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The Guess JPP's Contract Thread... (No, Its Not Official)

est1986 : 2/22/2017 11:28 am
I know its not official 'BUT IF' the Giants re-sign JPP long term.. Predict the years, salary, guaranteed money. Lets see who gets it right.

PREDICTIONS ONLY!!!

I'll Start...
5 Years ; $70 Million  
est1986 : 2/22/2017 11:29 am : link
$30 Million Guaranteed.
4 years. 62 million  
jayg5 : 2/22/2017 11:32 am : link
36/ guaranteed
I was just thinking of making one of these  
adamg : 2/22/2017 11:35 am : link
I figured it might get lost in the sea of JPP...

Anyway, my guesstimate:

5 years 90 mill, 42.5 guaranteed

The market usually goes up over the years, guys. Vernon pulled 5/85/52.5

JPP didn't earn a smaller contract than OV.
4/60  
mrvax : 2/22/2017 11:36 am : link
and $30M guaranteed.
...  
ajr2456 : 2/22/2017 11:37 am : link
4 years, $59 mil. $35 guaranteed.
Adam  
jayg5 : 2/22/2017 11:38 am : link
Market may go up over the years but I'd think if Giants are able to sign JPP before free agency begins he'd be taken a discount to what he can receive on open market.
4 years / $65 mil  
NNJ Tom : 2/22/2017 11:39 am : link
35 mil guaranteed. Option for 5th year at $18 mil.
I'll say,  
Keith : 2/22/2017 11:40 am : link
4/68 with 42 guaranteed
6 years $95m  
English Alaister : 2/22/2017 11:41 am : link
SB: 20m (possibly split)

Yr1: 1m (Guaranteed)
Yr2: 7m (Guaranteed)
Yr3: 12m (Guaranteed 1st March 2018)
Yr4: 16m
Yr5: 19m
Yr6: 19m

1m of workout bonuses.

I think they do something like this to a) give JPP a huge number for the media and b) give the Giants an out as a 2yr $28m contract in a disaster and a 3yr $40m deal as the likely terms before renegotiation becomes a probability.
5 years  
spike : 2/22/2017 11:45 am : link
80 mil
I think the contract will be very similar to Vernon,  
Keith : 2/22/2017 12:11 pm : link
maybe they negotiate 4 years instead of 5 because he's a year and a half older and has an injury history. The money should be about the same, IMO.
90% of Vernon's contract; 5 years  
ij_reilly : 2/22/2017 12:28 pm : link
It will be structured identical to the Vernon contract.

Discount JPP by 10% due to age and injury history.

5 years, $76,500,000
$36,450,000 initially guaranteed
$47,250,000 guaranteed

Cap hit:
2017 11,700,000
2018 14,400,000
2019 15,300,000
2020 17,550,000
2021 17,550,000

Dead money:
2017 36,675,000
2018 24,975,000
2019 10,800,000
2020 7,200,000
2021 3,600,000

Vernon's Contract - ( New Window )
He'll get a 5 year deal  
BillT : 2/22/2017 12:32 pm : link
Because it's better for the team for the amortization of the signing bonuses. 79m. (16/per)?
Five Years $72 Million  
johnnyb : 2/22/2017 1:52 pm : link
$42 Million Guaranteed. There will be competition and I do not envision a home town discount.
5/75  
speedywheels : 2/22/2017 2:07 pm : link
40 guaranteed
4 years 50 mil 30 guaranteed  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/22/2017 2:14 pm : link
.
The devil will be in the details  
Milton : 2/22/2017 2:18 pm : link
My guess is 5 years (for up to) $85M (with incentives and escalators built into it). The real numbers will be 3 years $45M with $30M guaranteed.
5 years 75 million  
Big Rick in FL : 2/22/2017 3:38 pm : link
With 40 million guaranteed. The 5 years is only to spread the cap hit out which should mean he'd have a lower cap number earlier in his contract.
I don't think  
StingerProf : 2/22/2017 3:41 pm : link
JPP forgoes FA to give the Giants a deal of basically 3 years $45 million. That is way to team friendly. He can easily get more stability elsewhere.
RE: I don't think  
Milton : 2/22/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13368193 StingerProf said:
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JPP forgoes FA to give the Giants a deal of basically 3 years $45 million. That is way to team friendly. He can easily get more stability elsewhere.
Not if he knows the team will tag him for $17M before they let him test the market. Then it comes down to a choice between one year for $17M or 3 years for $45M (with roughly $30M guaranteed).
JPP  
stretch234 : 2/22/2017 3:49 pm : link
4-64

24M signing bonus

44M guaranteed

You get NFL years 28, 29, 30 & 31.
Years 4 and 5 Dead Money seems really important  
ij_reilly : 2/22/2017 3:51 pm : link
How to get JPP the guaranteed money that can be reasonably expected to come his way in free agency while, at the same time, limiting the dead money hit in Years 4 and 5, should it become necessary to cut him due to performance/injuries?

The numbers I posted earlier (90% of Vernon money) include dead money of $7.2 million in Year 4 and $3.6 million in Year 5.

I particularly don't like that $7.2 million in Year 4 dead money.

No wonder NFL teams have a "cap-ologist".

RE: Years 4 and 5 Dead Money seems really important  
Milton : 2/22/2017 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13368207 ij_reilly said:
Quote:
How to get JPP the guaranteed money that can be reasonably expected to come his way in free agency while, at the same time, limiting the dead money hit in Years 4 and 5, should it become necessary to cut him due to performance/injuries?

The numbers I posted earlier (90% of Vernon money) include dead money of $7.2 million in Year 4 and $3.6 million in Year 5.

I particularly don't like that $7.2 million in Year 4 dead money.

No wonder NFL teams have a "cap-ologist".
If he gives the team three good years on a five year contract, the dead money won't be a significant issue. The key is getting three years out of him that were worth the money he was paid over that time period.
RE: Five Years $72 Million  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/22/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13368030 johnnyb said:
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$42 Million Guaranteed. There will be competition and I do not envision a home town discount.

Considering OV's contract and not at all factoring for YOY inflation, $72M with $42M guaranteed would be a decrease of 15% and 20% respectively from OV. How is that not a hometown discount?
from an earlier thread  
jlukes : 2/22/2017 4:59 pm : link
5 years, $80 Million
$50 Million Guaranteed
$22 Million Signing bonus

$8 million 1st year salary guaranteed ($12.4M cap hit)
$9 million 2nd year salary guaranteed ($13.4M cap hit)
$11 million 3rd year salary guaranteed ($15.4M cap hit)

$14 million 4th year salary, becomes fully guaranteed if on team on March 1st of that year ($18.4M Cap hit)
$16 million 5th year salary, becomes fully guaranteed if on team on March 1st of that year ($21.4M cap hit)

Team would save $3.6 million by cutting him after year 3
Team would save $11.6 million by cutting him after year 4
I've said for weeks it will be...  
Torrag : 2/22/2017 5:08 pm : link
...4/$60M.
RE: RE: I don't think  
StingerProf : 2/22/2017 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13368198 Milton said:
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In comment 13368193 StingerProf said:


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Not if he knows the team will tag him for $17M before they let him test the market. Then it comes down to a choice between one year for $17M or 3 years for $45M (with roughly $30M guaranteed).


I would take 17 for 1 year if that's my option. 3 years for 45 isn't enough. It will only be around 25 guaranteed. So JPP won't bet on himself 1 more year over 8 million? He can make 17 million this season (doesn't have to show up from training camp and preseason) and if he comes out of this year healthy he will get a contract that will far exceed the 2 years 30 million that would be remaining. I can't see him signing for so little. He's a great DE.
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