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NFT: Knicks Chat: Will they deal Rose?

DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 8:59 am
- Multiple teams in on Deron Williams (who would seemingly be a similar group with interest in Rose), Utah is one such team in on Deron reportedly.

-Kobe/Harden's agent Rob Pelinka is the new GM of the Lakers

-Boston still talking to "everyone" including the Sixers regarding Okafor per Stein

-Knicks "aggressively" looking to deal Rose per Woj
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Knicks one of a few teams in on Patrick Beverly, according to Stein.  
bceagle05 : 2/22/2017 1:31 pm : link
Let's hope he goes elsewhere. Sell, sell, sell, you fucking morons.
I think it's a safe bet  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 1:31 pm : link
to assume Noah will be a Knick at least up until his contract becomes an expiring. Which could very will be a good thing in 2 years, who knows.
RE: Knicks one of a few teams in on Patrick Beverly, according to Stein.  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13368002 bceagle05 said:
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Let's hope he goes elsewhere. Sell, sell, sell, you fucking morons.


...what? would it be Rose for Beverly? How would it make sense to bring in rubio and then beverley? I would think Lee fits perfectly into what they are looking for, but they'd need to give more than beverley and Mcdaniels IMo
Al Iannazzone  
Canton : 2/22/2017 1:37 pm : link
"Melo ran some sprints after the practice and sat on a bench just looking around the gym. Maybe he was wondering if this was last time here."
Or praying it was...  
bceagle05 : 2/22/2017 1:38 pm : link
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I really doubt  
kash94 : 2/22/2017 1:42 pm : link
Noah is traded at least for the next two years. The only hope is that the salary cap goes up a lot which would dilute his cap hit.

Rose seems like he'll be gone. Hoping Knicks get a bit more than just Rubio even if its a 2nd or protected first.

Re: Beverly perhaps a McDaniels + Beverly + a 2nd rounder for Courtney Lee could work? Lee is a great fit for them
I think  
kash94 : 2/22/2017 1:43 pm : link
Beverly is fine. Cheap deal, can shoot, and defend.
RE: I really doubt  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13368016 kash94 said:
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Noah is traded at least for the next two years. The only hope is that the salary cap goes up a lot which would dilute his cap hit.

Rose seems like he'll be gone. Hoping Knicks get a bit more than just Rubio even if its a 2nd or protected first.

Re: Beverly perhaps a McDaniels + Beverly + a 2nd rounder for Courtney Lee could work? Lee is a great fit for them


It just makes little sense as to why they'd swap Beverley for Lee. Beverley is a top PG defender, do you now want Lee to chase PGs? He's similar as a 3 point shooter and worlds better as a playmaker and rebounder. By all accounts Beverley is a better player than Lee. Makes no sense as to why Houston would do this. That's not even factoring he's making less than half what Lee is making.
Beverley is also 3 years younger  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 1:48 pm : link
than Lee. Half the cost, similar 3 point shooter, better defender, better rebounder, better passer...wtf??
Houston not looking to deal  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 1:56 pm : link
Beverley. Would be interested in KJ if they're looking to just dump him.
K-Mart  
DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 1:58 pm : link
shitting on Phil/Noah was pretty funny. He sounded like a fan saying Noah sucks and not just a rival.
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DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 2:03 pm : link
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Report: Pacers testing market on Paul George, could rebuild around Myles Turner
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Deej : 2/22/2017 2:09 pm : link
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Report: Pacers testing market on Paul George, could rebuild around Myles Turner


If true I suspect Larry learned that without futures (great rookies/picks), the talent equation was really zero sum. He could get George more help, but not without trading off Teague or Turner in the process.

NBA increasingly feels like you either need to draw the inside straight card of multiple high level talents or else you're spinning your wheels trying to get better. It has to be disheartening the KD, Russ, Ibaka and friends couldnt even score a title.
Ive watched Teague so many times this year.  
dep026 : 2/22/2017 2:11 pm : link
definitely on pace for worst contract this offseason. He has never, ever made a team better than average.
Is Magic going to pry George from Bird?  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 2:15 pm : link
Russell, Randle and Zubac for PG13?
That should top Ainge's offer  
bceagle05 : 2/22/2017 2:18 pm : link
of Jerebko and a second rounder.
Interesting read on the PG situation in Minnesota  
Canton : 2/22/2017 2:20 pm : link
Mentions Thibs willingness to part with Rubio and wanting Rose
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RE: Interesting read on the PG situation in Minnesota  
EricNY33 : 2/22/2017 2:22 pm : link
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Mentions Thibs willingness to part with Rubio and wanting Rose Link - ( New Window )


That's because what everyone doesn't know is Thibs was the 4th guy in the gangbang Rose was accused of rape in.
In other news  
Canton : 2/22/2017 2:24 pm : link
The NY Knicks have assigned Maurice Ndour and Marshall Plumlee to the @wcknicks
How  
DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 2:24 pm : link
about they throw in Jones then? Thanks.
Well this clears everything up...  
bceagle05 : 2/22/2017 2:31 pm : link
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Carmelo on Knicks management: "Those guys understand and know how I'm feeling, what's on my mind, and what I would like to see happen."
RE: That should top Ainge's offer  
Jon in NYC : 2/22/2017 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13368064 bceagle05 said:
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of Jerebko and a second rounder.


I lol'd
RE: Well this clears everything up...  
EricNY33 : 2/22/2017 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13368089 bceagle05 said:
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Which is code for I don't wanna be traded
knicks should get a big trade exception  
nygiants16 : 2/22/2017 2:41 pm : link
if this deal goes through
RE: knicks should get a big trade exception  
EricNY33 : 2/22/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13368103 nygiants16 said:
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if this deal goes through


The Rose trade, right?
RE: Knicks one of a few teams in on Patrick Beverly, according to Stein.  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2017 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13368002 bceagle05 said:
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Let's hope he goes elsewhere. Sell, sell, sell, you fucking morons.


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DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 2:50 pm : link
Mudiay is now the 3rd PG? KOQ for Mudiay, do it up. #Knicks
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nygiants16 : 2/22/2017 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13368105 EricNY33 said:
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if this deal goes through



The Rose trade, right?


yes, if it is rose for rubio straight up it will be around 7 or 8 million
Can we at least get Shabazz in the deal  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 3:03 pm : link
Don't even like him that much, but give me some excuse to get over-hyped about ANY young player.
RE: Can we at least get Shabazz in the deal  
DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13368125 giantsfan44ab said:
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Don't even like him that much, but give me some excuse to get over-hyped about ANY young player.


Sorry boss, you are getting Lance Stephenson and liking it!
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DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 3:06 pm : link
He has not been good but keep an eye on this guy... Knicks previously tried acquiring his rights via trade
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RE: That should top Ainge's offer  
Deej : 2/22/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13368064 bceagle05 said:
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of Jerebko and a second rounder.


What are the protections on the 2?
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DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 3:10 pm : link
They own the rights to this guy too who sounds at least mildly interesting
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giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13368129 DanMetroMan said:
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He has not been good but keep an eye on this guy... Knicks previously tried acquiring his rights via trade Link - ( New Window )


Sounds like Kuz in PF form.
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DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13368142 giantsfan44ab said:
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He has not been good but keep an eye on this guy... Knicks previously tried acquiring his rights via trade Link - ( New Window )



Sounds like Kuz in PF form.


Supposedly the deal was pretty close and then fell apart. Presumably our Euro scouts liked him so I would think he'd be on the radar.
Mudiay take from the Denver Post  
Deej : 2/22/2017 3:21 pm : link
Trade Mudiay because Murray is a rising star. Evidence for that is Murray's MVP in the Rising Star Challenge (not mentioned: last year Mudiay dropped 30-10 and would have won MVP if his team had won).

Ok. What for? Only in a blockbuster. What blockbuster? Only one mentioned is several permutations of Butler to DEN, all of which the author dismisses from CHI's POV.

Man, sports columnist is a great gig.
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Greg, funny pic ~ an hour ago  
ColHowPepper : 2/22/2017 3:33 pm : link
Was that a Black Monday or Black Friday? You're suggesting this will be Black Wednesday? lol
Celtics  
DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 3:42 pm : link
and Lakers reportedly vying for Paul George
Larry better not set up Ainge  
Deej : 2/22/2017 3:50 pm : link
just because of the Boston connection. But I'd rather have the BK pics than the Lakers assets. Turner, Randle and Ingram/Russell aint getting you anywhere.
I hate the Celtics  
bceagle05 : 2/22/2017 3:52 pm : link
but I do like the idea of Lebron flipping out over this in Cleveland. I wish the Celtics would make their move already - whatever it is - so there's sufficient time for some aftershocks.
RE: Mudiay take from the Denver Post  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13368157 Deej said:
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Trade Mudiay because Murray is a rising star. Evidence for that is Murray's MVP in the Rising Star Challenge (not mentioned: last year Mudiay dropped 30-10 and would have won MVP if his team had won).

Ok. What for? Only in a blockbuster. What blockbuster? Only one mentioned is several permutations of Butler to DEN, all of which the author dismisses from CHI's POV.

Man, sports columnist is a great gig. Link - ( New Window )


Lol what? I stopped reading before any Jimmy butler talk even came up. I agree with the premise of starting Murray at PG but he's acting like Murray has been a marksman from deep and harris is struggling with his shot.

And you only want to trade Mudiay in a blockbuster so Denver doesn't regret giving up on his potential but you also want the PG to be benched in favor of a 2 guard in the starting lineup. Makes sense.
RE: Larry better not set up Ainge  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13368206 Deej said:
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just because of the Boston connection. But I'd rather have the BK pics than the Lakers assets. Turner, Randle and Ingram/Russell aint getting you anywhere.


Well, McHale already did it once, so what's one more time?
RE: Larry better not set up Ainge  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13368206 Deej said:
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just because of the Boston connection. But I'd rather have the BK pics than the Lakers assets. Turner, Randle and Ingram/Russell aint getting you anywhere.


If the Nets play is in pick, sure. But Randle would thrive playing with a center who spaces the floor like Turner (just like he did at the beginning of this season) and Russell still has good 2 guard potential. Don't think that would be the worst trade given the fact it looks like George wants to leave. Can't help much for Indy's leverage.
Bojan to the wizards  
hitdog42 : 2/22/2017 3:58 pm : link
being reported--likely for a first i assume--- good for nets.
Bogdonavic to the Wizards  
giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 3:58 pm : link
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Nets take back Nicholson's bad $7mm x 3 yearscontract  
Deej : 2/22/2017 4:06 pm : link
so the value is not just for Bog
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DanMetroMan : 2/22/2017 4:07 pm : link
The Knicks are asking for a first-round pick in exchange for Kyle O'Quinn, reports Frank Isola of the NY Daily News.
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Deej : 2/22/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13368237 DanMetroMan said:
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The Knicks are asking for a first-round pick in exchange for Kyle O'Quinn, reports Frank Isola of the NY Daily News.


As they should be. He's better than Bodganovic.
Been in meetings most of the day.  
Carl in CT : 2/22/2017 4:11 pm : link
So it looks like 23 hours to go and nothing has happened. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks
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giantsfan44ab : 2/22/2017 4:16 pm : link
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The Knicks are asking for a first-round pick in exchange for Kyle O'Quinn, reports Frank Isola of the NY Daily News.



As they should be. He's better than Bodganovic.


The issue is that Bogdonavic is a guard and KOQ is a 4/5. Idk why Boston doesn't give a throw away euro and a late first but I don't think there's much of a market for bigs. Okafor is the only other one that's being discussed but the rumors that are floating around and all the deals so far after Boogie are for wing players.
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