pm : link
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Fransies head on a platter.


Johan Franzen I assume and not Frans Nielsen :)
LOl  
Fish : 2/21/2017 4:53 pm : link
Both. But Nielsen thought he would leave town and have last laugh and now he gets to look at his old team trying to make the playoffs. Watching his old friends having fun without him.
It's all semantics  
pganut : 2/21/2017 5:06 pm : link
But with Clutter back in tonight, I wonder if they'll pull the "A" from Bailey since he was awarded it while 15 & 3 have been on the shelf. I'd be curious to see if they take it away and it slows his mojo. I see no issue with 3 "A"s until Hamonic comes back (Ladd/Clutter/Bailey).
Found this on TSN  
pganut : 2/21/2017 5:31 pm : link
Showing biggest increases in (score-venue adjusted) CF% since Christmas:
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The Islanders are obviously surging. The top line of John Tavares, Anders Lee and Josh Bailey are dominating, but there has been big improvement for Andrew Ladd, Nick Leddy, Calvin de Haan and others. Before Christmas, the Islanders as a team were hovering around 46.0 score/venue-adjusted CF%; since then, the team as a whole is up to 50.9 CF%, so their improved record has strong underpinnings with improved shot metrics.
While we've certainly seen a better run of play since the holidays, this is interesting to me given there have been games we've won handily, yet still lost the Corsi battle. Regardless, credit to Weight for helping to get these numbers to a much more respectable place. Full article/chart linked below.
Statistically Speaking, Isles Big Line Driving Play - ( New Window )
RE: Found this on TSN  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/21/2017 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13367046 pganut said:
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Showing biggest increases in (score-venue adjusted) CF% since Christmas:

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The Islanders are obviously surging. The top line of John Tavares, Anders Lee and Josh Bailey are dominating, but there has been big improvement for Andrew Ladd, Nick Leddy, Calvin de Haan and others. Before Christmas, the Islanders as a team were hovering around 46.0 score/venue-adjusted CF%; since then, the team as a whole is up to 50.9 CF%, so their improved record has strong underpinnings with improved shot metrics.

While we've certainly seen a better run of play since the holidays, this is interesting to me given there have been games we've won handily, yet still lost the Corsi battle. Regardless, credit to Weight for helping to get these numbers to a much more respectable place. Full article/chart linked below. Statistically Speaking, Isles Big Line Driving Play - ( New Window )


Wow, that's great stuff. Thanks for sharing.
RE: RE: RE: Road record  
JayBinQueens : 2/21/2017 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13366913 Mike in Long Beach said:
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To each their own... I'll have Winnepeg @ Toronto on my laptop tonight :)


Laine + Tornto's F's are a fun bunch to watch
I am actually looking forward to this trip  
The 12th Man : 2/21/2017 7:38 pm : link
You will find out what this team is made of and if they belong in the playoffs after this trip. Winning the 1st game in a long trip is huge. Can not start slow tonight. Go Isles!
I am actually looking forward to this trip  
The 12th Man : 2/21/2017 7:38 pm : link
You will find out what this team is made of and if they belong in the playoffs after this trip. Winning the 1st game in a long trip is huge. Can not start slow tonight. Go Isles!
Grrr  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:02 pm : link
2 posts for the Isles so far.
Wooo  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:05 pm : link
#12 for #12
Wooooo!  
Dave M : 2/21/2017 8:05 pm : link
Bailey! I always loved that guy.
you have  
JayBinQueens : 2/21/2017 8:12 pm : link
to be fucking kidding me
Get the lead  
The 12th Man : 2/21/2017 8:12 pm : link
And then can not get the puck out of our end which causes us to take a dumb penalty. Now a freakin goal on the PP
Enough  
KWhite2250 : 2/21/2017 8:12 pm : link
Of seidenberg! Great fucking effort there
What a joke  
Dave M : 2/21/2017 8:12 pm : link
.
Detroit can't score unless it's a fluke  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:13 pm : link
Thanks, ref, for knocking the puck down for them.
This team has the worst luck  
The 12th Man : 2/21/2017 8:13 pm : link
Of any team in the NHL
And that was a pathetic defensive shift before the penalty  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:14 pm : link
Too many of our guys had chances to battle for the puck but backed off, allowing DET to keep possession.
Worst PP in the NHL  
The 12th Man : 2/21/2017 8:15 pm : link
And they score on us in 3 freakin seconds.
I have the Wings feed  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:20 pm : link
And I thought till that final shift, we looked pretty good.

Not sure what the Wings studio host is watching but he just said the Isles' "shaky goaltending" allowed the Wings to tie it. Greiss was moving laterally, hard one to stop. But what steams me is at the puck drop on the final faceoff, we swept the puck but it hit the ref's skate which allowed the Wings to keep possession (otherwise, it would have been a 50-50 puck and I think we could have bled the clock).

It's one period, and we're not behind. Not the worst thing, but they need to be mentally strong the rest of the way. This game sets the tone for the trip.
THere's some good luck!  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:49 pm : link
Off Ouellet's face and in.
De haan  
KWhite2250 : 2/21/2017 8:51 pm : link
With a great shot 👍🏻
RE: De haan  
pganut : 2/21/2017 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13367252 KWhite2250 said:
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With a great shot 👍🏻
I know you're wearing his jersey tonight. Come clean....
So far  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:00 pm : link
We turn a 4 minute PP into a SH save situation, then a 4 on 4. Terrible recognition by some of our guys (Beau) on awareness on the breakout.

And I love the 4 on 4 Isles-standing-around fest that's completely given momentum back to DET.

Zeeker looked like he really hurt his hand...any updates on the Isles broadcast?
Really getting tired of our guys getting robbed on miracle saves  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:03 pm : link
On open nets.
Holy shit  
timintey : 2/21/2017 9:03 pm : link
What a save!!
RE: So far  
JayBinQueens : 2/21/2017 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13367271 pganut said:
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Zeeker looked like he really hurt his hand...any updates on the Isles broadcast?


Just that he went to the locker room with what looks like a jammed hand/wrist
Oh, good.  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:06 pm : link
Another Isles penalty with less than 2 to go in a period. I'm shocked.
RE: RE: So far  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13367276 JayBinQueens said:
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Zeeker looked like he really hurt his hand...any updates on the Isles broadcast?



Just that he went to the locker room with what looks like a jammed hand/wrist
Thx, Jay
WHY  
JayBinQueens : 2/21/2017 9:10 pm : link
Isn't this a 4-3
Shouldn't have been a penalty on Bailey anyway  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:15 pm : link
Nielsen tripped on the linesman, not Bailey's stick.

DET announcers bitching about the "extra slashes and hacks" by the Isles. Guess they missed Abdelkeder's whack on Greiss that started that late scrum, along with all the hooking/holding DET is getting away with tonight.
^  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:17 pm : link
Or the fact that on the PP on which DET scored, Larkin was slashing Mayfield as much as he himself was being slashed. Classic big guy vs little guy, so they call the bigger guy.
Jeez  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:29 pm : link
Patrick Laine has 2 more thru 2 tonight (Jets lead TOR, 4-3 after 2) and now has 30 goals. He's 19.
And here's the news we didn't want  
pganut : 2/21/2017 9:31 pm : link
Zeeker and Clutterbuck both out for the game.

Clutter is again a lower body injury, so you have to think he rushed back too quick. Can't seem to catch a break with a healthy lineup.
Cal & Zeeker  
JayBinQueens : 2/21/2017 9:32 pm : link
still in the locker room
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