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PFT: Giants expect 2 -3 more years from Eli

Bold Ruler : Mod : 2/21/2017 2:11 pm
As Bob Glauber of Newsday said during a Monday visit to PFT Live, the Giants believe the 36-year-old Manning has two or three quality years left. Glauber also pointed out that the team already has begun to detect a decline in Eli’s performance.
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there's no doubt  
fkap : 2/21/2017 4:19 pm : link
he's getting antsy in the pocket (happy feet), and no one can blame him with the shitty backside protection.
whether that is the entire story is another question.
RE: i seriously doubt that anyone on the Giants  
Diver_Down : 2/21/2017 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13366818 gidiefor said:
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told Glauber they could detect a decline in Eli's play - or that there was a defined window for his remaining years of play


Glauber is full of shit. When asked in the video clip regarding our OL and who is the nastiest player, he mentioned Pugh (and then Richburg). His analysis is garbage. Also, in the clip, it showed a ranking of OL who has allowed the most QB pressures. At least Flowers can claim to be good at something. Of course, he leads the league at 128. Also, in the list was Reiff at 93, which some on BBI seem to be clamoring for. Of course, Reiff would be an improvement from Flowers so there is that.
There's no doubt shoddy protection affected his confidence  
JonC : 2/21/2017 4:24 pm : link
and his eyes often dropped to see the rush instead of searching through his progressions downfield.

But it's not the entire story.
Djm- my point is I don't really think Eli had a bad year nor needs to  
Jimmy Googs : 2/21/2017 4:25 pm : link
rebound.

I just think we are seeing signs of some deteriorating play from a guy that has played a lot of football.

I am not putting him in a coffin yet and I am sure better Oline play would help, but I all things being equal I would expect more continued deterioration in 2017. I also think the guy can lead a Super Bowl run again too...but you know, it better be soon...
After the Skins tag Cousins he'll be a free agent in 2018  
DC Gmen Fan : 2/21/2017 4:34 pm : link
If Eli declines and Cousins is looking good I wouldn't mind making a play for Kirk.
RE: RE: Brady  
Devon : 2/21/2017 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13366958 RetroJint said:
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has had an OL the keeps him upright and cofident of protection , with very little threat(except for 2.75 SBs) of eating much dirt since 2001, Wrs that get off the line quick, a miracle and secretive health regimen, and BB.
Eli has had 3-4 years of a good OL and the last 6 of the other 9-10 have been progressively worse with no confidence in it and running for his life thanks to ignoring,'projects', and possible high pick mistakes thanks to a poor OL evaluating FO, and in fairness teams jumping in front of us for Solder, Conklin, Lewan,.


Brady has had years-big years-when his offensive line was sub-par . Many people have suffered career setbacks because Eli wasn't as good as Brady or his brother. The expectations were such that only the absolute pinnacle was acceptable.


And certain people are now likely HoFers instead of ending up as classier Jeff Fishers in large part because of their tenure with him as their QB.

Regardless of whether he's in decline now or not, whether they should be bringing on another QB or not, the idea that Eli has hurt a significant number of careers is agenda-driven nonsense.
Seen this glimpse at Pittsburgh game  
micky : 2/21/2017 5:11 pm : link
Said it then and now others see as well.

It happens.

Just being prepared for transition and hope for best in that transition from eli to next future qb
2-3 years is what I'm expecting.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/21/2017 5:25 pm : link
Maybe 4 if everything breaks right; Eli stays healthy, OLine improves drastically, run game improves, we get another WR, an actualy NFL level competent TE, etc..
actualy = actual*  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/21/2017 5:26 pm : link
.
Am I wrong?  
Rover : 2/21/2017 5:28 pm : link
I don't see Eli's stats/production as being a product of declining physical skills.
From what I have seen, he just hasn't been as consistent nor made as good a decision with the ball, which I'd say is more of a mental thing/product of a sub-par Oline/supporting cast outside Odell.
Modern era QB's with the protections in place now...  
Torrag : 2/21/2017 5:39 pm : link
...may well play into their late 30's and 40's with increasing frequency. Sports medicine and the rules being what they are would anyone be surprised by this? I wouldn't. Eli's arm is strong, he just needs a little more help on that side of the ball. I expect JR to provide it.
No reason why Eli can't rebound  
JohnF : 2/21/2017 5:49 pm : link
Check out Kurt Warner's stats here. People thought Warner was in decline, and was washed up when he left NY. They were wrong.

Fixing the offensive line getting a real running game and having a real option opposite OBJ would do wonders. Eli may not be able to carry a team on his back like 2011, but he's certainly capable of putting up points in a decent offense.

Will he play past 40? Who knows...but he can win a SuperBowl in the next 3 years, if the Giants can make the right moves.
Matt Ryan...  
Racer : 2/21/2017 6:11 pm : link
...had 21 TDs and 16 picks in 2015, they filled two huge holes on their OL with Mack and Levitre, the numbers went to 38/7 and we had to listen to HOF talk all winter.

There were three holes on the 2016 line that was attempting to protect Eli.
2-3 sounds reasonable.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/21/2017 6:12 pm : link
The man is 36, not 26.
Its a shame that Football is a Team sport.  
shelovesnycsports : 2/21/2017 7:04 pm : link
Image Eli or every other QBs rating behind a Great Oline.
Because that is the only true way you can rate them.


RE: RE: i seriously doubt that anyone on the Giants  
Eman11 : 2/21/2017 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13366965 Diver_Down said:
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told Glauber they could detect a decline in Eli's play - or that there was a defined window for his remaining years of play



Glauber is full of shit. When asked in the video clip regarding our OL and who is the nastiest player, he mentioned Pugh (and then Richburg). His analysis is garbage. Also, in the clip, it showed a ranking of OL who has allowed the most QB pressures. At least Flowers can claim to be good at something. Of course, he leads the league at 128. Also, in the list was Reiff at 93, which some on BBI seem to be clamoring for. Of course, Reiff would be an improvement from Flowers so there is that.


128? Jeez, that's 8 a friggin game!

If Flowers isn't moved from LT with those numbers, I doubt Eli will make it 2-3 more years.
RE: RE: RE: i seriously doubt that anyone on the Giants  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2017 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13367156 Eman11 said:
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told Glauber they could detect a decline in Eli's play - or that there was a defined window for his remaining years of play



Glauber is full of shit. When asked in the video clip regarding our OL and who is the nastiest player, he mentioned Pugh (and then Richburg). His analysis is garbage. Also, in the clip, it showed a ranking of OL who has allowed the most QB pressures. At least Flowers can claim to be good at something. Of course, he leads the league at 128. Also, in the list was Reiff at 93, which some on BBI seem to be clamoring for. Of course, Reiff would be an improvement from Flowers so there is that.



128? Jeez, that's 8 a friggin game!

If Flowers isn't moved from LT with those numbers, I doubt Eli will make it 2-3 more years.


That's over the last 2 seasons, so 4 per game, which is still a lot.
Predictable  
HomerJones45 : 2/21/2017 7:52 pm : link
And that didn't take long. The team has to find some reason for the for-shit offense so "they've detected a decline in his [Eli's]performance."

This will be the storyline if the offense continues to flail around. The house organs will make sure Eli gets the blame. Ought to be a lot of fun when Archie gets pissed off and starts spouting to the newspapers.
RE: RE: RE: i seriously doubt that anyone on the Giants  
Diver_Down : 2/21/2017 8:07 pm : link
In comment 13367156 Eman11 said:
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In comment 13366818 gidiefor said:


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told Glauber they could detect a decline in Eli's play - or that there was a defined window for his remaining years of play



Glauber is full of shit. When asked in the video clip regarding our OL and who is the nastiest player, he mentioned Pugh (and then Richburg). His analysis is garbage. Also, in the clip, it showed a ranking of OL who has allowed the most QB pressures. At least Flowers can claim to be good at something. Of course, he leads the league at 128. Also, in the list was Reiff at 93, which some on BBI seem to be clamoring for. Of course, Reiff would be an improvement from Flowers so there is that.



128? Jeez, that's 8 a friggin game!

If Flowers isn't moved from LT with those numbers, I doubt Eli will make it 2-3 more years.


As PJ indicated, that is over 2 years. This year alone, Flowers and Hart combined for over 100 QB pressures. Regardless of what metric you want to use, our OL is a shitshow. But people want to blame Eli (who had one of the quickest releases at less than 3 seconds).
I hate when people say  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2017 8:13 pm : link
blame Eli. The offense struggled for a lot of reasons, including the OL struggles the issues rushing the ball, the lack of weapons at TE and WR even.

But Eli also seemed to contribute to the struggle.

No idea why it has to be one or the other. Eli had happy feet and seemed to sometimes sense pressure that wasn't there, he was inaccurate at times when he had time, and he made some poor decisions and the offense didn't have the depth to accommodate for the poor decisions this year.

RE: I hate when people say  
shelovesnycsports : 2/21/2017 8:32 pm : link
In comment 13367209 pjcas18 said:
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blame Eli. The offense struggled for a lot of reasons, including the OL struggles the issues rushing the ball, the lack of weapons at TE and WR even.

But Eli also seemed to contribute to the struggle.

No idea why it has to be one or the other. Eli had happy feet and seemed to sometimes sense pressure that wasn't there, he was inaccurate at times when he had time, and he made some poor decisions and the offense didn't have the depth to accommodate for the poor decisions this year.

Do you feel better when you bash Eli?

How much film have you looked at? Have you watched the all 22 film?
Team sport. Only a moron blames the QB for everything.
A Vet with Happy Feet? Do you even know what that means or have you been watching ESPN.
Inaccurate? Do you even know the pass routes?
RE: RE: I hate when people say  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13367234 shelovesnycsports said:
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blame Eli. The offense struggled for a lot of reasons, including the OL struggles the issues rushing the ball, the lack of weapons at TE and WR even.

But Eli also seemed to contribute to the struggle.

No idea why it has to be one or the other. Eli had happy feet and seemed to sometimes sense pressure that wasn't there, he was inaccurate at times when he had time, and he made some poor decisions and the offense didn't have the depth to accommodate for the poor decisions this year.



Do you feel better when you bash Eli?

How much film have you looked at? Have you watched the all 22 film?
Team sport. Only a moron blames the QB for everything.
A Vet with Happy Feet? Do you even know what that means or have you been watching ESPN.
Inaccurate? Do you even know the pass routes?


I don't even know why I bother replying to you. You don't seem to be able to read.

I said I don't "blame" Eli for the offense.
I said the offense struggled for a number of reasons.

Happy feet is when the QB is jittery in the pocket sensing pressure that isn't there. You don't need to be an expert to know what it is. If you don't know what the term means I don't know what to tell you.

Inaccurate is obvious on some plays. If you can't spot Eli missing an open receiver that's on you. I'm comfortable I can tell when Eli misses a receiver.

So, no I don't bash Eli, but it's absolutely mind boggling why some people get so offended when someone suggests Eli was part of the problem. Because he was.

What do we think  
BlueManCrew : 2/21/2017 8:47 pm : link
About Davis Webb? He has prototype size, was productive at cal and he appears to have the mental game down. Spends a ton of time in preparation each week. We might have to take him in the second but he would be ready when Eli retires if he has the physical skill set.
build  
spike : 2/21/2017 9:11 pm : link
a fuckin proper OL for Eli to let him play 5 more seasons
I have no idea why some are convinced Eli Manning could play  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/21/2017 9:34 pm : link
A bunch more years.

It is normal, expected, and perfectly acceptable for 36 year old QBs to demonstrate decline. To act as if it's not happening makes you sound strange.

He isn't Brady. He won't be around into his 40s. Players like that are huge exceptions to the norm.
2 more  
blueblood : 2/21/2017 10:31 pm : link
thats all I expect
Happy Feet is when a Quarterback  
shelovesnycsports : 2/21/2017 10:39 pm : link
does not get set up. before he throws the ball. He tries to run and abandons the play. The Mannings Archie Peyton and Eli have always moved there feet in the pocket its how they set up and throw. No one doubted Peyton when he was doing it. When Rothlesburger does it its extending the play. Its cheap way for a media guy to take a shot. But then again most people don't listen to the media and take everything they say as gospel.
RE: Happy Feet is when a Quarterback  
Cruzin : 2/21/2017 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13367383 shelovesnycsports said:
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does not get set up. before he throws the ball. He tries to run and abandons the play. The Mannings Archie Peyton and Eli have always moved there feet in the pocket its how they set up and throw. No one doubted Peyton when he was doing it. When Rothlesburger does it its extending the play. Its cheap way for a media guy to take a shot. But then again most people don't listen to the media and take everything they say as gospel.


Slow night in the OR?

She Hunter? She Simo? C'mon, it's the offseason, could be the thread of the month, who are you? You're not a chick, have you seen Tootsie lately? Gives us a hint, I'm a Barilko fan but it's obvious to me. I could be wrong though...
RE: RE: Happy Feet is when a Quarterback  
shelovesnycsports : 2/21/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13367388 Cruzin said:
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does not get set up. before he throws the ball. He tries to run and abandons the play. The Mannings Archie Peyton and Eli have always moved there feet in the pocket its how they set up and throw. No one doubted Peyton when he was doing it. When Rothlesburger does it its extending the play. Its cheap way for a media guy to take a shot. But then again most people don't listen to the media and take everything they say as gospel.



Slow night in the OR?

She Hunter? She Simo? C'mon, it's the offseason, could be the thread of the month, who are you? You're not a chick, have you seen Tootsie lately? Gives us a hint, I'm a Barilko fan but it's obvious to me. I could be wrong though...

I the ED actually. Two ODs a car accident and a attempted suicide right now. So normal night. Other trauma center is on diversion.

I am me no one else
My Dad played college and coached HS Football. Thats where I learned about the game. He was a huge Giants fan. It was our bond.
I'm in the ED  
shelovesnycsports : 2/21/2017 11:36 pm : link
Dammed auto correct.
She ED  
Cruzin : 2/21/2017 11:41 pm : link

You can't support both Eli and Mac. It's obvious Mac held Eli back this year.

State your position, your true identity and how a female is suffering from ED.

Unless of course you are a horse of course, I mean the famous Mster ED.
RE: She ED  
shelovesnycsports : 2/21/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13367417 Cruzin said:
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You can't support both Eli and Mac. It's obvious Mac held Eli back this year.

State your position, your true identity and how a female is suffering from ED.

Unless of course you are a horse of course, I mean the famous Mster ED.

ED stands for Emergency Department
Hitting the sauce tonight?
OR  
shelovesnycsports : 2/22/2017 12:04 am : link
Operating room = Surgery.
RE: OR  
Cruzin : 2/22/2017 12:49 am : link
In comment 13367424 shelovesnycsports said:
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Operating room = Surgery.


You're pretentending to be a woman with erectile dysfunction posting on BBI while working in the OR and I'm hitting the sauce?

white sauce on the shrimp and veges from Chinese takeout, much better than the brown sauce on the pork and snow peas.

Go bother someone that supports your man crush on Mac.
Studying film, reading stats....  
grizz299 : 2/22/2017 5:34 am : link
not sure the answer's there.
But consider: the offence should have been better. Flowers had a year's experience and was injury free. We effectively traded the dysfunctional wrong route running Randall for the functional Shepard. Tye should have been better going into his second year. In 2016 we were among the top leaders, in 2017 we were near dead last and only a dominant defense produced the 11 wins.
When the talent level goes up and the production goes down it's reasonable to assume one (or both) of two things: The coaching declined, or the QB declined.
The consensus among most football people in the know is that Ben Mc is a good coach respected by both management and the players, ergo .......!!!!
RE: RE: i seriously doubt that anyone on the Giants  
HomerJones45 : 2/22/2017 6:18 am : link
In comment 13366833 Milton said:
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told Glauber they could detect a decline in Eli's play - or that there was a defined window for his remaining years of play

+1
yeah, he just cut it out of whole cloth that the team "noticed" a decline in his play. Don't be so naive.
RE: pj  
HomerJones45 : 2/22/2017 6:22 am : link
In comment 13366858 gidiefor said:
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my comments have nothing to do with whether Eli is in decline or what his remaining years of play are

I just question how Glauber can say that the Giants are saying this to him

even if it's true that Eli is declining and that they think he only has 2-3 years left -- on what plane of reality are they going to tell this to Bob Glauber

that -- in itself makes the story in the op not believable
Judge, the organization fed him that line. Glauber doesnt print that otherwisw. Now why would they do that?
This shouldn't be news really  
Joey in VA : 2/22/2017 7:26 am : link
He had a handful of games and drives where he looked good but his play was incredibly spotty all year long. His biggest plays were slants to Odell and by and large it appeared that McAdoo didn't hang him out to dry by asking him to do to much. That is absolutely in part to having a terrible running game and shaky OL coupled with a defense that was able to keep scores low. He was and always will be plagued by amazingly bad decision making at times, those plays where you just shake your head and wonder how a veteran QB can hiccup so badly in spots.

He's always been under the radar from an athletic standpoint and has had the arm strength to make some great downfield tosses but that has dissipated noticeably. He is still a streaky QB, prone to bad streaks and to stretches where he's in total command but that command comes from where all football success comes from, and that's an overall team effort. He needs time in the pocket, he needs a running game that is at least respectable and he needs edge protection that isn't as unreliable as a...(snarky political reference)..thing that's unreliable. Without those things he will look worse as any QB would but you have to look at his play in a vacuum to be really honest. Put down the "He won 2 super bowls" pom poms for a second and watch his play, it hasn't been as good period. There are voluminous reasons for it, hopefully they will be addressed this offseason but there is no doubt that he's not able to do this as effectively as he did a few short years ago.

Peyton won a SB with a crushing defense and solid rotation at RB and really had to very little beside cough up the game. Eli can do that and I believe to a higher degree because he's physically better than where Peyton was when he won that ring. Does he however have the mental makeup to realize his limitations and stick to what he does well or will he try to throw himself out of situations like he did in both of his SB triumphs? His game has to come back in a little bit and I think the coaches saw it last year and acted accordingly. He's not done, but he's inching closer to it and that's what fans need to accept and stop fighting the obvious results on the field.
RE: This can't be right  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/22/2017 7:52 am : link
In comment 13366809 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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BBI told me that he would easily play until he's 40, and thusly the Giants don't need to think about the future.


Hi Mr Nassib. You son sucks and isn't the answer. Do u have another one we need to draft and now you are back?

Funny. The OC regressed  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/22/2017 7:56 am : link
And I would bet most of the people crapping on Eli are the same ones screaming 11 wins every time.

McAdoo's 11 wins is coach of the year and don't question anything he did but Eli's 11 wins mean nothing. Yeah. Watch GB again. Eli isn't 32 anymore. But he's healthy. Never misses a snap. And his OL has been dog shit for 4 years.

I'm sure he isn't quite the same player he was at 30 but anyone they draft or bring in isn't going to be any better inthe next 2-3 years w this OL. Put the NFL's new darling Dak on this team and it's 5-11.
Joey  
JonC : 2/22/2017 8:17 am : link
well done.
The Eli (Eli/Coughlin) era has been very good to us fans  
exiled : 2/22/2017 10:04 am : link
If he retires at 38 or 39, so be it.

That said, rooting for a guy like Eli (the Walter Payton Award winner) is one of the things that keeps me watching football. The trend towards sloppy, high-offense, and often uncompetitive games makes them almost unwatchable. That combined with the injuries/concussions.

Personally, I'm not sure I'll be as invested in football once Eli is gone.
How does this upset people?  
Sonic Youth : 2/22/2017 11:02 am : link
He's 36. People have been saying 4-5 years for 6 years. This is what we expected.

He's the iron man, but not Superman.

Eli is going to go down as arguably the all time greatest NYG. Can we just enjoy the ride from here on out? He is obviously going to decline at some point, and it *may* have already started, but that doesn't mean he isn't good, or that we can't win another SB with him.

LET'S MAKE HIM THREE-LI!
it's simple  
djm : 2/22/2017 11:20 am : link
we all agree that the O needs some work. We all agree that the WRs, RBs, TEs and OL need upgrading. PRobably one player for each spot, am I right?

Isn't it fair to expect the QB to play better if even 2-4 sore spots see a dramatic upgrade?

Did JPP look like a better player in 2016 than the one from 2015? Leaving injuries and fresh legs aside, JPP had an easier go at things in 2016. Why? BEcause he had three great upgrades alongside him. In 2015 JPP was playing next to hot garbage all year long. He had only 1 sack in 9 games and likely less hurries than 2016 where he was on pace for 9-10 sacks.

It's a team game. Eli needs help. It's that simple. The Giants even admitted as much as we all can see it. Eli can't play better in 2017? Actually, logic would say he will play better in 2017.
RE: This shouldn't be news really  
shelovesnycsports : 2/22/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13367481 Joey in VA said:
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He had a handful of games and drives where he looked good but his play was incredibly spotty all year long. His biggest plays were slants to Odell and by and large it appeared that McAdoo didn't hang him out to dry by asking him to do to much. That is absolutely in part to having a terrible running game and shaky OL coupled with a defense that was able to keep scores low. He was and always will be plagued by amazingly bad decision making at times, those plays where you just shake your head and wonder how a veteran QB can hiccup so badly in spots.

He's always been under the radar from an athletic standpoint and has had the arm strength to make some great downfield tosses but that has dissipated noticeably. He is still a streaky QB, prone to bad streaks and to stretches where he's in total command but that command comes from where all football success comes from, and that's an overall team effort. He needs time in the pocket, he needs a running game that is at least respectable and he needs edge protection that isn't as unreliable as a...(snarky political reference)..thing that's unreliable. Without those things he will look worse as any QB would but you have to look at his play in a vacuum to be really honest. Put down the "He won 2 super bowls" pom poms for a second and watch his play, it hasn't been as good period. There are voluminous reasons for it, hopefully they will be addressed this offseason but there is no doubt that he's not able to do this as effectively as he did a few short years ago.

Peyton won a SB with a crushing defense and solid rotation at RB and really had to very little beside cough up the game. Eli can do that and I believe to a higher degree because he's physically better than where Peyton was when he won that ring. Does he however have the mental makeup to realize his limitations and stick to what he does well or will he try to throw himself out of situations like he did in both of his SB triumphs? His game has to come back in a little bit and I think the coaches saw it last year and acted accordingly. He's not done, but he's inching closer to it and that's what fans need to accept and stop fighting the obvious results on the field.

You are one of the best Football posters in here..

But you can not watch last years games and not ask yourself ..
Was Eli playing with an injury? Look at the first 2 games and 1/2 of the Skins game. He is throwing it all over the field. Then watch the next two games. Minn and GB and you can see a marked difference in his play. Think about the front office scrambling for a QB? Red flags everywhere and no QB who could come off the bench. Carrying 3 QBs all season? When is the last time the Giants did that?

Carrying 3 QBs all season.
RE: build  
NNJ Tom : 2/22/2017 11:50 am : link
In comment 13367285 spike said:
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a fuckin proper OL for Eli to let him play 5 more seasons


This.
Been closely watching this guy play for 13 years now  
kinard : 2/22/2017 2:32 pm : link
... have to tell you, I haven't seen much of a perceptible difference between the 2016 Eli and, for example, the 2006 Eli.

I know I'm supposed to be seeing a decline....but there's nothing too noticeable to me.

He never really had any foot speed to begin with...so there is nothing there to lose. His offensive line is shaky, he has no tight end to throw to or even a running back to catch passes out of the backfield. Hard to look good in that offense. The TD vs. INTs stat just doesn't mean a lot to me (the Matt Ryan post earlier was very instructional).

The guy stays in phenomenal shape and has avoided major injury. The one thing I have learned is that counting him out would be a catastrophic mistake but I guess some people have to learn the hard way.....

Some cute posts in this thread  
mako J : 2/22/2017 4:23 pm : link
Give him a pocket, a 3rd option that can make plays, and a decent run game and he remains a QB no one wants to face in January and February.

Leading 6 game winning drives with a horribly predictable offense with 1 threat and a rookie slot guy as your only playmakers is not regression.

Missing deep throws, rushed mechanics and decision making when you know your tackles are weaknesses....not regression.

Attempted smokescreen to be coupled with visits and false hype about a QB in round 1?
Agree that PFT is likely stretching here  
MetsAreBack : 2/22/2017 4:49 pm : link
but Reese brought this upon himself with the "back nine" unsolicited nonsense.
she loves  
fkap : 2/22/2017 4:52 pm : link
a lot of people have speculated that Eli had an injury early on affecting his play.

I think there's an element of truth to that.

the 3 QB thing, though, IMO is because of what I suspect was an undisclosed injury to Nassib. They weren't holding on to a scrub like Johnson because Eli might not be available. It didn't make sense to keep him until 'suddenly' Nassib was IRed for an injury no one knew he had.
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